Anti-Virus blocked a game I just purchased and downloaded from Steam Marketplace.

[Sinister Stranger]

Browsing my Wishlist and saw a couple of them on sale. This game was 50% off so I picked it up. It was a really small install and then my AV (Norton) blocked the Launcher.exe of the game I just downloaded.

http://prnt.sc/euzxvi

http://prnt.sc/euzyw3


This has never happened before, it seems like a false positive and I've also heard Norton is a bit of a more "active" AV, especially if it's a free trial, which in my PC's case, it is. This PC is new and has the Norton Free Trial on it.

[mimizukari]

uninstall norton. it's a ♥♥♥♥ tier anti-virus that picks up lots of false positives, and very low day 1 protection, use MBAM and kaspersky/bitdefender instead.

[Sinister Stranger]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

uninstall norton. it's a ♥♥♥♥ tier anti-virus that picks up lots of false positives.

Oh don't worry I know. Only reason I haven't yet is because last PC I un-installed it on left a big scar. Made my day ♥♥♥♥.

New SS: http://prnt.sc/euzyw3

[mimizukari]

trojan just means it creates more files on launch or while running, games need to create files such as things they put in ur documents or other files it needs to run, even steam would be considered a trojan. you see why norton is bad? unless they whitelist every little thing it's ♥♥♥♥, it can't tell from safe trojans and unsafe trojans. use the other ones I listed :P

[Sinister Stranger]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

trojan just means it creates more files on launch or while running, games need to create files such as things they put in ur documents or other files it needs to run, even steam would be considered a trojan. you see why norton is bad? unless they whitelist every little thing it's ♥♥♥♥, it can't tell from safe trojans and unsafe trojans. use the other ones I listed :P

As I said, I know it's a terrible AV, I just never took the time to get a new one, but now is the best time of all. I used Avast! on my other PC and it worked fine but now I think I'm going to pay for something instead of using free AV that isn't 100%.

[Elite911]

Bitdefender is rated #1 on some anti-virus review sites. They have a 30 day free trial on their products.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by sK|Elite|A*A*|:

Bitdefender is rated #1 on some anti-virus review sites. They have a 30 day free trial on their products.

yep. bitdefender and kaspersky are about equal there. but in addition to one of those you also need malwarebytes anti-malware for full protection.

[Sinister Stranger]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

Originally posted by sK|Elite|A*A*|:

Bitdefender is rated #1 on some anti-virus review sites. They have a 30 day free trial on their products.

yep. bitdefender and kaspersky are about equal there. but in addition to those you also need malwarebytes anti-malware for full protection.

I also had malwarebytes on my other PC but it was the free trail which ran out lol. I never worried about AV since I don't do anything malicious on my PC like go on pron or shady downloads but I might invest since I can afford it now lol

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Cobalt:

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

yep. bitdefender and kaspersky are about equal there. but in addition to those you also need malwarebytes anti-malware for full protection.

I also had malwarebytes on my other PC but it was the free trail which ran out lol. I never worried about AV since I don't do anything malicious on my PC like go on pron or shady downloads but I might invest since I can afford it now lol

regardless of what you do, sites can be hijacked, trusted programs can have viruses pushed out by malicious sources/etc. better safe than sorry. especially if your machine cost $1k+

[Sinister Stranger]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

Originally posted by Cobalt:

I also had malwarebytes on my other PC but it was the free trail which ran out lol. I never worried about AV since I don't do anything malicious on my PC like go on pron or shady downloads but I might invest since I can afford it now lol

regardless of what you do, sites can be hijacked, trusted programs can have viruses pushed out by malicious sources/etc. better safe than sorry. especially if your machine cost $1k+

True. This PC was like 6x more then my old one, I've been trying to take care of it better. I should look around and look at what was mentioned for AV. I knew Norton wouldn't be good to keep, just thought I'd ride out the free trial lol

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Cobalt:

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

regardless of what you do, sites can be hijacked, trusted programs can have viruses pushed out by malicious sources/etc. better safe than sorry. especially if your machine cost $1k+

True. This PC was like 6x more then my old one, I've been trying to take care of it better. I should look around and look at what was mentioned for AV. I knew Norton wouldn't be good to keep, just thought I'd ride out the free trial lol

norton and mcafee may as well be malware themselves

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

uninstall norton. it's a ♥♥♥♥ tier anti-virus that picks up lots of false positives, and very low day 1 protection, use MBAM and kaspersky/bitdefender instead.

This...this right here.

Not to mention child processes of Norton such as Norton Online Backup, among others, that can conflict with Steam.

Norton hates Steam. It's on the list.....

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9828-SFLZ-9289

Some say they would rather have a real virus on their systems over Norton.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/135508284745669639/?tscn=1486325012#c135508284745775689
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/348292957936793818/?tscn=1476505156#c348293073006152613
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/392183857628513359/#c392184289304621591
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/458607518209700397/?tscn=1453942737#c458607518210063348
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/392184289304843029/?tscn=1458633705#c392184342868920447
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/135508284745669639/?ctp=2#c135508292188750093
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/135508398035252595/?tscn=1486512443#c135508398035441848

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Cobalt:

I think I'm going to pay for something instead of using free AV that isn't 100%.

Nothing detection based is 100%.

Its funny how the price is part of the reputation of an antivirus.

[Kargor]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by Cobalt:

I think I'm going to pay for something instead of using free AV that isn't 100%.

Nothing detection based is 100%.

Its funny how the price is part of the reputation of an antivirus.

Not at all. Commercial AV programs need to "deliver" by constantly telling the user they have just prevented a devastating attack. This is why back in the day, even a "personal firewall" would report something like a ping.

Commercial AV programs tend to complain about everything, and don't mind false positives all that much as they can always get away with excuses that they have this extremely powerful detection engine that just might pick up on some odd behavior of some software.

A free product doesn't need to constantly remind the user that they have made the best investment in their live. They can focus on actual problems -- so ideally, users should never even notice that they still have this program. For a commercial program, this is not an option at all -- if users don't see the program eliminating threats left and right, they might not refresh their license next year.

[Peter Brev]

I never thought Norton would've kept doing things like false positives nowadays.

I don't know if anyone had the atrocious experience 10 to 12 years ago where Norton would go out of their way to create false malware that only their antivirus could detect for the sole purpose of getting people to install their software.

I also remember why I said I would never purchase or even download any product from Symantec anymore.

I had a computer -- a Sony Vaio computer -- that I still have, which I bought somewhere around 2001, and came bundled with bloatware I didn't care. One of them being Norton. One day, out of the blue, the computer wouldn't load Windows anymore. Now, being younger than I was today, I thought I might've been a fool and installed a virus without paying attention on what I was doing with Internet Explorer back in the day; only to find out a few months later, randomly, that Norton bricked systems by deleting system32 files since it detected them as malware. Had I known better, I would've deleted that software a long time ago.

The computer came bundled with a recovery disk, but upon reinstalling Windows, I just had the thing back again, with all the bloatware. Attempting to remove Norton proved to be harder than it should've been. This is why I simply bought a copy of Windows XP on Amazon and clean formatted the computer to make sure it was gone. From that day, I never installed a product from Symantec.

Norton might have improved from the early 2000s, but not enough apparently.

I do have Avast! with Malwarebytes, Hitman Pro, SUPERAntiSpyware, and a few others to analyse my computer on demand.

So, I might be hating on Norton, but I hate them for a good reason. Stay away from it.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Kargor:

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Nothing detection based is 100%.

Its funny how the price is part of the reputation of an antivirus.

Not at all. Commercial AV programs need to "deliver" by constantly telling the user they have just prevented a devastating attack. This is why back in the day, even a "personal firewall" would report something like a ping.

Commercial AV programs tend to complain about everything, and don't mind false positives all that much as they can always get away with excuses that they have this extremely powerful detection engine that just might pick up on some odd behavior of some software.

A free product doesn't need to constantly remind the user that they have made the best investment in their live. They can focus on actual problems -- so ideally, users should never even notice that they still have this program. For a commercial program, this is not an option at all -- if users don't see the program eliminating threats left and right, they might not refresh their license next year.

Same goes for the reports those companies make public.
And when you see what new "necessary features" they build in their programs, you cant believe how human mankind survived at all up to that point.

Then suddenly when such a new feature didnt protect you, but instead ENABLED a malware attack to happen to you without own interaction at all, it gets finally absurd.