Game that counts as 0 achievements, 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate in steam achievement showcase.

[bron99]

Hello all. As an achievement hunter i meticulously track my own stats and it really annoys me that i have one game that counts as 0 achievements, 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate. I've tried reaching the steam support, but they were clueless and said i should post a thread here, hoping that the steam devs will see it.

First let's prove that such game exists in my stats (all stats are from 20-09-2018). For reference use:

SH: https://steamhunters.com/id/bron99/achievements
Completionist.me: https://completionist.me/steam/profile/76561198073410742
My own spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U4rTGhwOyp30ntVDDC5NMWdTp4zGbZiNg6eGlQTXpOQ

At the moment of writing i have:
On Steam:

- 944,020 achievements in 891 games
- 564 perfect games.
https://i.imgur.com/2OodgDw.png

On external trackers such as SH/c.me i have:

- 969,285 achievements in 988 games
- 654 perfect games
https://i.imgur.com/ZZ0qsZ4.png

So let's make it clear. The difference between trackers/steam is:
- 97 started games
- 25,265 achievements
- 90 perfect games

You may see that's the difference is huge, but that's because of the rules regarding new games. I've kept track of all the games that are not counting for me on steam in my spreadsheet (check both "100% not counting" and "Started not counting" tabs).

I've 100%'ed exactly 90 games that are not counting, so my perfect games count matches. I have started 8 games that are not counting. That means 98 started games. Total achievements from not counting games are:
- 24,816 in 100%'ed
- 449 in started
That means 25,265 achievements in total from games that are not counting. Now let's confront that with initial stats.

- 97 started games vs. - 98 started games
- 25,265 achievements vs. - 25,265 achievements
- 90 perfect games vs. - 90 perfect games

As you can see both "perfect games" count and "achievements" count are in perfect sync. Only difference is in started games, both SH and Completionist are missing one started game, while having perfect achievements/perfect games sync.
Therefore i have one game on steam that counts as:
0 achievements
0% Avg. Game Completion Rate
as proven above.

To further prove my point, lemme use the steam showcase itself. I've copied every game from HTML source code of the steam showcase.

https://pastebin.com/paPQur4P

Exactly 889 apps, even tho there should be 891 started games. 2 games missing you may ask? wasn't i talking about one game? yes, the one app missing is:

The Stanley Parable Demo, which counts in showcase, despite not being selectable.
As a reference use my brother's account.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198326360496
https://i.imgur.com/MvyZGxz.png
https://i.imgur.com/B1FWc1q.png

So that leaves me with 890 app ids i've gotten back from showcase, while the showcase itself is showing 891 started games. Even before steam changes to "trusted, not trusted" games, i had a different Avg. Game Completion Rate between steam/trackers, despite having perfect achievements and perfect games sync.

iirc for a game to count as 0 achievements, 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate it must have gotten all achievements removed at some point. I have no idea what game it might be, hence this topic and my previous tickets. I really want to find out what's the game name, as it might be easy to fix by gaining an achievement in said game. If this game has no new achievements tho, the case my be more difficult :( Hope some steam devs will see that and hopefully my steam showcase can be fixed. Thanks in advance <3

[bron99]

bump, 24 hours no answer :( Maybe anyone knows which games had all their achievements removed at some point?

[Tobschinski]

a popular game that had its achievements completely removed, if I am not mistaken, is Dota 2, have you ever played that?

[bron99]

Originally posted by Tobschinski:

a popular game that had its achievements completely removed, if I am not mistaken, is Dota 2, have you ever played that?

can't be it, never played dota 2

[Teksura]

How many of those games have been removed from the steam store? I'm pretty sure when they are removed, they are no longer counted.

[bron99]

Originally posted by Teksura:

How many of those games have been removed from the steam store? I'm pretty sure when they are removed, they are no longer counted.

That's how valve says it should be, but in reality it's not the case. When a game is removed from steam store, its stats still stay, all achievements are counting.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Some games have "Steam is still learning" on their store page. They don't count towards the total either.

[bron99]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Some games have "Steam is still learning" on their store page. They don't count towards the total either.

:qr:

i know that, hence my spreadsheet. anyway this is not what this thread is about. I have one game that counts as 0 achievements, 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate that i have no idea what it might be. I must have gotten an achievement(s) that later got removed, while new ones were added i believe, making the game count as 0%. It happend somewhere between 2015/2016 i believe, but can't be sure about that, weren't caring about my stats as much as i am right now, back then.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

What game? I'm not going through all those links to find it.

[bron99]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

What game? I'm not going through all those links to find it.

:qr:

i have no clue, hence this topic, i've tried reaching steam support, but they were clueless too. I'm hoping that some steam devs will see this and maybe they can help me out.

[Satoru]

Games that steam is 'still learning' DO NOT COUNT to the total

You likely purchased dozens of trash games that rae no longer listed on steam and thus never crossed the threshold of games that 'count' to the total. Achievmeents/completions. DO NOT COUNT for games steam is 'still learning'

[bron99]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Games that steam is 'still learning' DO NOT COUNT to the total

You likely purchased dozens of trash games that rae no longer listed on steam and thus never crossed the threshold of games that 'count' to the total. Achievmeents/completions. DO NOT COUNT for games steam is 'still learning'

Can you even read? i know about those games, i track all of them in my spreadsheet. As proven with maths above i have a game that COUNTS in my steam achievements showcase as:
- 0 achievements
- 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate
This has happened in past when a game that i got an achievement in, got all (or the all the ones i've gotten) removed and then later at some point got new achievements. I have no idea what that game might be, hence this topic, as i'm trying to find out what it might be. This game is way older than the new "trusted", "not trusted" system, possily have it since 2015/2016.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The system is retroactive though. I have seen a few titles get put on the "learning" list because the sales never exceeded the threshold Valve set.

[bron99]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

The system is retroactive though. I have seen a few titles get put on the "learning" list because the sales never exceeded the threshold Valve set.

:qr:

Don't you understand this has nothing to do with valve's new "learning" system? I had this game counting as 0 achievements, 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate way before this system was released. Possibly since 2015/2016. Let me make this clear.

When a game has "steam is learning" status it DOESN'T count towards the stats in steam showcase. I know that, i track all such games in my spreadsheet. My point is that even though i have a perfect "achievements" and "perfect games" sync between external trackers and steam, my started games differ by 1 and my Avg. Game Completion Rate is different. That's because i have one game on steam that COUNTS as:
- 0 achievements
- 0% Avg. Game Completion Rate

This could happen in the past when a game that i got an achievement(s) in, got them removed (meaning i have no achievements in the game) and then later at some point added new achievemetns (or not added at all, i don't really know that, as steam is full of inconsistencies). Simply getting a new achievement should fix the issue, but the problem is that i have no clue what game that might be, hence this topic.

To further prove the point of such game exsiting, i used the steam achievement showcase itself, just look how many apps i've gotten back and how many i should have got. There are exactly 2 apps less. One of which is The Stanley Parable Demo, which counts in showcase despite being not selectable and the other one is that mysterious game, that i have no idea what it might be.