How will you be able to play XP only games post-2019?

[Wankovich, Ista]

To compound the matter, some XP only games only come with steam intergrated (installing off a cd out of box requires steam). Would it be possible to just release a version of steam that literally only has you sign in to verify your games library thus allowing you to play the games?

Inb4; Update to better windoze, Get Linux, ure screwed, 'gamz r licences ♥♥♥ u', and IDK

Edit: Why not use an embedded form of firefox for xp and vista? I get this is 'only' going to affect 'less than 0.2%' but I'm asking out of the principle of the matter...

[Omega]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

Автор сообщения: Omega

People are also having issues with Games For Windows Live titles they only run on Windows XP - 7. We have to use cracks, modified .ini files and other workarounds to run these games on Windows 10. So when Windows 7 gets it's support dropped in 3+ years same story there.

All my GFWL games run fine on Windows 10.

I have to use various workarounds for a few titles such as Battlestations.

[Winged One]

Автор сообщения: Omega

Автор сообщения: theseraph1

Your old XP games will still be playable, you will just have to play them on a newer PC.

I have plenty of XP era games, and even more 9x era games.. I have yet to find 1 that won't run.on my w7 or w10 builds

Yes indeed OP can still install them but there are quite a few Windows Vista (or older) titles which do not run properly anymore on modern OSs.

One example is Stormrise (No longer sold on Steam) it will only run on Windows Vista. People who bought this title are now stuck with it.

People are also having issues with Games For Windows Live titles they only run on Windows XP - 7. We have to use cracks, modified .ini files and other workarounds to run these games on Windows 10. So when Windows 7 gets it's support dropped in 3+ years same story there.

I was able to play gfwl games on w10 perfectly fine

[Wankovich, Ista]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

The games are still playable, you just need a compatible platform to play it

I think this response does have merit. But that is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.
ONE niggle I have is the XP games where the only DRM is steam, specifically the ones with XP logo on the box... Because those not working on XP is a little bit like having the advertising on the box lie to you...


That said, the post above mine is kinda silly, Just because the games you tried all worked doesn't mean all games will work and that they will work on all systems just fine :s

[Omega]

Автор сообщения: theseraph1

Автор сообщения: Omega

Yes indeed OP can still install them but there are quite a few Windows Vista (or older) titles which do not run properly anymore on modern OSs.

One example is Stormrise (No longer sold on Steam) it will only run on Windows Vista. People who bought this title are now stuck with it.

People are also having issues with Games For Windows Live titles they only run on Windows XP - 7. We have to use cracks, modified .ini files and other workarounds to run these games on Windows 10. So when Windows 7 gets it's support dropped in 3+ years same story there.

I was able to play gfwl games on w10 perfectly fine

Not all of them are affected but many are. Fallout 3 should run fine since it does not depend on GFWL other titles such as Battlestations which I mentioned in my previous post will not allow you to play without GFWL installed and running.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Автор сообщения: Wankovich, Ista

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

The games are still playable, you just need a compatible platform to play it

I think this response does have merit. But that is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

Doesn't seem like something I said and the link goes to a different post.

[Winged One]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

Автор сообщения: Wankovich, Ista

I think this response does have merit. But that is indeed a bitter pill to swallow.

Doesn't seem like something I said and the link goes to a different post.

Pretty sure he was quoting me

[Wankovich, Ista]

I apologise for any misquotes

[Spawn of Totoro]

There is also Linux with WINE. That should work well with older XP games and free too.

[Satoru]

Uh you can play XP games fine on Windows 10

[Wankovich, Ista]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

There is also Linux with WINE. That should work well with older XP games and free too.

As good as it gets for answers :( Ty though

[Wankovich, Ista]

Автор сообщения: Satoru

Uh you can play XP games fine on Windows 10

LOL

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: Wankovich, Ista

Автор сообщения: Satoru

Uh you can play XP games fine on Windows 10

LOL

Again most games on XP work fine on Windows 10. The only ons that really dont are ones with SecurROM DRM which was deprecated in Windows 10. Otehr than that 90% of XP games work fine on modern OS

If you want to ask a question at least ask it HONESTLY, rather than making false claims like everything i sgoing to magically stop working in Windows 10.

[Omega]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

There is also Linux with WINE. That should work well with older XP games and free too.

I also suggested that in post #1 but now that I think about it Steam still needs to be installed under Windows XP/Vista in WINE. Unless for some magical reason the games does work under Windows 7, 8 or 10 in WINE we are still unable to play the Windows XP/Vista 'only' games.

And you can basically forget about running any DirectX 8.1 or older titles. These DirectX 8.1 titles don't run that well in WINE, if they run at all that is.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Автор сообщения: Omega

I also suggested that in post #1 but now that I think about it Steam still needs to be installed under Windows XP/Vista in WINE. Unless for some magical reason the games does work under Windows 7, 8 or 10 in WINE we are still unable to play the Windows XP/Vista 'only' games.

And you can basically forget about running anything running any DirectX 8.1 or older titles. These DirectX 8.1 titles don't run that well in WINE, if they run at all that is.

Wine should work with up to DX11 now.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/wine-3-0-released-direct3d-11-support

I am sure WINE is able to be better customized per a game as well, to allow XP games to run with no issues.

[Omega]

Автор сообщения: Spawn of Totoro

Автор сообщения: Omega

I also suggested that in post #1 but now that I think about it Steam still needs to be installed under Windows XP/Vista in WINE. Unless for some magical reason the games does work under Windows 7, 8 or 10 in WINE we are still unable to play the Windows XP/Vista 'only' games.

And you can basically forget about running anything running any DirectX 8.1 or older titles. These DirectX 8.1 titles don't run that well in WINE, if they run at all that is.

Wine should work with up to DX11 now.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/wine-3-0-released-direct3d-11-support

I am sure WINE is able to be better customized per a game as well, to allow XP games to run with no issues.

Yes but older version of DirectX are not properly supported if at all.

And even the supported DirectX version don't work most of the time. 8/10 games in my Steam library will not run in WINE and half of the 2/10 that do have serious issues. With DXVK (DirectX to Vulkan) and other tools I might be able to get 3/10 running.

Yes, you are correct people in the community will probably find work arounds for at least some of these games.

But let's assume a game will only run in Vista due to some crazy DRM (Cough) Stormrise (Cough) or due to some WINE issues. We will need to create a Windows Vista WINE bottle, Steam will think it is a Windows Vista machine and it might refuse to install or if you get it installed it might not work.