Apple Inc. may try to put its dirty hands on steam
Apple Inc. has been rumored to be looking to acquire Valve Corporation. The speculation arose after Apple’s Chief Executive Officer, Tim Cook was spotted at Valve’s headquarters in Washington State late last week.

I'm shaking... anyone know more??

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Keonyn ♣ Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:45am 
That would pretty much ensure my usage of Steam would diminish substantially.
Satoru Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:51am 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/04/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-never-visited-valve/

No No No No No

You're reposting a 9 month old rumor that was almost immediately debunked at the time.
Last edited by Satoru; Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:52am
Spawn of Totoro Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Satoru:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/04/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-never-visited-valve/

No No No No No

You're reposting a 9 month old rumor that was almost immediately debunked at the time.

Don't you just love rumors and speculations based on false information?

(anyone sle having a problem with links causing all the text to become one block?)
Last edited by Spawn of Totoro; Jan 9, 2013 @ 8:55am
Spawn of Totoro Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by CandyTrox™:
Either way, one day it'll most likely be sold to a giant corp and it'll be interesting to see how that will affect users and prices on various services.

Gabe has said he would rather run the company into the ground then sell it. We will see what happens when his children take control though.
Silv3r9 Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:29am 
My reaction to reading this was:

*gasp..no freaking way!*
*clicks link*
*WTF Lady Gaga?*
*reads replies*
*lol*
*yawn..screw Apple*
Satoru Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Originally posted by CandyTrox™:
Either way, one day it'll most likely be sold to a giant corp and it'll be interesting to see how that will affect users and prices on various services.

Gabe has said he would rather run the company into the ground then sell it. We will see what happens when his children take control though.

I think of Valve similar to 3DRealms and Stardock. Their owners make enough money doing 'sometihng' (Duke3D royalties, or Stardock business, or Steam) such that they're truly independent. They're afforded the luxury of doing something they want to do in the way they want to do it. Sometimes that's good (Steam) sometimes... not so much (Duke Nukem forever..).

Surprisingly sometimes it's not about the money. Stardock sold Impulse to Gamestop. Note that Brad only sold off Impulse, not the entire company. Because Impulse was so profitable that he ended up dedicating so much resources to it, rather than to games like Elemental (which suffered greatly). Say what you want, but it takes balls to sell off a successful profitable business just so you can continue to make games the way you want to.
ProfZeroo Jan 9, 2013 @ 9:52am 
It makes sense that they would be interested. That said, I'll probably stop purchasing Steam games if this happens.
Tipperty Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Originally posted by Satoru:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/04/20/apple-ceo-tim-cook-never-visited-valve/

No No No No No

You're reposting a 9 month old rumor that was almost immediately debunked at the time.

Don't you just love rumors and speculations based on false information?

(anyone sle having a problem with links causing all the text to become one block?)

What, what, Whaaaaat Rumours and speculation on the internet, I have never heard of such a thing.

Why is it when we hear of such things, a lot of people are outraged or start gathering in groups with pitchforks and burning tourches, spitting out rumours and false allgations about the end of the world. By most peoples reactions you would think Apple or any corporation sit around burning live babies in their monthly board meetings, discussiing how to **** off the most amount of people.

Yes some companies have made some stupendous mistakes when they have taken control of another company, but really do people actually think they intended to screw up. I like Apple and have bought many of their products and yes they have made mistakes, iTunes was a terrible product when it first came out, but now it is a great(ok it's a good) digital store.

WoW with 5 million subscribers would lead you to believe it is a great product(opinions will differ on wither you are a fan), but when it first came out. WoW was a bag of ****, but again it improved over time.

Yes this rumour has been debunked, but who is to say that Apple would destroy Steam, it has been my understanding that Apple has always improved services they have taken control of or have owned from the beginning.

Not bashing Steam here as I know and understand things happen and will improve over time, but Apples approval service on Apps is a lot better than Steams Greenlight service. I am sure this will improve and it won't deter me from using Steam.
Spawn of Totoro Jan 9, 2013 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by lyall:
Not bashing Steam here as I know and understand things happen and will improve over time, but Apples approval service on Apps is a lot better than Steams Greenlight service. I am sure this will improve and it won't deter me from using Steam.

And many don't like the controll apple takes from the Developers. Greelight is a player choice system. Apple would never allow that idea. The company is all about control. And iTunes was good for me untill 11. Now it is horrible.

Steam is just a reseller with built in DRM. They have no approval process.

That isn't the issue though.

The issue is the rumor of Valve being in talks of selling the company. A rumor from an article several month old and debunked long ago. How is it still causing rumors like this?
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Tipperty Jan 9, 2013 @ 1:54pm 
@Spawn of Totoro

I was talking in general about people over-reactions to rumours and to your question!

How is it still causing rumors like this?

I already said

Yes this rumour has been debunked, but who is to say that Apple would destroy Steam, it has been my understanding that Apple has always improved services they have taken control of or have owned from the beginning.

Which is not causing rumours, I was asking a hypothetical question.

As for the control Apple insist on having over developers, well I have never developed an Apple App so I can't really comment on if that control exists or is just a heavy set of rules that they insist on being followed. Have you developed an App for Apple and can enlighten me to the control they exert on developers.

As for Greenlight, I thought Steams Greenlight is a system that enlists the community's help in picking some of the new games to be released on Steam. Developers post information, screenshots, and video for their game and seek a critical mass of community support in order to get selected for distribution. Steam Greenlight also helps developers get feedback from potential customers and start creating an active community around their game during the development process. (information lifted from Steams community site)

This is almost the same as the App program, except Apple insist that the App is test extensivly by the developer and Apple. Steam has none or a small testing clause, I didn't want to mention it but someone will ask for an example. So my Example is War Z.

I am not here to bad mouthing Steam like I said in my previous post

Not bashing Steam here as I know and understand things happen and will improve over time, but Apples approval service on Apps is a lot better than Steams Greenlight service. I am sure this will improve and it won't deter me from using Steam.

and that was the answer to my hyperthetical question!
Dreakon13 Jan 9, 2013 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
I think of Valve similar to 3DRealms and Stardock. Their owners make enough money doing 'sometihng' (Duke3D royalties, or Stardock business, or Steam) such that they're truly independent. They're afforded the luxury of doing something they want to do in the way they want to do it. Sometimes that's good (Steam) sometimes... not so much (Duke Nukem forever..).
In regards to 3D Realms, I think if they were truly independent they probably wouldn't have had Gearbox develop DNF for them...

That would be like Valve outsourcing Portal 2.
Satoru Jan 9, 2013 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Dreakon:
Originally posted by Satoru:
I think of Valve similar to 3DRealms and Stardock. Their owners make enough money doing 'sometihng' (Duke3D royalties, or Stardock business, or Steam) such that they're truly independent. They're afforded the luxury of doing something they want to do in the way they want to do it. Sometimes that's good (Steam) sometimes... not so much (Duke Nukem forever..).
In regards to 3D Realms, I think if they were truly independent they probably wouldn't have had Gearbox develop DNF for them...

That would be like Valve outsourcing Portal 2.

Gearbox only took them over AFTER they went absolutely bankrupt. Again the 'bad' end of the spectrum of being able to change engines every 2 years and never produce a product so much that even 'vaporware of the year' awards simply stopped giving it to Duke because it was winning too much.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_duke_nukem/all/

Here's a good post mortem of how 3D Realms went down into the toilet trying to make Duke Nukem Forever. This was before news that Gearbox had taken over development but shows basically how 'having all the money in the world' made 3D realms do basically whatever it wanted for over a decade.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/09/randy-pitchford-duke-nukem/all/

How Gearbox bascially bought out the rights for Duke from 3DRealms.
Last edited by Satoru; Jan 9, 2013 @ 3:46pm
B084F377 Jan 9, 2013 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by AHollowThing:
Apple Inc. has been rumored to be looking to acquire Valve Corporation. The speculation arose after Apple’s Chief Executive Officer, Tim Cook was spotted at Valve’s headquarters in Washington State late last week.

I'm shaking... anyone know more??

What I know is, theres been no official announcment. Secondly, both companies are very secretive. Thirdly, we know they've been working on steam games for mac.

What I also know is, this blasphemy you are spewing is an abomination. If this is whats in the future for both companies, this does not bode well for the future. Valve has a vision, and if the goal of that vision is just to be scooped up and eaten by a larger company, why even bother? (Some people say Greed. I say the rediculous sales and free DLC for Valve PC games are the reason I think Valve could be alot MORE greedy and hasn't been.)

I find this post to be VERY hard to believe without more on the subject from either or both companies.
Last edited by B084F377; Jan 9, 2013 @ 7:31pm
Noizzzmaker Jan 10, 2013 @ 4:02am 
how does a company buy another company that doesnt issue shares? oh wait it cant
AHollowThing Jan 10, 2013 @ 8:07am 
Thank you all, I thought of "apps" and began to sob.
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