You CAN get permanently BANNED and lose ALL GAMES in your account???

[Tazor]

http://www.geek.com/games/steam-proves-we-dont-own-the-games-we-buy-1464093/

That would be like walking into a store I bought tens of games from. For no apaprent reason I lose my ♥♥♥♥ and yell curses and insults at everyone there, employees included. I will most likely get banned from the store and get a small fine.

But to come over to my place and forcefully take all the games I bought from that particular store (but only that store) while being perfectly legal???

GOG for example doesn't do this. You buy the game, download, install, play. Whatever you do, they CAN NOT take away the games already on your computer.

[The Giving One]

As others said, they don't "usually" take away your ability to play the currently owned games on the account, but they COULD if they wanted to and in a bad enough case, depending on what happened.

[Tazor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

[OmSuga]

why ?

[The Giving One]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

And when you installed that game, there was still terms of use and agreements. Do you not remember them ?

[shiel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

And clicked "I agree" when you got to the agreement without reading I suppose? This is nothing new.

Edit: ninja'd by TGO :P

[Forcen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

It still works like that on Steam. When you go in to a store and buy it they might call the cops and get the game back if you did a chargeback. They might also ban you from using the store again.
They won't take games from you that you actually paid for, just like steam.

[Tazor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

And when you installed that game, there was still terms of use and agreements. Do you not remember them ?

Yes there were. Basically, "don't use 99% of the game assets in order to make a clone and sell it without our permission". That was pretty much the worst of it.

None of the "We will come over to your house and take your game if we feel like it".

[Tazor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Forcen:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

It still works like that on Steam. When you go in to a store and buy it they might call the cops and get the game back if you did a chargeback. They might also ban you from using the store again.
They won't take games from you that you actually paid for, just like steam.

So the bans are issued only for illegal purchases?

[The Giving One]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Yes there were. Basically, "don't use 99% of the game assets in order to make a clone and sell it without our permission". That was pretty much the worst of it.

None of the "We will come over to your house and take your game if we feel like it".

Please, that is totally inflamatory here. No one said they were coming over and taking your games away. That is nonsense.

[Dr. Fronkensteen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

I need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lawyer to buy video games. Back in my day I walked into a store, picked a game from the shelf, paid for it and done.

Ignorance of the facts doesnt change anything. Those same games you bought 'back in the day' had the same legalese attached to them.

[Forcen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Forcen:

It still works like that on Steam. When you go in to a store and buy it they might call the cops and get the game back if you did a chargeback. They might also ban you from using the store again.
They won't take games from you that you actually paid for, just like steam.

So the bans are issued only for illegal purchases?

The russian guy in the story that the story you linked referenced was just banned from the store and trading.

[Tazor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Yes there were. Basically, "don't use 99% of the game assets in order to make a clone and sell it without our permission". That was pretty much the worst of it.

None of the "We will come over to your house and take your game if we feel like it".

Please, that is totally inflamatory here. No one said they were coming over and taking your games away. That is nonsense.

Then why did that Steam user in the article get permanently banned with ALL his games disabled? Unbanned only after a wave of negative PR towards Steam.

[Forcen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Giving One:

Please, that is totally inflamatory here. No one said they were coming over and taking your games away. That is nonsense.

Then why did that Steam user in the article get permanently banned with ALL his games disabled? Unbanned only after a wave of negative PR towards Steam.

Because you misread the text.

[Tazor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Forcen:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Then why did that Steam user in the article get permanently banned with ALL his games disabled? Unbanned only after a wave of negative PR towards Steam.

Because you misread the text.

Quote "If your account is banned, you can’t login and play your games. All that money you spent on tens, or even hundreds of titles doesn’t count for anything."

[Snapjak]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tazor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Forcen:

Because you misread the text.

Quote "If your account is banned, you can’t login and play your games. All that money you spent on tens, or even hundreds of titles doesn’t count for anything."

Read the actual article and not the crappy Slowtaku-esque blurb.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/01/thought-do-we-own-our-steam-games/