Game FPS Drops When Moving Mouse

[SoHTigersalamander]

In certain games my FPS will drop when moving my mouse. It can get to be as bad as going from 144 FPS to 10 - 30 FPS. It will also lag when moving back and forth fairly quickly across files in file explorer, and when dragging a window across the screen. (The window dragging is rare, though). I've noticed that when I hold down left click in game and move the mouse, the FPS goes back up and stabilizes again, but only when holding left click.

I've searched for a while and found things about stij malware, which I looked for and couldn't find. By the way the FPS reacts to holding left click, my best guess is mouse drivers; however, I have no idea how to manually update them or roll them back. I have 3 "HID-Compliant" mouse options under device manager. Could uninstalling all of them, unplugging the mouse, and plugging it back in reinstall the drivers for my specific mouse, or would that screw things up?

[mimizukari]

does your mouse use macro drivers or something? could be interfering with your games

[SoHTigersalamander]

Originally posted by Kurumi Tokisaki:

does your mouse use macro drivers or something? could be interfering with your games

My mouse is a Corsair M65 RGB Elite. It has a back/forward button, sniper button, and 2 sensitivity buttons. It doesn't have macro options.

[mimizukari]

post your specs. it's very possible to have a stable fps while staring at one spot and then moving mouse greatly drops it if your specs meet certain conditions.

[SoHTigersalamander]

Originally posted by Kurumi Tokisaki:

post your specs. it's very possible to have a stable fps while staring at one spot and then moving mouse greatly drops it if your specs meet certain conditions.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700KF CPU @ 3.60GHz
32.0GB RAM
64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor. Windows 10
GeForce RTX 2070 Super
I got the computer like a week ago, so it's fairly new. I tried a round-a-bout way of saving my games' save files by copying the files under Appdata and Documents into this new computer's hard drive. While copying, it said it had trouble copying some folders, some being geforce related. Could that be causing this problem?

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by {SoH}Tigersalamander:

Originally posted by Kurumi Tokisaki:

post your specs. it's very possible to have a stable fps while staring at one spot and then moving mouse greatly drops it if your specs meet certain conditions.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700KF CPU @ 3.60GHz
32.0GB RAM
64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor. Windows 10
GeForce RTX 2070 Super
I got the computer like a week ago, so it's fairly new. I tried a round-a-bout way of saving my games' save files by copying the files under Appdata and Documents into this new computer's hard drive. While copying, it said it had trouble copying some folders, some being geforce related. Could that be causing this problem?

Please open Nvidia Control Panel, and set a profile for Counter-Strike Global Offensive making it use your discrete/high-powered GPU. You're using your integrated GPU which is exactly what I thought.

To solve this issue for most other games, set global setting to use high-powered graphics card, but you will still need to set it manually for some games.

Also why did you copy GeForce files over? Delete those and do a clean install of your graphics driver.

[SoHTigersalamander]

Originally posted by Kurumi Tokisaki:

Originally posted by {SoH}Tigersalamander:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700KF CPU @ 3.60GHz
32.0GB RAM
64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor. Windows 10
GeForce RTX 2070 Super
I got the computer like a week ago, so it's fairly new. I tried a round-a-bout way of saving my games' save files by copying the files under Appdata and Documents into this new computer's hard drive. While copying, it said it had trouble copying some folders, some being geforce related. Could that be causing this problem?

Please open Nvidia Control Panel, and set a profile for Counter-Strike Global Offensive making it use your discrete/high-powered GPU. You're using your integrated GPU which is exactly what I thought.

To solve this issue for most other games, set global setting to use high-powered graphics card, but you will still need to set it manually for some games.

Also why did you copy GeForce files over? Delete those and do a clean install of your graphics driver.

well I figured it out. My mouse software, ICUE Corsair was the problem. I uninstalled it and my fps and cpu usage is fine now.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by {SoH}Tigersalamander:

Originally posted by Kurumi Tokisaki:

Please open Nvidia Control Panel, and set a profile for Counter-Strike Global Offensive making it use your discrete/high-powered GPU. You're using your integrated GPU which is exactly what I thought.

To solve this issue for most other games, set global setting to use high-powered graphics card, but you will still need to set it manually for some games.

Also why did you copy GeForce files over? Delete those and do a clean install of your graphics driver.

well I figured it out. My mouse software, ICUE Corsair was the problem. I uninstalled it and my fps and cpu usage is fine now.

well, I tried to cover that in the first post. you don't need those specialized mouse/kb drivers for your devices typically.

[Z-537]

I have had this same problem for months. Bought new mouse because what i was using was cheap, that didnt work, did all kinds of device manager updates, nothing, changed polling rates, nothing. changed back to old monitor, nothing worked. uninstalled new geforece drivers and reinstalled... nothing. update drivers from website, nothing.

last attempt i installed the drivers that came with the geforce, no change. then i clicked on install drivers, a check box is located at the bottom of the screen that says clean install. i clicked that and let the drivers update again. All is good, my only guess is that their was a conflict conflict somewhere in the drivers. everything works.

[Space Taco's]

I had the same and i fixed it easely, If u are gaming on a laptop with geForce experience, i think it automaticaly puts on battery boost . So in Geforce Experience go to settings, then turn battery boost off. It worked for me. I know u dont need this awnser anymore but people google your problem and come across this post. so i hope i can help some people with this.

[Mayar]

Originally posted by Space Taco's:

I had the same and i fixed it easely, If u are gaming on a laptop with geForce experience, i think it automaticaly puts on battery boost . So in Geforce Experience go to settings, then turn battery boost off. It worked for me. I know u dont need this awnser anymore but people google your problem and come across this post. so i hope i can help some people with this.

THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU'RE A LEGEND! I've been looking everywhere for a fix because raw mouse input is very bad in fps games and If I didnt have raw mouse input turned on I would get stutters and fps drops and your geforce battery fix resolved it all, again THANK YOU YOU'RE A LEGEND

[oryulin]

I know this is an old thread, but I thought it would be important to put this here. Etna was 100% on point for my issue. I have spent a long time (more than I'd like to admit) troubleshooting my mouse lag. In short, I moving my mouse like crazy can easily drop my fps to 1-2 if not entirely frozen until I stop. Now I know that many people thought of course your system can't handle that...well I am here to tell you it can.

Not only did I try old Nvidia drivers, upgrading, clean installations, removing microsoft game everything, stopped discord (which actually helped a small bit but was minor at best, hardware acceleration off/et), disable all sorts of registry settings/uninstalled literally everything on my system, upgraded components, the entire works...nothing actually fixed it. Some allowed slight better performance but nothing was a cure all. I spent so much time on GSync/VSync/FPS tuning/et as well...

That said, I had already uninstalled my drivers (specifically razer/et) and not a single component / file existed (or so I thought) from their installation mediums.

Unfortunately I missed the one (more like five) things that resolved it...I needed to go to my device manager and delete all the drivers for my keyboards/mice and profit.

I went from "barely" moving left and right on lowest resolution and video settings and lagging (which seems to increment the longer i played) to full resolution as my monitor (3840x2160) at 120 fps max settings on Cyberpunk/FO76/et, all work just beautifully...for the first time since I've owned this rig, I was actually "touching" the GPU above 20-30%

That was my largest indicator of my issue is cpu/disk/network/gpu ... all of it stayed under 30% at all times, even when my FPS was 1-2 or frozen for a minute straight (which was pretty rough on my mouse to simulate for that long) I checked my stats and not a drop in the bucket...

Anyways all this to say thank you! I thought I had tackled the software bundled with my devices entirely but missed the mice drivers themselves. Back to generic for me and so much happier. If anyone finds this as I did, hopefully it cures your woes as well...don't miss the drivers, software is not enough.

[Eddy]

I'm also sorry for reviving this, but I had this happen to me yesterday after a windows update. I had played a game on Sunday, on the next day, in the very same game, this happened to me, no driver changes, no hardware changes, nothing. But there was a Windows update pending...

So TL;DR, this is what resolved my issues:

• Reboot _twice_ after Windows update. Especially if it starts the whole seteup wizard routine again
  
• Make sure the Power Plan is Performance / High Power or at least Balanced. Make sure the system cooling policy of the selected power plan is 'Active' (not 'Passive').
  
• Set mouse polling rate to around 250 on low-ish power CPU. I have a Ryzen 1600, this is a CPU definitely not ideal for high polling rates, it was set to 1000, I believe it could handle 500 just fine, but 250 works for me.

For explanation, since the day before, there were zero issues, and I had very little time to mess around with anything on my PC for months now, so I didn't do driver updates, install new software or anything. However, I might have set the mouse polling rate to 1k as a test, more on that later though...

First, Windows update: This has been going on since at least Windows 8, with multiple completely different PCs, with prebuilt Laptops, Custom Builds with Intel CPU, AMD CPU, nvidia graphics cards, AMD graphics cards,... everything. Windows tells me it's "just downloading" the updates and not yet installing anything, but networking goes wonky, UI gets laggy, all matter of weird things happen until I restart, then things go back to normal. So when this time the game got laggy and I god around 2-5 FPS while moving the mouse, I remembered that I saw a windows update notification previously and restarted.

This made things worse. I used Gunfire Reborn for testing at this point (and before rebooting as well) because of its low requirements, but still at this point, the game would completely freeze while I was moving the mouse and only continue rendering when I stopped moving it. Then it would render at around 60-80 FPS. (It should have been pegged at 144, which is my monitor max) After trying multiple solutions, I finally decided to reboot again, and that got me about 20% better overall FPS and it wouldnt freeze fully anymore.

Next. Mouse. I'd read this while trying to figure out this issue, but I had first dismissed it as an issue because before the 2nd reboot, whatever I configured in Logitech Gaming Software didn't affect the anything at all, this however changed after the 2nd reboot. At this point I'm just accepting that this piece of garbage software will always cause random annoying issues, because that company's software department is just simply incompetent. Anyway, reducing the polling rate from 1000 to 250 after the second reboot brought my minimum fps while moving the mouse from 5 up to around 90. This definitely helped, but 90 in Gunfire is definitely not enough for a 5700XT.

Lastly, the power plan. I'd actually given up at this point, but after being AFK for around 10 minutes I noticed that my monitor hadn't turned off automatically, so, remembering that Windows update absolutely loves to mess up my power settings, I went in to set the display off timer from 2 hours down to 5 minutes. And at that point I also noticed that the selected power plan was "Power saver". This has a system cooling policy of 'Passive' among other power saving things, like PCIe, and oh big surprise, after changing it back to balanced (my usual default), my FPS are capped at 144 again. Also with this power plan, I can set the mouse polling rate to 1000 again with only very minor FPS dips (about 10%).

I'm assuming that my pre-windows-update state was indeed 1k polling rate together with my normal power plan because I do remember playing around with the polling rate and not noticing anything before, but I would also not be surprised at all if that was LGS just being LGS, I mean GHUB (as if renaming it would make it better) and just randomly changing its settings, wouldn't be the first time either.

A bit more technical details about USB / polling rate. I suspect the massive impact I encountered being mostly a Ryzen 1 issue, but it might also be a Windows thing. But nonetheless, hardware interrupts - and that is what USB does, and that is what the mouse polling rate affects - however are among the worst things one can do to CPU performance, setting this to a high value without actually requiring such a value is usually ... well maybe not a bad idea, but also not a good one.

So maybe you enjoyed my little story time here, maybe not, but I hope that someone can gain from my pains or at least I will find my own post next time one of these issues hits me.

[RPG Gamer Man]

try reinstalling your mouse driver, or contact the manufacturer of your mouse. They maybe able to help you more than some random people on steam. Sometimes i have trouble with my logitech mouse so i contacted them and they always say reinstall the drivers. It sometimes works, but usually the problem comes back. Best thing you can do is contact manufacturer and ask them for help.

[Eddy]

Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:

try reinstalling your mouse driver, or contact the manufacturer of your mouse. They maybe able to help you more than some random people on steam. Sometimes i have trouble with my logitech mouse so i contacted them and they always say reinstall the drivers. It sometimes works, but usually the problem comes back. Best thing you can do is contact manufacturer and ask them for help.

Logitech support is completely incompetent, contacting them is an absolute waste of time, unless you want a replacement device.

I already wrote what solved my issues, without any driver re-install, so there is no reason anyway.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Originally posted by Eddy:

Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:

try reinstalling your mouse driver, or contact the manufacturer of your mouse. They maybe able to help you more than some random people on steam. Sometimes i have trouble with my logitech mouse so i contacted them and they always say reinstall the drivers. It sometimes works, but usually the problem comes back. Best thing you can do is contact manufacturer and ask them for help.

Logitech support is completely incompetent, contacting them is an absolute waste of time, unless you want a replacement device.

I already wrote what solved my issues, without any driver re-install, so there is no reason anyway.

Im glad you got it fixed. Could you mark it as solved please? Also, i will agree with you on logitech support. That is why i said the problem usually comes back for me.