ΛCY|Ziz1243 2019년 3월 4일 오후 11시 44분
Skin Economy Gambling/Trading/Selling/Analysis Site URL Suspiciousness
I was wondering why Steam blocks just some of the sites connected to skin gambling/trading/selling and/or price analysis with the "suspicious url" warning or just straight "link removed".

It turns out even a lot of sites that are purely for price analysis like "CSGO Exchange", "CSGO Steamanalyst", "CSGO Zone" and "CSGO Stash" get flagged as well.
To my complete suprise "OPSKINS" which propably used to be the most well-known site to sell skins is even featured with an embedded link and even two major gambling sites like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are also given an embedded link with information.

I do not know what Valve is trying to do here and I am neither an advocate nor an opponent of gambling of in game items.
Some sites like "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" and "Bitskins" that are really only for buying skins are flagged while the sites "Playerauctions" and "Gamerall" practically do the same as I am aware and do not get the "suspicious url" label.

It is just all over the place and I would like to know if there is a way for me to use a link e.g. to my page on "Lootbear" to not get removed on my profile as that is neither a scam site nor a gambling site.

NOTE: My latest public artwork on my profile shows the sites I tested in a chat if you are curious.

EDIT1:I just saw that Steam even censored some of the sites I listed in my original post. I believe those were both sites associated with skin gambling. Let me try again:
TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
and even two major gambling sites like "CSGO 500" and "Skin hub" are also given an embedded link with information.
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Zekiran 2019년 3월 12일 오전 12시 55분 
Your account is at risk right now, dude, go ahead and flaunt those illegal sites some more.

Jesus, you're thick.
ΛCY|Ziz1243 2019년 3월 12일 오전 1시 09분 
Teksura님이 먼저 게시:
TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
I actually do not believe that any of the sites here I mentioned in all 5 posts are scams so there is that.
Your determined and willful naivety doesn't make a difference.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
But also like I said it is not my fault that people are stupid
It is when you're the one advertising and promoting the sites for them.
If there is nothing wrong with the sites then why should there even be a problem.
Like some other people on here already agreed with me the problem mostly comes from the stupidity and none of these sites I mentioned are scams. You and some other people are trying to tell me that I am promoting nothing but scam and phishing sites and in fact not even huge Russian "OPSKINS" scammed anyone except maybe Valve/Steam itself because they were bypassing them. The gambling sites a lot of the time do not either.
Stupid users just report them because they "lost their items".
How on earth would a site like "CSGO stash" which lets you browse all the items of CSGO, listen to the music kits and see all the skins so you can figure out what you like, get flagged with a warning "suspicious link" there is not way it could scam you. And even if you want to report it for "price manipulation" like some other guy here said, what is the point if I go into a supermarket (bad analogy already) and I see milk for 5 Euros a liter, I will not burn down the store but just go to a different one where it is cheaper. And you cannot even buy any items on most of the analysis sites. They link you to the Steam market or buy sites like "OPSKINS" used to be.
ΛCY|Ziz1243 2019년 3월 12일 오전 1시 14분 
Zekiran님이 먼저 게시:
Your account is at risk right now, dude, go ahead and flaunt those illegal sites some more.

Jesus, you're thick.
How? Just because I mentioned the names of the sites? What are you talking about? So you would love all of these sites links banned even if you have no idea what they did or if they are actually phishing/scamming? How about next we ban all the Twitter, Whatsapp, Facebook, Telegram, YouTube, Twitch, or whatever someone could use to post links that could link to any of the sites that are scamming, could be scamming, could be phishing, could be doing anything that I do not like or have no idea about. Just ban all the links because someone could be offended. What the hell?

This thread is getting weirder by the minute! The first like 4 or so comments were fine. But now it is getting rediculous!
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Teksura 2019년 3월 12일 오후 6시 01분 
TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
That is what pretty much every mainstream banking/crypto site does as well. Paypal could steal my identity the same way they could.

The difference being that Paypal is a legitimate business that has clear accountability and don't hide their identity with incomplete fields in domain registry.


TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
How is this even remotely "easy to work around"?

You're joking right? It's not hard to produce a fake ID that is convincing enough for the camera. You can make it on your computer. Additionally, prepaid cards are also easy to get hold of, and some very trivial photo editing software can put those numbers on a convincing looking regular card.

Or the easier way to do it is just use a stolen card and ID.



TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
From Lootbear:
We require:

- A photo of the account owner (you) with a government issued ID, (driver’s license or passport) as well as a piece of paper saying “Lootbear” + the current date.

Covered above.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
- A link to a social media account. (Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, VK, Twitter).

If you think this has any kind of security to it you're fooling yourself, social media profiles are free and can be set up with no trouble.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
- Should the payment owner be a parent, the person who owns the debit/credit card will need to provide verification, along with the Lootbear account owner.
If the parent provides a valid government issued ID, the Lootbear account owner can provide any type of ID.
So what? Doesn't change any issues.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
- A photo of the payment card used on file next to the ID. We need to see the last 4 digits, as well as the name.

Oh so it's even easier to fake than I thought? Awesome.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
I would love to see you get passed this if you are so sure it is "laughable":

- Risk evaluation AI - An adaptive machine learning system that evaluates each rent risk level in real-time. It uses hundreds of signals about each user & payment and taps into data across our network of 100,000+ businesses to predict whether a user or payment is likely to be fraudulent.
- Credit insurance - We authorize your payment with an international card issuer. Meaning, if an item is stolen, your credit company or bank will charge you 110% of stolen items value.
- Scam signal - If fraud has being detected, our system sends out a signal (report) to Valve and to your local law enforcement as a theft felony.

Easy. I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but people can just write ANYTHING they want to online. Last week I got an email from "Herbert Hoover, Secretary of State by trade" informing me that he had $2 million USD in funds on hold for me.

TimmiWanted1243님이 먼저 게시:
And honestly who cares about whatever the SSA is. I live in Europe anyway.
You should care about the Steam Subscriber Agreement if you intend to use Steam. You agreed to follow it, and it doesn't matter what continent you're on. If you break it you agreed that Valve can shut down your account.
Zekiran 2019년 3월 12일 오후 6시 12분 
How is it endangering your account right now?

By you actually using those sites, plain and simple.
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