PsychoPsyops 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 5:22
Windows 10 HDR for Games
Hello,

I keep hearing there are numerous ways games turn-on and use HDR in Windows 10. When I enable HDR in Windows, I worry about burn-in, because some games have a static UI that can cause burn-in. However, when I disable HDR in Windows, I would have to enable this setting before I play a game that supports it each and every time.

My question is, if a game supports HDR, is it possible for the game to auto-enable the setting so that HDR is only used when needed? Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance...
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crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 5:26 
Burn in should only be a worry if you leave said static imagery like that for any length of time. Namely hours at a time.

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PsychoPsyops 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 5:53 
引用自 crunchyfrog
Burn in should only be a worry if you leave said static imagery like that for any length of time. Namely hours at a time.

I'm aware of this. However, the fact of the matter is I play games for hours at a time. I'd imagine web browsers are at risk when browsing, reading or working on the desktop, also for hours at a time. This, along with the fact that non-HDR games sometimes glitch out when I have HDR enabled, make it very cumbersome to have to manually disable HDR when I'm not using it. Surely there has to be a better way...
MancSoulja 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 7:18 
引用自 Aerials
引用自 crunchyfrog
Burn in should only be a worry if you leave said static imagery like that for any length of time. Namely hours at a time.

I'm aware of this. However, the fact of the matter is I play games for hours at a time. I'd imagine web browsers are at risk when browsing, reading or working on the desktop, also for hours at a time. This, along with the fact that non-HDR games sometimes glitch out when I have HDR enabled, make it very cumbersome to have to manually disable HDR when I'm not using it. Surely there has to be a better way...

You didn't even mention what kind of display you're using?

If it's particularly susceptible to burn in like OLED, the manufacturer uses adds measures to negate it, like shifting static pixels every few minutes.

Anyway, answer to your question is it depends on the game, some games let you enable HDR when it isn't enabled in display settings and others don't.
最后由 MancSoulja 编辑于; 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 7:20
PsychoPsyops 2020 年 8 月 31 日 下午 7:45 
引用自 MancSoulja
引用自 Aerials

I'm aware of this. However, the fact of the matter is I play games for hours at a time. I'd imagine web browsers are at risk when browsing, reading or working on the desktop, also for hours at a time. This, along with the fact that non-HDR games sometimes glitch out when I have HDR enabled, make it very cumbersome to have to manually disable HDR when I'm not using it. Surely there has to be a better way...

You didn't even mention what kind of display you're using?

If it's particularly susceptible to burn in like OLED, the manufacturer uses adds measures to negate it, like shifting static pixels every few minutes.

Anyway, answer to your question is it depends on the game, some games let you enable HDR when it isn't enabled in display settings and others don't.


Sorry. I am using an LG OLED TV. It does have measures such as pixel shift as you said, but it isn't enough. I have dialogue UI that is still showing on the screen 2 days after not playing the game, even after attempting to refresh the pixels with another measure.
crunchyfrog 2020 年 9 月 1 日 上午 1:04 
引用自 Aerials
引用自 crunchyfrog
Burn in should only be a worry if you leave said static imagery like that for any length of time. Namely hours at a time.

I'm aware of this. However, the fact of the matter is I play games for hours at a time. I'd imagine web browsers are at risk when browsing, reading or working on the desktop, also for hours at a time. This, along with the fact that non-HDR games sometimes glitch out when I have HDR enabled, make it very cumbersome to have to manually disable HDR when I'm not using it. Surely there has to be a better way...

That's a fair point. I just wanted to be sure you were aware.

We tend to get a lot of posts on here with people worrying about silly things, or at least things to a silly degree, so it always makes sense to not assume.

It really boils down to what MancSoulja said though. It depends on your system and it's inbuilt features plus the individual game.

The best thing I can recommend - speaking as someone who tinkers with amateur electronics repair - is to read spec sheets or workshop manuals (if you can find them). General owner's manuals these days tend to be pretty useless, so you may well need to hunt for things like the workshop manual to get the real meat of the data. It should tell you what methods are employed and how those methods operate. Then you can work around it.

Also, a similar thing goes for the games themselves. You're going to have to dig through the publisher or devs specs, forums, or even message them directly to get any real sort of usable answer.

I know this sounds like a pain, becuase it is, but it's really the only way you're going to get definitive usable answers.
MancSoulja 2020 年 9 月 1 日 上午 1:23 
引用自 Aerials
引用自 MancSoulja

You didn't even mention what kind of display you're using?

If it's particularly susceptible to burn in like OLED, the manufacturer uses adds measures to negate it, like shifting static pixels every few minutes.

Anyway, answer to your question is it depends on the game, some games let you enable HDR when it isn't enabled in display settings and others don't.


Sorry. I am using an LG OLED TV. It does have measures such as pixel shift as you said, but it isn't enough. I have dialogue UI that is still showing on the screen 2 days after not playing the game, even after attempting to refresh the pixels with another measure.

That sucks man, OLED probably isn't the best panel type for PC gaming for that reason, especially with UI elements usually being uniform colours, you shift everything 1px to the left or right an 50% of the pixels end up staying the same colour.

If you enable HDR through Windows, then disable it via your TV's settings. HDR should automatically enable in windows when you switch it on via your TV's settings.

Maybe that could work as a shortcut to enable/disable HDR without messing about with Windows settings every 5 minutes.

But like I said, there's quite a few games where you can enable HDR in-game without it being enabled in Windows display settings.
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PsychoPsyops 2020 年 9 月 1 日 上午 6:13 
引用自 MancSoulja
引用自 Aerials


Sorry. I am using an LG OLED TV. It does have measures such as pixel shift as you said, but it isn't enough. I have dialogue UI that is still showing on the screen 2 days after not playing the game, even after attempting to refresh the pixels with another measure.

That sucks man, OLED probably isn't the best panel type for PC gaming for that reason, especially with UI elements usually being uniform colours, you shift everything 1px to the left or right an 50% of the pixels end up staying the same colour.

If you enable HDR through Windows, then disable it via your TV's settings. HDR should automatically enable in windows when you switch it on via your TV's settings.

Maybe that could work as a shortcut to enable/disable HDR without messing about with Windows settings every 5 minutes.

But like I said, there's quite a few games where you can enable HDR in-game without it being enabled in Windows display settings.

I get it. Thanks both Crunchy and Manc. My TV settings lock HDR to on when the Windows setting is on. So I think I am just going to lower the OLED brightness when I am not playing HDR content.
crunchyfrog 2020 年 9 月 1 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 Aerials
引用自 MancSoulja

That sucks man, OLED probably isn't the best panel type for PC gaming for that reason, especially with UI elements usually being uniform colours, you shift everything 1px to the left or right an 50% of the pixels end up staying the same colour.

If you enable HDR through Windows, then disable it via your TV's settings. HDR should automatically enable in windows when you switch it on via your TV's settings.

Maybe that could work as a shortcut to enable/disable HDR without messing about with Windows settings every 5 minutes.

But like I said, there's quite a few games where you can enable HDR in-game without it being enabled in Windows display settings.

I get it. Thanks both Crunchy and Manc. My TV settings lock HDR to on when the Windows setting is on. So I think I am just going to lower the OLED brightness when I am not playing HDR content.

That's probably not a bad idea to be fair.

Just for a bit of extra advice. As I said before workshop manuals can be a bit tricky to find sometimes. Obviously the owners manuals these days tend to be all but useless. You're lucky if you get any meaningful specs listed in there.

So you can Google your model number of TV and look for the WORKSHOP or SERVICE manual as that should yield something. There's a couple of websites that offer loads of these things (they've been an absolute godsend for me over the years with my reparing equipemtn - I've never have been able to do it were it not for these).

Be careful though - there are some sites which like to charge you for these things. You should be able to find it either free or if not, dirt cheap, probably about a dollar or so (usually just admin cost). They can offer not just the circuit diagram data or troubleshooting stuff, but they're going to give you things like the REAL specs of the TV, and best of all any hidden menus or settings that every TV has.

In that case, you might find a hidden menu that allows you better control over it. That's my thinking here.
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