Craze Ladd Jan 20, 2019 @ 1:03pm
Steam takes too long to open
So pretty much, steam has been taking wwaayy to long to open recently. I used to take only a couple of seconds to open after clicking on the steam icon, but not it takes anywhere from 3 -6 minutes just to launch.
If anyone knows a fix for this I would love to hear it.
Thank you, and have a wonderful day :D
Originally posted by The Giving One:
Hello Craze Ladd,

The safe boot suggestion was just a test and it seemed to show in fact that something is negatively affecting Steam in a normal boot of Windows.

Since these types of programs don't run on boot of your PC when you boot into safe mode, it's a great way to see what's going on perhaps.

So check for any processes that are running in normal Windows, even if they just run in the background.

From what you have posted here, it really just sounds like you have way too many programs starting up on boot in normal Windows, and probably don't need most of them running at all anyway, as well as the fact they will run when you launch them anyway when needed.

Some of these can just innocently take up system resources, but yet some of them can directly cause problems with Steam and/or games. For example :

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289

If you want us to help look at these to see if we can make suggestions :

1. Take screenshots of all of the programs you have installed on your computer. Control panel then programs/programs and features. (Windows 7,8,8.1) or "apps" (Windows 10 click "Start" (Windows icon on bottom left))

2. Click Windows Start and type in msconfig and run that resulting process. Go to the services tab and check the box on bottom "Hide all Microsoft services". Take screenshots of all that is left.

3. Then go to the startup tab on top of that same window (Task Manager in W10). Expand the header on the left so we can best see the process name (small window, so do the best you can). Take screenshots of all that there also. Don't forget to scroll down if needed and get everything in the shots, please.

Post all the links to the above screenshots here, using a file hosting site such as imgur.com, which is free to use.
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The Giving One Jan 20, 2019 @ 2:21pm 
3 to 6 solid minutes to fully launch ?

That is a long time indeed. Try this as a quick test only just to maybe narrow down where the issue is :

Boot your PC into safe mode with networking and do nothing at all but launch Steam using the normal method you use. See if you notice improvement there.

If you do, reply so here please, and we can try to further suggest how to go about correcting the issue.

If you have ever seen any error messages at all when trying to run Steam, post them next also.
Craze Ladd Jan 20, 2019 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
3 to 6 solid minutes to fully launch ?

That is a long time indeed. Try this as a quick test only just to maybe narrow down where the issue is :

Boot your PC into safe mode with networking and do nothing at all but launch Steam using the normal method you use. See if you notice improvement there.

If you do, reply so here please, and we can try to further suggest how to go about correcting the issue.

If you have ever seen any error messages at all when trying to run Steam, post them next also.
How do you boot your PC in Safe Mode?
Jaunitta 🌸 Jan 20, 2019 @ 3:13pm 
Delete web cache. Steam Settings.
The Giving One Jan 20, 2019 @ 3:13pm 
Depends on your operating system some maybe, but use the Start box and type in msconfig and run that process that results in the search.

There, you get the option to boot into safe mode with networking.

Please note it is not just "safe mode". It is safe mode "with networking". Without networking, you cannot connect to the internet at all, as those network drivers will not be utilized to do so.
Craze Ladd Jan 20, 2019 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by Jaunitta 🌸:
Delete web cache. Steam Settings.
Deleting Web Cache has done nothing. Neither has reinstalling


Originally posted by The Giving One:
Depends on your operating system some maybe, but use the Start box and type in msconfig and run that process that results in the search.

There, you get the option to boot into safe mode with networking.

Please note it is not just "safe mode". It is safe mode "with networking". Without networking, you cannot connect to the internet at all, as those network drivers will not be utilized to do so.
I'm gonna try this in a bit and tell you how ti turned out.
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
Depends on your operating system some maybe, but use the Start box and type in msconfig and run that process that results in the search.

There, you get the option to boot into safe mode with networking.

Please note it is not just "safe mode". It is safe mode "with networking". Without networking, you cannot connect to the internet at all, as those network drivers will not be utilized to do so.
Sorry for the delay in response, I've had my hands full for the past few days. I tried out your method of booting the PC in Safe Mode with networking and it surprisingly worked.

I decided to actually time the amount of time it takes to boot up both in and out of safe mode.
In normal Windows mode, it takes aprox. 2 1/2 minutes (sometimes longer).
In Safe mode it takes around 10-15 seconds.

I personally don't know what to do with this information but if you can figure something out I would greatly appreciate it :D
Last edited by Craze Ladd; Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:13pm
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The Giving One Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:19pm 
Hello Craze Ladd,

The safe boot suggestion was just a test and it seemed to show in fact that something is negatively affecting Steam in a normal boot of Windows.

Since these types of programs don't run on boot of your PC when you boot into safe mode, it's a great way to see what's going on perhaps.

So check for any processes that are running in normal Windows, even if they just run in the background.

From what you have posted here, it really just sounds like you have way too many programs starting up on boot in normal Windows, and probably don't need most of them running at all anyway, as well as the fact they will run when you launch them anyway when needed.

Some of these can just innocently take up system resources, but yet some of them can directly cause problems with Steam and/or games. For example :

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289

If you want us to help look at these to see if we can make suggestions :

1. Take screenshots of all of the programs you have installed on your computer. Control panel then programs/programs and features. (Windows 7,8,8.1) or "apps" (Windows 10 click "Start" (Windows icon on bottom left))

2. Click Windows Start and type in msconfig and run that resulting process. Go to the services tab and check the box on bottom "Hide all Microsoft services". Take screenshots of all that is left.

3. Then go to the startup tab on top of that same window (Task Manager in W10). Expand the header on the left so we can best see the process name (small window, so do the best you can). Take screenshots of all that there also. Don't forget to scroll down if needed and get everything in the shots, please.

Post all the links to the above screenshots here, using a file hosting site such as imgur.com, which is free to use.
Last edited by The Giving One; Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:19pm
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
Hello Craze Ladd,

The safe boot suggestion was just a test and it seemed to show in fact that something is negatively affecting Steam in a normal boot of Windows.

Since these types of programs don't run on boot of your PC when you boot into safe mode, it's a great way to see what's going on perhaps.

So check for any processes that are running in normal Windows, even if they just run in the background.

From what you have posted here, it really just sounds like you have way too many programs starting up on boot in normal Windows, and probably don't need most of them running at all anyway, as well as the fact they will run when you launch them anyway when needed.

Some of these can just innocently take up system resources, but yet some of them can directly cause problems with Steam and/or games. For example :

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289

If you want us to help look at these to see if we can make suggestions :

1. Take screenshots of all of the programs you have installed on your computer. Control panel then programs/programs and features. (Windows 7,8,8.1) or "apps" (Windows 10 click "Start" (Windows icon on bottom left))

2. Click Windows Start and type in msconfig and run that resulting process. Go to the services tab and check the box on bottom "Hide all Microsoft services". Take screenshots of all that is left.

3. Then go to the startup tab on top of that same window (Task Manager in W10). Expand the header on the left so we can best see the process name (small window, so do the best you can). Take screenshots of all that there also. Don't forget to scroll down if needed and get everything in the shots, please.

Post all the links to the above screenshots here, using a file hosting site such as imgur.com, which is free to use.

These are all the screenshots that you asked for. Hope this helps to resolve the issue.

https://imgur.com/a/bvf1DsX
The Giving One Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:50pm 
HOLY mother of............:steamhappy:

Yea, without even looking at each and every one for now, you have WAY too many programs surely.

And I do see some that are an issue for sure with Steam and/or games. It will take some time to got through these so please stand by.
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
HOLY mother of............:steamhappy:

Yea, without even looking at each and every one for now, you have WAY too many programs surely.

And I do see some that are an issue for sure with Steam and/or games. It will take some time to got through these so please stand by.

Take all the time in the world, I'm just glad that there is someone who is willing to help :D
The Giving One Jan 24, 2019 @ 3:07pm 
Honestly, there are so many installed programs, I cannot read them well, as the results are so small due to them being so large. Most are games, perhaps, but I do see many others that I have no idea what they do. You will need to decide on which ones you want to stop from autorunning on boot, and/or which ones you will uninstall for now if needed just to test this issue you have.

I will just go through your msconfig shots for now and cover what I see that might surely be an issue there, but keep in mind that there still might be some programs that can cause issues that just don't have services running right at this very moment becaue that program is not running.

The more programs and process you have that have to start on boot, the longer it will take to run Steam, if you have Steam set to auto run on boot, too. If there is one or more conflicts, that can cause Steam to launch slowly if you manually start Steam.

CCleaner <<<<<<-------THIS is a big one here.

Has a monitoring mode setting in the options tab (depending on version) that directly conflicts with Steam/games if set to monitor. DIsable all these, or set it to not run on boot in msconfig, or uninstall for now and reboot.

acCAMservice

Is this a webcam service ? It might just be an updater service and you probably don't need that for games.

AutoDesk Desktop App Service

What is this for ? Sounds like something that you don't need for games.

Adobe Services

Probably for Adobe reader and not needed for games. These are probably not a conflict issue, but still run in the background taking up resources needlessly while you try to run Steam.

BlueStacks Log Rotator Service

Is this some kind of desktop authentication software for your Steam account ? If not, what is that for ? Yes, I can see it is not running but the question still stands.

Hi Rez Studios Authenticate and ?

HP support solutions Framework - This might just be an updater service or other type of service that is probably not needed at all, but surely not for games. Research what this is before you disable it.

Intel Security Assistant

It's a security process. It might be causing an issue with Steam/games. There are several Intel security processes there that need investigating.

I can barely read the startup shot, but I do see CCleaner there. Disalbe CCleaner from running automatically on boot. You don't need CCleaner for games, and as explained above, the monitoring mode section is a conflict with Steam/games.

There still might be some other processes/programs that are an issue. If so, it may take some time to go through all this and limit on boot what is running that can slow down Steam.
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 3:41pm 
Thanks for the response. I am going to do just as you said and go through all my programs and see which ones I don't actually need and then uninstall them accordingly.

If you go back to the Imgur page ( https://imgur.com/a/bvf1DsX ) everything should seem clearer. The blurriness may have been due to the reason that I have a 1440p monitor so Imgur tried to compress the image but failed. I retook the screenshots on my secondary monitor which is in fact 1080p and from what I see, they seem to be clearer.

For CCleaner, I went through all of the settings and didn't see any type of monitoring option besides maybe smart cleaning (which may be contributing to the problem so I turned that off). CCleaner did boot on startup from the task manager, so I have disabled that.

acCAMservice is a program which comes in par with my CPU liquid cooler. The application monitors CPU and GPU performance and also regulates the speed at witch my fans for both the liquid cooler and the case itself runs at. I have had this program since first building my computer 2 years ago and the steam problems only became apparent around 2 weeks ago.

Also, I'm gonna add on that I had long steam boot times some time ago as well. The problem was fixed after I had uninstalled GMod, which was taking around 90g just from workshop files. Since the problem has come back, I did uninstall GMod, but that did nothing to help me.

AutoDesk Desktop App Service (Autodesk Inventor) is a computer-aided design application for 3D mechanical design. This is a program that I needed for my Design and Drafting for Production class. I genuinely don't need it anymore so I will, in fact, uninstall it but this program also would not be a probable cause as I have had it for over a year.

BlueStacks Log Rotator Service is a program that allows for you to play Android games on your computer. I used to use this in order to play Clash of Clans but haven't used it in over a year so I will indeed uninstall it.

Hi-Rez Studios is a company which creates games such as Smite, Paladins, and Realm Royale. The authenticator running in the background is necessary to play the games, and if I try to remove I will run into a whole slew of problems. I have also had this for a long time so the chances that it would cause this problem are highly unlikely.

HP support solutions Framework is for my HP Officejet Printer. This allows for there to be a constant application running in the background checking to see if anything is wrong with the printer. Have also had the printer since I first built my computer so the chances that it would affect it are also low.

Genuinely don't really know what exactly Intel Security Assistant does, but there has always been Intel Corporation process running in the background due to the fact that I have an Intel Processor. I could probably remove some of them if I were to dig deep into my computer files, but just in case I would prefer to keep them there as I don't want anything to happen with my CPU.

I am going to see if disabling CCleaner actually helped and will also mess around with some games that I installed the week of the Steam Boot problem. Feel free to look at the Imgur page again to see if you will find anything new with the (hopefully) clearer pics. I will tell you how this process works out

Thank you again so much for taking the time to help me with my problem, I really appreciate it :D.
Last edited by Craze Ladd; Jan 24, 2019 @ 3:46pm
The Giving One Jan 24, 2019 @ 3:55pm 
That's one of the most detailed and complete replies I have ever seen here. Thanks so much for that. Yes, you need to just be very careful what you disable, and make sure you research what it does before you disable any processes in msconfig, or programs that you consider uninstalling.

When it gets to the point that you have to make 3 or 4 screenshots for services in msconfig, that's a bit much for a gaming system. Sure, you might want to use your computer for things other than gaming, and that's fine, but you just need to be aware of all this stuff running at the same time, and how some of it can maybe even cause issues with Steam and/or games.

I honestly don't see too many that are a confilct from your shots...it's just that it seems you simply have too many running at the same time.

It's just process of elimination, really. Disalbe one or two, reboot, and test the issue again, starting with the biggest suspects (CCleaner, for example).

I also see uTorrent in your list of installed programs, but I don't see it in msconfig as running as of now.

If you run uTorrent with Steam also, that can cause issues maybe. It's listed on the support page linked previously :

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289 [/quote]

Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Clients & File Sharing Software

P2P programs have the potential to consume a large portion of your bandwidth or other system resources if not properly configured. This can prevent connections or traffic that Steam depends on, while also interfering with resources required by games. It is not recommended to have file sharing applications active while you are using Steam.

When was the last time you did a malware scan, enabling all options in the scan, using Malwrebytes ?

I would suggest that you boot into safe mode again (no networking this time as long as Malwarebytes is up to date) and do a scan of your PC with Malwarebytes. Do the most intensive scan you can do, with all options.

Keep at it and feel free to post again, if you need more help. I might as well go ahead and suggest that you make sure all device drivers are fully up to date on your system also. Make sure to compare your currently installed driver versions with those on the official manufacturer's website as the latest version available.
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 5:26pm 
Thanks for the compliment xD. I will try and see if I can decrease the size of the list in msconfig but I genuinely don't think that I will be able to decrease too much without hindering the performance of all of my applications.
I will attempt to try and narrow down the root of the problem by disabling one or two, rebooting it, testing it, and rinse an repeat.

I do have uTorrent but I rarely use it. When I first did install it I ensured that it never ran in the background, because even without me knowing the new information that I now do about how Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Clients & File Sharing Software work, I was clearly able to see that it slowed down most of my processes greatly.

Last time I did a FULL Malwarebytes scan, it ended up like this https://gyazo.com/e601af0b7fda4788bee61ce91e67629f
In case you can't read it, it was 4 hours and 16 minutes long and scanned 1,394,221 files, and this was more than a year ago xD. I will, in fact, do a full scan in safe mode, but I will probably do it once I am out of the house, as it will most likely take around 6 hours... I cri.

As for all of my drivers, I always check to make sure that they are up to date, so that wouldn't be a problem :D
Craze Ladd Jan 24, 2019 @ 5:36pm 
Welp, I just did exactly what I said I would do. I disabled CCleaner on start-up, removed some games that may have caused some problems for steam, and uninstalled all the apps that I said I would uninstall (Bluestacks, Autodesk, etc.).
Something that I didn't realize was that I had around 100gb worth of Autodesk applications all from when I was still using it for school work, so that took me a while to completely uninstall.

After also looking in msconfig and disabling some things that I was 100% I didn't need, I restarted my computer and launched Steam. Steam now officially takes anywhere from 15-20 seconds to start up.

I really can't thank you enough for all of your help. Besides the fact that I was able to fix the Steam boot-up problem, I was also able to learn some new things that could in general help my computer run better. Thanks to you I actually uninstalled applications that I did not have any need of, decreased the amount of power needed to boot my computer by removing some applications from the start-up process, and I was also able to learn how to boot up my computer in safe mode which is just cool all on its own.

Again, thank you and have a wonderful day :D.
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