Blehh..... Oct 26, 2018 @ 10:41pm
Does anyone know how to manually update the trusted roots certificates on a windows xp 64-bit machine?
So I basically apparently need to do this to get games installed and working on the client or else will get the dreaded "An error occured while updating <game> (content servers unreachable)" error

So I followed this article here: http://woshub.com/updating-trusted-root-certificates-in-windows-10/ and used a windows 7 machine to download the roots.sst with the certutil (since this file won't run on a windows xp machine nor exist) and carried over the file onto the XP machine and used updroots roots.sst command and supposedly updated the database, but the client still rejects login and on firefox, kaspersky says the certificates invalid.....

And I've already tried the method of downloading this file: http://ctldl.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cab then extracting the cab file and then right clicking on authroot.stl to install the certificates that way with the "install CTL" dropdown menu

No, I don't want to hear "Oh please just upgrade for god sake!" I wish to live out the remaining days with nostalgia playing on my windows xp machine please.

Yes I've already contacted steam support that's what they've basically said, it was either that or move onto a supported operating system; I also asked for specific instructions on how to update the certificates but they said they could only do it if they had physical access to my computer and then closed the ticket rendering no further replies possible without creating a new ticket to continue the discussion....

So unless I did it incorrectly or there is another step or two that's needed to get this working, please advise.
Last edited by Blehh.....; Oct 26, 2018 @ 10:43pm
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What happens if you set the date of pc back to when it worked?

Dont know what you downloaded and what that changed though.
Blehh..... Oct 26, 2018 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:
What happens if you set the date of pc back to when it worked?

Dont know what you downloaded and what that changed though.
I changed it back to Janurary 2018 which I remember both logging in fine without issues, was able to install and update games fine, but that doesn't work. I have feeling it's to do with the new chat system they've updated the client with or and the new chromium version that supposedly no longer supports windows xp.....which might explain why I can't keep login details through the client once I login which means I won't be able to access anything to do with my profile...

As for firefox and why kaspersky keeps saying the certifiactes are invalid I have no idea, I am running the latest Internet Secuirity Suite 2018, so everything should be updated antivirus wise side, the only other possible cause would be firefox being out of date since I'm running 52.9 ESR 32-bit, and that's the last version (or its equivalent standard counterpart) of firefox supported to run on a windows xp machine....no 64-bit binaries work either, not even the 64-bit binary of 52.9 ESR works because it'd just say it's not a valid win32 program or whatever bla bla... And having a browser outdated might say "Oh this certificate is invalid because it passes our use by date" or something....

So I can't update firefox to the lastest ESR or standard edition....

I haven't used the computer in a while, been only using my windows 7 machine, mainly coz I use that as my daily beater....it's only now that I feel like going back and continuing games I haven't finished that I started on my XP machine, only to find out they no longer work! The DRM-Free games do though, or at least games that are not dependent on the client to run, such as Terraria and Starbound(provided you had preinstalled them before the update), but other games like Borderlands Borderlands 2 and The PreSquel will NOT run even if you start the game using its direct exe file in its game directory...

And I wanted to play soem Borderlands 2.....haven't even finished the game yet! :steamsad: :steamsad: :steamsad: :steamsad:

So yeah, the only thing that HAS changed was just updating the client...oh and updating KIS to 2018 from 2014 I think it was or 2016 thinking that might be the cause of client not working as right or that the browser is being mean, but nope....even the latest edition of the antivirus software does not fix it....
Last edited by Blehh.....; Oct 28, 2018 @ 6:51am
Why cant you play the games on your windows 7? Not sure what nostalgia it keeps in game
Blehh..... Oct 26, 2018 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:
Why cant you play the games on your windows 7? Not sure what nostalgia it keeps in game
Because they were originally installed on the XP machine and had intended to finish them on that ...until I heard about steam removing support for windows xp machine soon, so decided to hastily to get this over and done with....?

The nostalgia is the the interface, the simplicity of it, how it's not so resource intensive, so effectively more responsive than a windows 7 machine using the same specs although that can be debatable of course, because obviously you won't be able to run the 2018 hardware on a windows xp operating system or a 1998 hardware with a windows 7 operating system...oh I suppose you could if you're good at modding and stuff, for example creating a driver or modding an existing driver to work with an older system, because you'll need that or else the new shiny 2018 hardware won't work correctly....unfortunately I'm no good at that so will have to live out hte remaining days like this...or rely on someone else to do the dirty work for me...hee hee...

But anyways, grew up with steam on a windows xp machine and it just feels right, minus the new flat ui system steam has decided to opt for to match the windows 10 systems which I dislike....but I have PixelVision to fix that with.......

I don't know it's just hard to explain otherwise, it's like coming back to an old game you really liked so much after 50 years (not that I'm 50 years old by the way...heh....just a figure of speech...)and you feel this what's the word? euro-something, I know it starts with the letter E, just don't know the word....?.......

I'm sure the same would have had existed when steam decided to cut windows 2000, windows 98SE and ME and even windows 95 before that from working!
Last edited by Blehh.....; Oct 26, 2018 @ 11:24pm
I know what you mean about xp.
But the games and the savepoints work on windows 7 too. So ingame you wont see a difference.
Blehh..... Oct 26, 2018 @ 11:29pm 
euphoric that's it - that's the word! Took while on google...hahahaha...



Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:
I know what you mean about xp.
But the games and the savepoints work on windows 7 too. So ingame you wont see a difference.
Yeah but it just doesn't feel the same because you're running windows 7 base and not windows xp base.....and because I already use windows 7 as my daily beater so don't really feel any different....
Last edited by Blehh.....; Oct 26, 2018 @ 11:32pm
Satoru Oct 28, 2018 @ 6:54am 
You already got your reply

Update to windows 7

Stop bumping your own thread
Last edited by Satoru; Oct 28, 2018 @ 6:55am
Blehh..... Oct 28, 2018 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by Satoru:
You already got your reply

Update to windows 7

Stop bumping your own thread
Did I not specifially ask for NOT such an answer...?
The Giving One Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Boltte:
Did I not specifially ask for NOT such an answer...?
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

General Rules

Do not do any of the following:

Flame or insult other members
Bypass any filters
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Blehh..... Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
Originally posted by Boltte:
Did I not specifially ask for NOT such an answer...?
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

General Rules

Do not do any of the following:

Flame or insult other members
Bypass any filters
Abuse or encourage abuse of the Post Reporting System
Post personally identifiable information (i.e. name, address, email, phone number, etc.)
Bump threads <-----------------------------------------

(snip)
Alright Mr Smarty pants:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1558-AFCM-4577

For the remainder of 2018 Steam will continue to run and to launch games on Windows XP and Windows Vista
...which it currently does not, at least for me.

Oh and the by the way, what did you just do right now?
Last edited by Blehh.....; Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:36am
The Giving One Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:18am 
People are generally more willing to offer to try to help someone that does not basically say :

"My issue is more important than all the others in this forum asking for help right now, so I will just bump my own thread to the top when I need to make it so others will more likely see it, making it go to the top of the forum each time I do."

That is all I was saying. There are others here asking for help also. There is a hardware and OS forum also. Maybe try searching that forum for similar topics using the search feature. Surely someone has posted about this before there, the closer we get to the XP and Vista deadline.
Blehh..... Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by The Giving One:
People are generally more willing to offer to try to help someone that does not basically say :

"My issue is more important than all the others in this forum asking for help right now, so I will just bump my own thread to the top when I need to make it so others will more likely see it, making it go to the top of the forum each time I do."

That is all I was saying. There are others here asking for help also. There is a hardware and OS forum also. Maybe try searching that forum for similar topics using the search feature. Surely someone has posted about this before there, the closer we get to the XP and Vista deadline.
Ah ok fair enough, the vibe I got from you was more of a:

"Sit the hell back down son, and read the rules; you will follow these rules to the T or by gods wrath I will eat you for breakfast!"

I guess I got the wrong impression from you, my bad....

Sure I will check the Hardware and OS forums, thanks....
Satoru Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Boltte:
Originally posted by Satoru:
You already got your reply

Update to windows 7

Stop bumping your own thread
Did I not specifially ask for NOT such an answer...?

Note you not liking the correct answer doesn't mean you didn't get one.

XP is unsupported by MS which is why the trusted root store hasnt been updated in years

The 'fix' for this problem is to upgrade to windows 7/10 because there's no reason to be on XP. You can finish your games fine on other OS.
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