You CAN get permanently BANNED and lose ALL GAMES in your account???

[Tazor]

http://www.geek.com/games/steam-proves-we-dont-own-the-games-we-buy-1464093/

That would be like walking into a store I bought tens of games from. For no apaprent reason I lose my ♥♥♥♥ and yell curses and insults at everyone there, employees included. I will most likely get banned from the store and get a small fine.

But to come over to my place and forcefully take all the games I bought from that particular store (but only that store) while being perfectly legal???

GOG for example doesn't do this. You buy the game, download, install, play. Whatever you do, they CAN NOT take away the games already on your computer.

[The Giving One]

You don't own any games on Steam. You have licenses to use the content and services as agreed upon.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

Violate the agreement, and they can suspend the account.....permanently.

[Snapjak]

You own exactly zero games unless you develop them yourself or you pay millions of dollars.

You own a license to use them. Even with GOG. GOG and the companies that use it know that they can't reasonably force you to stop using them.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by The Giving One:

You don't own any games on Steam. You have licenses to use the content and services as agreed upon.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

Violate the agreement, and they can suspend the account.....permanently.

Lovely. Glad I stumbled onto that old article. One more reason to...you know.

[Silicon Vampire]

that is over 5 years old. what is your point?

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by The Giving One:

You don't own any games on Steam. You have licenses to use the content and services as agreed upon.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

Violate the agreement, and they can suspend the account.....permanently.

Lovely. Glad I stumbled onto that old article. One more reason to...you know.

What is the big deal ?

Just don't violate the agreement and always follow the rules, and you are golden. No problem.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Snapjak:

You own exactly zero games unless you develop them yourself or you pay millions of dollars.

You own a license to use them. Even with GOG. GOG and the companies that use it know that they can't reasonably force you to stop using them.

I own Blitzkrieg on CD for example. I can always install it and play it. Unless the disc catches fire or the PC explodes. You get the idea. Yes, it IS A LICENSE. But it is impossible to disable it.

[shiel]

Originally posted by Tazor:

One more reason to...you know.

No I don't know... what?

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Silicon Vampire:

that is over 5 years old. what is your point?

You mean it is no longer valid?

[Silicon Vampire]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by Silicon Vampire:

that is over 5 years old. what is your point?

You mean it is no longer valid?

no, why even bring it up after 5 years? What was YOUR point?

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Silicon Vampire:

Originally posted by Tazor:

You mean it is no longer valid?

no, why even bring it up after 5 years? What was YOUR point?

My point is asking a question. Is it still possible to lose all games on your account if it gets banned like stated in that article?

[The Giving One]

9. TERM AND TERMINATION

C. Termination by Valve

Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally, or (b) you breach any terms of this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use). In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription fees or of any unused funds in your Steam Wallet, will be granted.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

[Forcen]

They don't really remove games you have paid for and all that, they remove games if they weren't paid for and they might disable you from using friends, forums, buying new games and all that.

I don't think they ever block you from using the account to download games and run them.

In that story you linked he was blocked from trading and buying games, not from playing the games he owned.
He could play all his games and make a new account if he wanted to buy new ones.

But yes, they could if they have good reasons to. (like you taking the money back)
You don't own the games, you should have known this when you noticed that you can't get them without steam telling you it's ok (when you enter your username and password)

You are misunderstanding how GOG works, they have no way of stopping you from doing whatever with the game installers but you are breaking their terms if you do stuff you can't according to their agreement.

Lots of people think GOG is just OK with you buying one game and having the whole family play it at once on their PC's but that is against their TOS.

[shiel]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by Silicon Vampire:

no, why even bring it up after 5 years? What was YOUR point?

My point is asking a question. Is it still possible to lose all games on your account if it gets banned like stated in that article?

You did agree to the terms...

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

[Snapjak]

Valve doesn't generally stop access to what you paid for.

But yes of course it can happen. How is that even a question after everything that's been said here.

[Pheace]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by Silicon Vampire:

no, why even bring it up after 5 years? What was YOUR point?

My point is asking a question. Is it still possible to lose all games on your account if it gets banned like stated in that article?

*If* you get banned, of course it's possible. At this point, for many years already,. almost all penalties result in a *restriction*, locking your account from adding new games, trading etc, but it still allows access to all the games you own. You'd have to be seriously defrauding Steam to get a complete account ban these days.