Getting Steam working with a rather unique Microsoft Store title...

[Roland]

Okay so I'm trying to get Steam working with Phantasy Star Online 2 on the Microsoft Store.
I tried the UWP Hook thing but I'm guessing since this game uses a Launcher, that's why it's not working.
I REALLY don't wanna go back to DS4Windows after using Steam Input for 5 years.
Does anyone have a trick for this or somethin?
Pretty Please?

[Rikara!]

Maybe you could "add" the game to steam.
If you click "Add a non steam game" and locate the game, you might be able to skip the launcher.

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por Mistake:

Maybe you could "add" the game to steam.
If you click "Add a non steam game" and locate the game, you might be able to skip the launcher.

That's not possible. UWP apps have crazy protection and you can't even touch the folder

[MancSoulja]

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

Escrito originalmente por Mistake:

Maybe you could "add" the game to steam.
If you click "Add a non steam game" and locate the game, you might be able to skip the launcher.

That's not possible. UWP apps have crazy protection and you can't even touch the folder

You can, you just need to manually take ownership of it.

I'm not sure if there's much you can do in regards to PSO2 at the moment. Are you sure it's a UWP app and not a Win32 app pretending to be one like Metro Exodus and Halo: MCC?

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por MancSoulja:

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

That's not possible. UWP apps have crazy protection and you can't even touch the folder

You can, you just need to manually take ownership of it.

I'm not sure if there's much you can do in regards to PSO2 at the moment. Are you sure it's a UWP app and not a Win32 app pretending to be one like Metro Exodus and Halo: MCC?

Ya I know it's a UWP app, hence why I tried UWP Hook already.
That actually works until it loads the next exe in the chain of launching the game. (basically Steam works in PSo2startup.exe for about 3 seconds before the exe closes and presents the launcher)
So if there's a way to get UWP Hook to hook into all exe's in a folder (the way Steam will if you enable it in launchers) then I think we'd be in business.

edit: also being able to view a folder doesn't mean you can touch it imo. You can take ownership till the cows come how but you still can't edit anything in the folders. I went through that with Kodi last year

[MancSoulja]

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

Escrito originalmente por MancSoulja:

You can, you just need to manually take ownership of it.

I'm not sure if there's much you can do in regards to PSO2 at the moment. Are you sure it's a UWP app and not a Win32 app pretending to be one like Metro Exodus and Halo: MCC?

Ya I know it's a UWP app, hence why I tried UWP Hook already.
That actually works until it loads the next exe in the chain of launching the game. (basically Steam works in PSo2startup.exe for about 3 seconds before the exe closes and presents the launcher)
So if there's a way to get UWP Hook to hook into all exe's in a folder (the way Steam will if you enable it in launchers) then I think we'd be in business.

edit: also being able to view a folder doesn't mean you can touch it imo. You can take ownership till the cows come how but you still can't edit anything in the folders. I went through that with Kodi last year

If PSO has .exe files it's not UWP, it's Win32. UWP apps don't use .exe files.

You can test yourself by opening the game settings and checking if it has a full screen mode. Full screen is another feature UWP doesn't offer.

Edit: Just downloaded it. it's 100% a Win32 app. Just take ownership of your WinApps folder and add the .exe to steam manually like any other game.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0tRSc3y/Untitled.png

[Almighty End]

ya know what i was excited for pso2 but microsoft are asshats they made it so you ahve to have windows 10 os has never been a big requirement and to top it off you have to have a xbox one account to login or to just launch a complaint in the forum greedy pieces of ♥♥♥♥. they just tainted something i have been waiting years for funny thing when it was the japanese version i didnt hav eany problems logging in or playing the game on windows 8

[Ettanin]

Pso2 uses the ring0 DRM/Anticheat GameGuard. The Steam overlay may be blocked by GameGuard.

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por Ettanin:

Pso2 uses the ring0 DRM/Anticheat GameGuard. The Steam overlay may be blocked by GameGuard.

so did the JP version and it was possible there.

Escrito originalmente por Almighty End (lethal09):

ya know what i was excited for pso2 but microsoft are asshats they made it so you ahve to have windows 10 os has never been a big requirement and to top it off you have to have a xbox one account to login or to just launch a complaint in the forum greedy pieces of ♥♥♥♥. they just tainted something i have been waiting years for funny thing when it was the japanese version i didnt hav eany problems logging in or playing the game on windows 8

So what you're saying is you're a walking security risk and everyone should hack you?
That's literally the only thing you're conveying by crying off topic like this.
Microsoft actually added things to the game like voice chat that may or may not rely on technology provided by Windows 10.
Hell you can't even use DirectX12 and yet you think you should still be supported...
Please cry somewhere else or I will be marking you as spam.
Now back on topic:

Escrito originalmente por MancSoulja:

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

Ya I know it's a UWP app, hence why I tried UWP Hook already.
That actually works until it loads the next exe in the chain of launching the game. (basically Steam works in PSo2startup.exe for about 3 seconds before the exe closes and presents the launcher)
So if there's a way to get UWP Hook to hook into all exe's in a folder (the way Steam will if you enable it in launchers) then I think we'd be in business.

edit: also being able to view a folder doesn't mean you can touch it imo. You can take ownership till the cows come how but you still can't edit anything in the folders. I went through that with Kodi last year

If PSO has .exe files it's not UWP, it's Win32. UWP apps don't use .exe files.

You can test yourself by opening the game settings and checking if it has a full screen mode. Full screen is another feature UWP doesn't offer.

Edit: Just downloaded it. it's 100% a Win32 app. Just take ownership of your WinApps folder and add the .exe to steam manually like any other game.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0tRSc3y/Untitled.png

Yea, except no.
EXACTLY what I said would happen happens.
I can only take ownership of the folders and if me or Steam (even running as Admin) try to open any of the exe's we do not have permission and are denied.
Literally can't even add it to Steam's list

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por davidb11:

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

so did the JP version and it was possible there.

So what you're saying is you're a walking security risk and everyone should hack you?
That's literally the only thing you're conveying by crying off topic like this.
Microsoft actually added things to the game like voice chat that may or may not rely on technology provided by Windows 10.
Hell you can't even use DirectX12 and yet you think you should still be supported...
Please cry somewhere else or I will be marking you as spam.
Now back on topic:



Yea, except no.
EXACTLY what I said would happen happens.
I can only take ownership of the folders and if me or Steam (even running as Admin) try to open any of the exe's we do not have permission and are denied.
Literally can't even add it to Steam's list

There is literally no possible way to block access to the files inside of a folder on a computer by any program. That is beyond malware level stuff right there.
So, tell me how you cannot physically do anything with the folder itself.

There's no possible way any program would ever be made or run that would block access to files inside the folder, let alone make it impossible to connect it to anything else.

That would be so bad for anyone to do it would be the kiss of Death for the people who made it.
Seriously, it just makes zero sense for that to be a thing.
Malware isn't even usually that cruel. And it's literally malware.

And yet here we are:
https://imgur.com/a/a44sx6D

Last year when I was messing with Kodi I did manage to get control of the individual files but the app wouldn't launch afterwards and it was a PIA that I'd rather not go through with a game I can workaround for the time being.
This is why i need some kind of UWP Hook or something I think; 'basic' Windows stuff ain't gonna cut it here.

[Nx Machina]

Because it is not released on Steam and the exe hooks into an Xbox Live Account, (not gold).

If you are playing Phantasy Star Online 2 on Windows 10, access the Microsoft Store on your PC and make sure your Xbox Live Account is logged in. If you do not have one, you can create a Microsoft Xbox Live Account here.

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por Kusa:

Because it is not released on Steam and the exe hooks into an Xbox Live Account, (not gold).

If you are playing Phantasy Star Online 2 on Windows 10, access the Microsoft Store on your PC and make sure your Xbox Live Account is logged in. If you do not have one, you can create a Microsoft Xbox Live Account here.

If you knew anything about what I'm talking about in my first post you would realize I already know that, but I do appreciate the bump. Thank you!

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por davidb11:

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

And yet here we are:
https://imgur.com/a/a44sx6D

Last year when I was messing with Kodi I did manage to get control of the individual files but the app wouldn't launch afterwards and it was a PIA that I'd rather not go through with a game I can workaround for the time being.
This is why i need some kind of UWP Hook or something I think; 'basic' Windows stuff ain't gonna cut it here.

It must be some absurd Windows 10 thing. I've never heard of anything like this at all.
Sorry.

It is lol. No worries.
It's this weird like permission level thing. Honestly, a tad out of my depth. I just know when I alter the permissions it breaks the app. My guess is a "next gen security technology to help ensure security for developer's and their apps, only on the Microsoft store" type thinking cuz it is a tad overkill, even for the "protect the user from themselves" approach.

[MrMojoRisin]

Did you ever figure this out? I ran into the exact same problem and have not been able to find a solution.

[Roland]

Escrito originalmente por MrMojoRisin:

Did you ever figure this out? I ran into the exact same problem and have not been able to find a solution.

Negative. I heard Arks Layer got the Tweaker working, but I'm hesitant to try it so soon, as I dunno how MS is going to react. I'm assuming they won't care, but on the off chance they ban I wanna give it a lil time.

[MrMojoRisin]

Escrito originalmente por Roland:

Escrito originalmente por MrMojoRisin:

Did you ever figure this out? I ran into the exact same problem and have not been able to find a solution.

Negative. I heard Arks Layer got the Tweaker working, but I'm hesitant to try it so soon, as I dunno how MS is going to react. I'm assuming they won't care, but on the off chance they ban I wanna give it a lil time.

Oof. I just tried using the tweaker and adding it as a non-steam game. No luck yet. Controller won't respond at all.