8gb ram enough for modern games?

[dklee1102]

Will 8gb of ram suffice for games like assassin's creed origins if I'm going for ultra settings (i7 4770k and gtx 1070 ti)? If not, how much will it affect my fps in game?

[The Giving One]

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 (64-bit versions only)
Processor: Intel Core i7- 3770 @ 3.5 GHz or AMD FX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 or AMD R9 280X (3GB VRAM with Shader Model 5.0 or better)
Storage: 42 GB available space
Additional Notes: Video Preset: High (1080p)

Those are the recommended specs from the store page for Assassin's Creed Origins.

The 4770k without Turbo runs right at 3.5 and you have the recommended specs covered otherwise.

https://ark.intel.com/products/75123/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

I don't see why you can't easily get a solid 60 FPS out of it with those specs. and on ultra.

This covers the game you mentioned in the OP, but you cannot compare game A to game B like you seem to be. You have to look at the store page specs. That is what matters.

Also, performance is not only about hardware. Software can negatively affect performance also, if it runs and causes issues with games/Steam.

Newer games are becoming more and more demanding as far as RAM goes, but 'mostly', 8 GB is still pretty good for most current games.

EDIT..This depends on what resolution your display is of course, and the refresh rate. You won't see more than 60 FPS on a 60 Hz display, for example.

[dklee1102]

Oh yeah, I have a 1080p 144hz monitor, so I don't think I have any problems there. Also, will overclocking my CPU help at all? I'm watercooling my CPU with an h100i without any overclocks :/ Thanks for taking the time to help me!

[The Giving One]

For the game you mentioned above, overclocking won't do anything as the 4770K already turbos to 3.9 which is well over the recommended for that game. CPU speed is not really about graphical performance anyway, really.

I don't see why you would need to overclock it with that game. If there is a game that recommends 4.0 or higher on an Intel CPU somehow, I might consider it but otherwise, you can set Windows to run at maximum performance and just let the 4770k run at 3.9 all the time while gaming.

You can just use a custom power plan in Windows, in other words, and run at 3.9 all the time for games. But if the game does not really benefit from the increased speed of the CPU, why do it anyway, is my thinking.

That's not an issue if you have water cooling at all. I personally don't overclock my hardware, but that's just me. Sometimes, even a stable overclock can cause issues with some games.

[dklee1102]

Thank you so much for the help! Hats off to you sir!

[The Giving One]

Thank you also and good luck. If you want to discuss hardware tweaks and optimizations and such, these guys in this forum can give it to you straight and on the level....

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/

That forum is for Hardware and operating system related topics. So I would post there about overclocking, if you wish.

Take care for now.

[Seven7]

W7 use 800Mb
W8 use 2Gb
W10 use 4Gb
now calculate how much memory is left for the game in the case of different OSes

[Omega]

8gb is still enough for most games but not all. Some games like Just Cause 3 can use up to 11gb of RAM or even more.

[Start_Running]

6gb for system. No less than 4gb for you gpu

[tacoshy]

Originally posted by The Giving One:

For the game you mentioned above, overclocking won't do anything as the 4770K already turbos to 3.9 which is well over the recommended for that game. CPU speed is not really about graphical performance anyway, really.

I don't see why you would need to overclock it with that game. If there is a game that recommends 4.0 or higher on an Intel CPU somehow, I might consider it but otherwise, you can set Windows to run at maximum performance and just let the 4770k run at 3.9 all the time while gaming.

You can just use a custom power plan in Windows, in other words, and run at 3.9 all the time for games. But if the game does not really benefit from the increased speed of the CPU, why do it anyway, is my thinking.

That's not an issue if you have water cooling at all. I personally don't overclock my hardware, but that's just me. Sometimes, even a stable overclock can cause issues with some games.

I really like you The Giving One, but about that particular comment I wanna cut in as that is my speciality.

1st at all the major mistake is, to compare clock rate at all as they are nearly meaningless. A good smartphone already has 8x 2.5GHz CPU's but they dont even get 5% of an Desktop CPU as it isnt only about cores and clockrates but mostly to the IPC.
It is like comparing a nuclear submarine engine to a sport car engine just by looking at the RPM. In that case would the sport car engine be stronger then the nuclear engine of a submarine which we all know, isnt true.

Also Turbo Boost @ 3.9 GHz isnt the same as OC @ 3.9 GHZ. Turbo Boost works differently. It disables cores (idles them to be exact) and transfer their TDP to another core. That means the other core is allowed to run hotter as the overall heat production stays the same. So Turbo Boost deactivates core to auto OC other cores and @ 3.9 GHz you only left with 1 working core.
OC however does not transfer TDP it raises the TDP limit and OC all cores. SO you would run with 4 cores @ 3.9 GHz or higher or lower depending on silion lottery.

OC does actually mostly improve the FPS and Frametimes as a faster CPU can provide the needed core data for the GPU faster. But to OC you need a really good cooling solution to handle all the extra heat and you need to know what you are doing. At my primary group you can find a guide for this there.


Back to the original questions. There is no game on the market that does require more then 8 GB RAM but there are also many games incl AC:O which would profit from mroe then 8 GB RAM. But same story, it is not just about the ammount of RAM but also about its speed and the drive it needs to get the data from. In the end for gaming 16 GB RAM can often makre in AAA titles a smoother gameplay and you should be issue/worry free.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by tacoshy:

I really like you The Giving One, but about that particular comment I wanna cut in as that is my speciality.

1st at all the major mistake is, to compare clock rate at all as they are nearly meaningless. A good smartphone already has 8x 2.5GHz CPU's but they dont even get 5% of an Desktop CPU as it isnt only about cores and clockrates but mostly to the IPC.
It is like comparing a nuclear submarine engine to a sport car engine just by looking at the RPM. In that case would the sport car engine be stronger then the nuclear engine of a submarine which we all know, isnt true.

Also Turbo Boost @ 3.9 GHz isnt the same as OC @ 3.9 GHZ. Turbo Boost works differently. It disables cores (idles them to be exact) and transfer their TDP to another core. That means the other core is allowed to run hotter as the overall heat production stays the same. So Turbo Boost deactivates core to auto OC other cores and @ 3.9 GHz you only left with 1 working core.
OC however does not transfer TDP it raises the TDP limit and OC all cores. SO you would run with 4 cores @ 3.9 GHz or higher or lower depending on silion lottery.

OC does actually mostly improve the FPS and Frametimes as a faster CPU can provide the needed core data for the GPU faster. But to OC you need a really good cooling solution to handle all the extra heat and you need to know what you are doing. At my primary group you can find a guide for this there.


Back to the original questions. There is no game on the market that does require more then 8 GB RAM but there are also many games incl AC:O which would profit from mroe then 8 GB RAM. But same story, it is not just about the ammount of RAM but also about its speed and the drive it needs to get the data from. In the end for gaming 16 GB RAM can often makre in AAA titles a smoother gameplay and you should be issue/worry free.

Hey, thanks for correcting me and schooling me some with your kind and informative post. This is what I expect from my fellow brothers and sisters on Steam, to be corrected and/or informed with the right information if and when I am ever wrong or innocently misleading about something.

I appreciate all that and the kind way in which you did it. I have seen a game or two that "recommended" 16 GB, but as far as minimum being over 8 GB on Steam, I can't say I have seen one as of yet, very true.

Thanks again, and sorry if anything I said was misleading to the OP.

[YEEHAWW i need yes]

8GB is okay for most games, 16GB is what people commonly put in their systems. Your current rig should have no issues running that game. You don't fully need 16GB but it's for a more smooth experience overall.