OK to run Microsoft Security Essentials and Norton together ?

[mbutton15]

I was previously running only Microsoft Security Essentials, when it started giving messages that it had stopped running. I went the a PC shop who advised running a malware check (which came back clean). I then put Norton on and that picked up one virus and safely removed it.

Since them I have both Microsoft Security Essentials and Norton running together. It that OK ? Not sure how to proceed ?

[Blargo]

Having multiple antivirus/antimalware applications running will slow down your system, but other than that, nothing bad will happen.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

IMHO Norton is basically snake oil, which is no better than some of the free anti virus provides.
If you want a good scanner, get malwarebytes, that be one good one to have, you can use it to scan whenever you want for free, if you want it to be realtime scanner that checks 24/7 then a subscription is needed, but it's up to you.

For years I find Norton as a joke, as they fail to do what they were made to do back in the late 90s, then years later they finally update it to do what it suppose to do but was still one of the worse Anti Virus out the market, as free antiviurs were doing better protection than it, it took them over decade to make it somewhat a decent antivirus as of it today, but if you want a good one, then don't look towards them, they're not much better than some of those free antivirus, and that's the truth about Norton, I would suggestion IMHO not waste a single penny on Norton.

[Ogami]

Honestly, according to most recent articles i read, Windows Defender is now on the same level as all the free Antivirus programs and even on par with some of the paid ones.
You dont really need anything else in most cases.
I am only on Windows Defender for a year or so now, and did not had a single infection so far.
I scan with Malwarebyes about once a month and so far Windows Defender seems to do a good job.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Personally, I like SecureAnywhere. It never nags you unless there is a virus stopped. It is cloud based so the install in small and uses little overhead and best of all, it is VERY game friendly.
I have tried most of the big name AV and most are hogs that frequently interrupt you. SecureAnywhere is different than anything I have used before. Look around, it is cheap.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Honestly, according to most recent articles i read, Windows Defender is now on the same level as all the free Antivirus programs and even on par with some of the paid ones.
You dont really need anything else in most cases.
I am only on Windows Defender for a year or so now, and did not had a single infection so far.
I scan with Malwarebyes about once a month and so far Windows Defender seems to do a good job.

Exactly. Don't need more than one scanner, and Windows Defender is basically enough, heck I say you only have to scan with Malwarebyes when you think you might have something, that can basically be once every few months, or once a year depending what you do on the system.

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Honestly, according to most recent articles i read, Windows Defender is now on the same level as all the free Antivirus programs and even on par with some of the paid ones.
You dont really need anything else in most cases.
I am only on Windows Defender for a year or so now, and did not had a single infection so far.
I scan with Malwarebyes about once a month and so far Windows Defender seems to do a good job.

Exactly. Don't need more than one scanner, and Windows Defender is basically enough, heck I say you only have to scan with Malwarebyes when you think you might have something, that can basically be once every few months, or once a year depending what you do on the system.

The only problem with Malwarebyes free scanner, is it only works after you are infected. The best option is to stop it before you are infected.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by TheMasterBlaster™:

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Exactly. Don't need more than one scanner, and Windows Defender is basically enough, heck I say you only have to scan with Malwarebyes when you think you might have something, that can basically be once every few months, or once a year depending what you do on the system.

The only problem with Malwarebyes free scanner, is it only works after you are infected. The best option is to stop it before you are infected.

If you want a real time scanner, then you get a subscription, as the free version is not a real time scanner. The best option is to get a antivirus with a real time scanner if you want to try and stop it, most good ones are under a subscription for real time scanners.

[mbutton15]

I guess from my experience then Microsoft Security Essentials wasn't good enough to block whatever attack there was. Malewarebytes (free-trial) wasn't good enough to detect the virus once it was on there. Norton detected and quarantined it. So looks like I should continue with Norton.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by mbutton15:

I guess from my experience then Microsoft Security Essentials wasn't good enough to block whatever attack there was. Malewarebytes (free-trial) wasn't good enough to detect the virus once it was on there. Norton detected and quarantined it. So looks like I should continue with Norton.

I recommend check what exactly it quarantined. Also side note, if something was already been removed, other anti virus won't be able to detect it as it already been removed.

I do recommend enable rootkit in Malewarebytes, before starting the scan.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Originally posted by mbutton15:

I guess from my experience then Microsoft Security Essentials wasn't good enough to block whatever attack there was. Malewarebytes (free-trial) wasn't good enough to detect the virus once it was on there. Norton detected and quarantined it. So looks like I should continue with Norton.

I recommend check what exactly it quarantined. Also side note, if something was already been removed, other anti virus won't be able to detect it as it already been removed.

I do recommend enable rootkit in Malewarebytes, before starting the scan.

Yeah, I understand that something won't be found once it's quarantined. But I ran Malewarebytes before I even put on Norton.

It says it quarantined something called dmJOSWyq.js.part

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by mbutton15:

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

I recommend check what exactly it quarantined. Also side note, if something was already been removed, other anti virus won't be able to detect it as it already been removed.

I do recommend enable rootkit in Malewarebytes, before starting the scan.

Yeah, I understand that something won't be found once it's quarantined. But I ran Malewarebytes before I even put on Norton.

It says it quarantined something called dmJOSWyq.js.part

Well that somekind of javascript, either downloaded it from somewhere, or you install something that use java, or visit some website that use java. Does it say where it was from on your system?

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Well that somekind of javascript, either downloaded it from somewhere, or you install something that use java, or visit some website that use java. Does it say where it was from on your system?

It says it found it in my AppData\Local\Temp folder.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by mbutton15:

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Well that somekind of javascript, either downloaded it from somewhere, or you install something that use java, or visit some website that use java. Does it say where it was from on your system?

It says it found it in my AppData\Local\Temp folder.

Then I can assume it might have been from website you've visited on your browser that still use java, possible facebook games, or etc.

If you have any doubts about any files on your system, you can try this site, and it does give you breakdown what the file threat may be if it was scanned to be for something.
https://www.virustotal.com/

[SenMithrarin85]

norton is almost entirely cloud based now, so if your net goes down and you're infected, then bam goes 90% of your virus definitions.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

norton is almost entirely cloud based now, so if your net goes down and you're infected, then bam goes 90% of your virus definitions.

But then if the net is down then I'n not gonna be picking up a virus from a website anyway ?