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DennisDennis 11 янв. 2018 г. в 21:49
Too many cheaters, Gaben stop swimming in ur swimming pool of skins cash and do something
Im currently playing wingman with my buddy and 1/3 of the matches are blatant cheaters on. They prefire every possible angle, kills us through walls only and is blatantly hacking...

Why cant noob Gaben get his big frame out of his office chair and do something to improve VAC. ESEA and Faceit have a miniscule portion of the income stream that valve gets from CSGO, yet their anticheat is 10 times better.

Why is valve """"""devs""""" not working on this???
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Just like our claim that VAC is ineffective is not valid as an argument to you, your claim that money is irrelevant to a cheater or the average cheater, won't be for us.
Problem is, your claim that it is 'ineffective' is absolutly incorrect.

There can be many bans aswell as an ineffective tool giving the bans. These are not mutually exclusive.
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 11 янв. 2018 г. в 22:53 
TGO, if they do, please link it to me.

:qr:
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DennisDennis 11 янв. 2018 г. в 22:54 
I think Valve is putting way too much effort on new skins rather than fixing the anti cheat. Forget about skins for half a year and let them all improve the vac.
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OleZHe4kĀ40⅗ 11 янв. 2018 г. в 22:55 
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DennisDennis 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:00 
They could up the game price so its more costly for cheaters, they could start a paid subscription service with more aggressive anticheats and better servers and let them non-paying players have the old system, theres many different options.
Отредактировано DennisDennis; 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:00
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The Giving One 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:00 
Автор сообщения: cSg|mc-Hotsauce
TGO, if they do, please link it to me.

:qr:
Roger that. :steamhappy:



Автор сообщения: dennish
I think Valve is putting way too much effort on new skins rather than fixing the anti cheat. Forget about skins for half a year and let them all improve the vac.
"Fixing" implies something is broken. VAC is working exactly as intended. It is not broken, and therefore does not need fixing.
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Xitreon 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:01 
https://steamdb.info/stats/bans/

VAC does work fine, look at the amount of bans so far this week

Maybe you should read up on the data before posting nonsense.
Also if you want to be taken seriously you really should start providing sources that substantiate your claims, you cannot just claim VAC isn't good enough and expect people to take your word for it, the least you can do is provide data to show us what you are saying is indeed correct
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Beard 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:01 
It's ineffective.
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The Giving One 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:02 
Автор сообщения: dennish
They could up the game price so its more costly for cheaters, they could start a paid subscription service with more aggressive anticheats and better servers and let them non-paying players have the old system, theres many different options.
We have seen cases where users have had over 10 accounts VAC banned. Money to a cheater is irrelevant.

See, cheating is like an addiction. Much like a substance addiction. The cheater will also steal the money if they have to, just like someone addicted to a substance. Increasing the price would not solve anything.

The paid subscription thing has been brought up before, too. Again, see my above comment about money and how that makes no difference to a cheater in many cases.
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Beard 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:04 
Just like our claim that VAC is ineffective is not valid as an argument to you, your claim that money is irrelevant to a cheater or the average cheater, won't be for us.

Edit: What has worked, to a degree, is PRIME. I would gladly play under my full name and home-address even, if that would reduce the amount of cheaters I'm seeing.
Отредактировано Beard; 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:07
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DennisDennis 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:06 
Автор сообщения: The Giving One
Автор сообщения: cSg|mc-Hotsauce
TGO, if they do, please link it to me.

:qr:
Roger that. :steamhappy:



Автор сообщения: dennish
I think Valve is putting way too much effort on new skins rather than fixing the anti cheat. Forget about skins for half a year and let them all improve the vac.
"Fixing" implies something is broken. VAC is working exactly as intended. It is not broken, and therefore does not need fixing.

Me and my buddy just played a string of wingman games, were almost HALF of the games had BLATANT cheaters on their team. If the purpose of VAC then is to eliminate cheaters, it's in fact BROKEN from a players point of view.
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DennisDennis 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:06 
Автор сообщения: Xitreon
https://steamdb.info/stats/bans/

VAC does work fine, look at the amount of bans so far this week

Maybe you should read up on the data before posting nonsense.
Also if you want to be taken seriously you really should start providing sources that substantiate your claims, you cannot just claim VAC isn't good enough and expect people to take your word for it, the least you can do is provide data to show us what you are saying is indeed correct

Vac doesnt work fine, look at the amount of cheaters this week. You just wrote a column of complete BS.
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The Giving One 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:07 
Автор сообщения: Royish
Just like our claim that VAC is ineffective is not valid as an argument to you, your claim that money is irrelevant to a cheater or the average cheater, won't be for us.
Problem is, your claim that it is 'ineffective' is absolutly incorrect.

The VAC forum only goes back 120 pages. The date on that last thread is only about a week or so old.

That means hundreds of banned accounts in only days, if not thousands. We see it all day long there.

Feel free to check out the VAC forum and look at just how "ineffective" VAC is. :steamhappy:
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Xitreon 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:07 
Автор сообщения: dennish
Автор сообщения: The Giving One
Roger that. :steamhappy:




"Fixing" implies something is broken. VAC is working exactly as intended. It is not broken, and therefore does not need fixing.

Me and my buddy just played a string of wingman games, were almost HALF of the games had BLATANT cheaters on their team. If the purpose of VAC then is to eliminate cheaters, it's in fact BROKEN from a players point of view.

Do you know how VAC works?
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Beard 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:08 
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Автор сообщения: Royish
Just like our claim that VAC is ineffective is not valid as an argument to you, your claim that money is irrelevant to a cheater or the average cheater, won't be for us.
Problem is, your claim that it is 'ineffective' is absolutly incorrect.

There can be many bans aswell as an ineffective tool giving the bans. These are not mutually exclusive.
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The Giving One 11 янв. 2018 г. в 23:09 
Автор сообщения: dennish

Me and my buddy just played a string of wingman games, were almost HALF of the games had BLATANT cheaters on their team. If the purpose of VAC then is to eliminate cheaters, it's in fact BROKEN from a players point of view.
Yep, and every one of them may be flagged right now for a delayed VAC ban, and there is no way you can know that. VAC is delayed for a reason. That is, if they were actually using identifialbe cheats.

Do you not understand that the cheat has to be identifiable before it can be banned for ? Otherwise, you get too many false bans.

Cheats don't just come with labels on them, you know. They have to be identifiable.

Edit code, sell cheat agian. Rinse and repeat. VAC bans the account, edit code, sell cheat again.

Rinse and repeat.

There will always be cheating. There is no perfect solution.
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