An issue with the new gifting

[One41]

I have friends who doesnt use Steam to play games but have an account to just gift people through their emails. This doesnt help them at all as it is easier for them to gift through emails than adding the person. I dont get on what is the problem gifting through emails when making a purchase.

EDIT:

Capt_RedSTAR wants me to post this

https://www.change.org/p/valve-corporation-valve-please-bring-back-previous-gift-system-on-steam

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

new security measure so the gifts go to the correct steam account and not a possible misspelled email account.

Selecting your gift recipient

When you select the "Purchase as a gift", you'll be presented with a list of your Steam friends, from there you can select who you'd like oto receive your gift. If you'd like to send it to someone who's not listed, you'll have to add them to your Steam friends list. This helps ensure your gift is going to make it to the right person.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=549#gifts-purchase

[One41]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

new security measure so the gifts go to the correct steam account and not a possible misspelled email account.

Selecting your gift recipient

When you select the "Purchase as a gift", you'll be presented with a list of your Steam friends, from there you can select who you'd like oto receive your gift. If you'd like to send it to someone who's not listed, you'll have to add them to your Steam friends list. This helps ensure your gift is going to make it to the right person.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=549#gifts-purchase

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Still, it doesnt seem right to completely eliminate the email process. It does have its uses and if someone wants to gift directly to ensure the gift, use the friend's process but not completely make it only that choice

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

they just updated the rules yesterday.

if it took them 4 years to add the extra layer of rules, they must have very good reason to do so.

you have to just deal with the new changes.

[gnarrr3]

New gifting system is stupid

I dont like it. I used email gifting and now its disabled. Why steam ruin its own platform ?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

now you must be friends first, yes.

there have been many support tickets to valve about typing incorrect emails. now this ensures that it gets to the person without any doubts.

[KazeZlat]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

now you must be friends first, yes.

there have been many support tickets to valve about typing incorrect emails. now this ensures that it gets to the person without any doubts.

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but what if I wanna invite my friend into steam gaming with "starting pack"?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

have the person create an account and give you his profile url so you can add him as a friend.

then you can gift it to his account.

[Start_Running]

It's a very nice way to close a grey market loophole. NO more stockpiling copies in your inventory.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

correct. you can no longer save games in your inventory. vac/game ban games are no longer the only ones you can not save.

[iwsfg]

I am really worried that I'll stuck with regional locked versions from now on because of the change.

With Ubisoft games for instance it's a big deal. I tried playing R6: Siege with russian voiceovers and I didn't like it. Messing with files to get original VOs helps, but only until first patch.I prefer to play with original audio, so with The Division I actually asked a friend from abroad to gift it to me, so I can have a regional global copy.

No more worrying if a Gift to E-mail or Gift to Inventory is going to work for a friend, gifts sent through the new system will always work on the receiver's account. When there is a large difference in pricing between countries, gifting won't be available and you'll know before purchase.

Would like to have this explained

[foryth]

Unfortunately I would pick up copies of games to gift to my kids when a birthday rolled around or something nice. Guess Ill be shopping elsewhere.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by foryth:

Unfortunately I would pick up copies of games to gift to my kids when a birthday rolled around or something nice. Guess Ill be shopping elsewhere.

you can still send it to their account at a later date.

[v00d00m4n]

Valve, bring back old gift system! Stop this greedfest!

Bring back the old way as alternative option, this change is terrible!
Instead of doing that you should have removed all regional locks from games and gifts, because they violate customer's rights... instead you violate our rights even more.

I dont want to get refund for refused gift, i want to keep it in inventory and maybe gfit later or someone else or exchange my gift with somebody else who has some gifst in inventory.
It worked almos like physical copies - you buy extra disk, your friend dont want, it, you meet someone who want it and you exchange you disk to something he can offer, or even can sell it.

By removing same ability from steam you violating our rights to do what we want with games we purchased!
Actually we have rights to sell any of our games from library, instead of restricting gifst like that because of corporate greed (what next? are you going to take 33% from gift sender?), you should provide us the way to make full use of our rights to sell or gift our used games (without sharing any cent with you or publisher) by removing it from our libraries and giftting or selling it to anyone we want.

Also e-mail gifst was quite practical to gift games to people who are not on steam yet. Now im limited to gift only to people who are already on steam.

And we all know why you did that - you want to restrict people who buy tons of copies on sales and then sell them at a littler higher price they paid but lower than game cost after sales.


What you did is stupid and punishing us all for not even a crime - person has rights to buy as many copies as person wants and sell or gift as many copies as person wants, like it or not you or any publisher dont have legal rights to restrict this.
The only wat to stpo that - is provide concurent afordable prices and often sales so that people would buy directly from you and publisher, instead of second hands.

You cant and have no rights to kill free market!

Im not a trader, but trading is not crime and i hate the fact that we are all suffering now with limitations because of your cheap and unjust attemp to kill free market of games.

Don you get it? You already got your profit from these gift copies purchased once - you cant milk it second time, and this restriction makes no sense even from your standpoint, you are shooting yourself and your reputation in a leg and turning into greedy corporation like EA that everybody going to hate soon and AVOID (which means less money for you), especially whe we have more customer friendly alternatives like Humble Bundle and GOG.

Instead of making steam friendly for customers a we are main source or profits, you making it more friendly for unjust greedy publisher and develoipers, who cant stand the fact that somebody can resell their product AFTER LEGALY PURCHASING IT at the lower price.


What you do is disgusting, Valve!

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

region restrictions dont violate anyones rights.

the inventory system for games was their system. they can take that away if they want to. reselling gifts was not something that valve and publishers approved of in the first place. check the tos.

people can create a free account to recieve a game. i dont see why that is so hard to do.

you do not own any game and they arent violating your rights to do what you want. this is a digital distributed product. it has different limitations than a physical purchase.

you do not have any right to resell any digital game at all.

steam is not a free market.

and the rest was just a rant i wont answer to.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Actually iirc this is bsaically just the old system, minus the ability to send gifts to an e-mail address.