Help: Sending undetected cheats to the VAC-Developer team?

[schmeling65]

Hello,
I was already looking for some ways to send them some cheats which are still undetected (over years now...). Me and my friend sent mails to the given mail, but as I can see, people which use ths hack now for weeks, are still not banned (I don't call names or profiles, all I know is: They use it and don't get banned).

The other way would be over the steam support which was possible in the past (when, I don't know). Now I can't find a topic where I can put in these informations.

I guess I am also able to give the binaries of these cheats, but for that I need to know which data format (.extension).

Would be nice if some people could help in this case so FINALY some or many cheats can be banned.

[Behind you❓❗シ]

How do I report a new cheat?

If you know of a new cheat, especially private cheats (ones that aren't on a public website), and can provide the links or the actual binaries, please send an email with pertinent information to the following email address:

[e-mail]

All emails are read and reviewed by the VAC development team.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869&l=#report

[schmeling65]

... reread my post

"Me and my friend sent mails to the given mail, but as I can see, people which use ths hack now for weeks, are still not banned (I don't call names or profiles, all I know is: They use it and don't get banned)."

We sent the Kevintrainer v2 and Aesir cheats. BOTH are still not banned! We sent it via THIS mail to them at... puh... january? maybe even december, I can't remember anymore correctly, but I know it was some time ago.

[The Giving One]

VAC bans are delayed, and can possibly be delayed for weeks. There is a VAC discussion forum also, just in case you were not aware.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/

Does VAC work?

Reality: The simple fact is, for all intents and purposes VAC does work. Even community measured metrics show that[steamdb.info], relative to the growth of Steam and the popular games, so have the amount of cheat bans. The real number is likely even bigger.

For further discussion please see this thread:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/1621726179584501164/

[The Giving One]

VAC only bans for identifiable cheats. I don't see how you can say you "know for sure" these people are using a certain cheat.

Unless you are there with them 24/7, sitting right beside them all the time, from using a brand new computer and installing said cheat firsthand for the first time.

And even then, there are other ways for an account to earn a VAC ban, than the rightful user cheating.

[schmeling65]

As I know the Kevintrainer v2 has as the only cheat the option to do strafes... It just looks so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wired. If you try a side jump a round a corner, you do a dolphine dive in this direction you jumped meanwhile you look 90° to the side you wanted to look.

It is just strange.

Also the kevintrainer has invisability as well as server host controll to set everything, and a teleport function. I got coded by Lililatex, if you know the name.

Aesir cheats is easy to see because if it gets activated written chat messages are comming like "... got killed by .... with ..." and that get spammed.

Other hacks are more rare; I already played with some with these hackers. They coded it on their own. Their use is totaly different to the two named tools.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by schmeling65:

As I know the Kevintrainer v2 has as the only cheat the option to do strafes... It just looks so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wired. If you try a side jump a round a corner, you do a dolphine dive in this direction you jumped meanwhile you look 90° to the side you wanted to look.

It is just strange.

Also the kevintrainer has invisability as well as server host controll to set everything, and a teleport function. I got coded by Lililatex, if you know the name.

Aesir cheats is easy to see because if it gets activated written chat messages are comming like "... got killed by .... with ..." and that get spammed.

Other hacks are more rare; I already played with some with these hackers. They coded it on their own. Their use is totaly different to the two named tools.

That does not mean that you know the exact cheat code they are using. There is no way you can know for sure.

Sometimes, it is as simple as editing one or two lines fo code on the same cheat, then that cheat can be redistributed and is not currently known to VAC as identifiable.

To be more sure as to not ban accounts by mistake, this is one reason why VAC only bans for identifiable cheets. VAC and Valve want to be sure the cheat is in fact a cheat, and not ban players by mistake.

The other side of this is yes, cheaters go free for longer. There is no perfect anticheat system. It does not exist. But at least you are trying to report the cheats, and that is a good thing and appreciated.

It's a constant cat and mouse game. The thread I linked above has some great stuff on VACnet, that you may find interesting.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by schmeling65:

For your information: The stuff/game I am talking about is COD MW3. So the servers are NOT from Valve (keep that in mind because of "data which is sent in a reduced amount"-part.

COD:MW3 *IS* VAC enabled. If you're not playing on VAC enabled servers then 1. why not? and 2. then report it to Actiblizzard and 3. play on VAC enabled servers.

[schmeling65]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Originally posted by schmeling65:

For your information: The stuff/game I am talking about is COD MW3. So the servers are NOT from Valve (keep that in mind because of "data which is sent in a reduced amount"-part.

COD:MW3 *IS* VAC enabled. If you're not playing on VAC enabled servers then 1. why not? and 2. then report it to Actiblizzard and 3. play on VAC enabled servers.

... I'm thinking about answering it... but how... ah yeah!
Read the threats which were sent by given by "The Giving one"! Then you know why I wrote that!

In this Case you shouldn't have written anything because your Knowledge isn't high enough for telling ME something about MW3 and Servers!

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by schmeling65:

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

COD:MW3 *IS* VAC enabled. If you're not playing on VAC enabled servers then 1. why not? and 2. then report it to Actiblizzard and 3. play on VAC enabled servers.

... I'm thinking about answering it... but how... ah yeah!
Read the threats which were sent by given by "The Giving one"! Then you know why I wrote that!

In this Case you shouldn't have written anything because your Knowledge isn't high enough for telling ME something about MW3 and Servers!

Store page for COD:MW3 lists its features to include "Valve Anti-Cheat enabled" right on the store page.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/115300/Call_of_Duty_Modern_Warfare_3/

There is a VAC FAQ thread literally pinned at the very top of the COD:MW3 Steam discussion forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/42690/discussions/0/540739405757612096/

The game is VAC enabled.

[schmeling65]

WOW YOU DON'T SAY... and now read the threats and what I wrote... or do I have to write that here as well because you are not able to read that.

I KNOW THAT MW3 IS VAC ENABLED!!!
BUT THE SERVERS ARE NOT FROM VALVE!!!
-> NO "REDUCED AMOUNT OF DATA SENT"...


*Knock Knock Knock*


Hopefully you got it now...

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by schmeling65:

WOW YOU DON'T SAY... and now read the threats and what I wrote... or do I have to write that here as well because you are not able to read that.

I KNOW THAT MW3 IS VAC ENABLED!!!
BUT THE SERVERS ARE NOT FROM VALVE!!!
-> NO "REDUCED AMOUNT OF DATA SENT"...

*Knock Knock Knock*

Hopefully you got it now...

Your passive-aggressive outbursts are cute but what you need to understand is that what you're saying makes no sense.

You just said, "-> NO REDUCED AMOUNT OF DATA SENT..."

What you're saying is that there is no reduction in the amount of data being sent, not to mention you're leaving out some very important context.

I understand that English is not your first language but typing things in ALLCAPS and adding exclamation points won't make what you're saying make more sense.

If you are using Google Translate, then it is not working. Perhaps, it would be better if you posted your issue in your native language. Also, getting all angsty and huffy at everyone doesn't help much either.

You asked how to send cheat binaries to the developers and then you claim you already sent them. You already know the email address so what do you expect anyone here to tell you? Some super secret email address?

[Behind you❓❗シ]

Originally posted by schmeling65:

...

I KNOW THAT MW3 IS VAC ENABLED!!!
BUT THE SERVERS ARE NOT FROM VALVE!!!
-> NO "REDUCED AMOUNT OF DATA SENT"...


*Knock Knock Knock*

First off, MW3 public matchmaking uses so called "listening servers" only (like most CoD titles since MW2). To make it clear: You don't play on servers. One player is picked by the game engine to act as host for all other players in that lobby.

Will Modern Warfare 3 have Dedicated Servers?

Yes! Modern Warfare 3 supported matchmaking as well as Dedicated Servers, allowing players to find and filter via an in-game server browser or set-up their own Dedicated Server for complete control, without being restricted by any 3rd party hosting requirements. If looking for a Dedicated Server to join, if you choose not to set up your own, you can filter and favorite by Ping, Map, Gametype, Hardcore Variants, Voice, Password, and many other options.

Are Dedicated Servers Ranked or UnRanked?

Only matchmaking to public games are Ranked (meaning, you have to rank up to unlock weapons to rank on the leaderboards), choosing to play on a Dedicated Server is UnRanked. Meaning unlocks are completely controlled by the Server Admin. They can choose to unlock everything or limit class restrictions to whatever they like to fully customize the experience. You do not have to rank up in Public games to have access to weapons in Dedicated Servers, you have complete control over what is unlocked for you in a Unranked Dedicated Server.
https://community.callofduty.com/t5/Modern-Warfare-3-Forum/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-3-PC-Exclusive-Information-FAQ/td-p/48641


There are no servers in MW3 public ranked matchmaking and never been.
In case you want to know more about the client based network model system that Activision used on MW2, MW3, Ghosts, Advanced Warfare, BlackOps 3, Infinite Warfare, Word War II you can check out this pretty good vid that explains the basics on netcode in video games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHP0N-jMx8
(check out "server type" at 11:00)


Also both cheats that you named are not new.
One is from 2012 the other one from 2016 and both cheats are detectable. I got 100+ banned steam accounts in my MW3sa Ban List that got banned (sooner or later) over the years for exact these two cheat sw. Whenever I see this cheats in a lobby and check out their steam profile its either with low play hrs. on record in MW3 or set on complete private.

Beside, as you might now Activision is not known for taking care of their "old products".
So do what makes the most sense, report the cheats via their steam profile and move on...
It is not worth the annoyance, even MW3 is one of the best CoD ever