when did Steam become moderated by reddit staff?

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Only reddit has more ban-happy and power tripping mods than Steam Community, which thankfully still can't apply any permanent bans except for scammers and real criminals.

I remember well that bans were given only to serious harassers, spammers and toxic Aholes that threw profanity and insults in every post.
Nowadays even the slighted hint of disrespect is enough for a ban,

called someone a clown - 2 week ban
said that i hate russia because of their war crimes - 4 week ban
called someone a liar - 3 week ban
made a political topic in Off Topic - 1 week ban
called someone a terrorist scum because they were justifying murder - 2 month ban.

what the hell happened? how is this allowed??
i thought only people aged 16+ are allowed to use steam, so why is our speech policed like we're in a kindergarten???
not even facebook and twitter were this bad!

[DarkCrystalMethod]

Steam is 13+ so tread more carefully.
Of the things you mentioned it might be the words used rather than simply the concept you were expressing. If you found someone justifying murder,etc thats a them problem and you should report it. Unfortunately the rules are written to advise you to not engage/reply/etc and ONLY report. Too bad not being allowed to dispute an issue in the thread it occurs as its happening is a thing you can get punished for.

[Mr. Smiles]

The exact point was when the volunteer mods got retired and the paid mods took over.

You are welcome.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Smiles:

The exact point was when the volunteer mods got retired and the paid mods took over.

You are welcome.

bloody hell, isn't the whole point of paid mods is to do proffesional work? why are they doing a worse job than people who literally did it for free?

[BJWyler]

Yup, moderation has gotten far too lenient around here. Way to much nonsense that isn't cleaned up quickly, if at all, and a severe lack of permabans. I miss the days of three strikes and you are out.

[DarkCrystalMethod]

Some bean counter probably wanted accountability with time-clock punch-ins and punch-outs and all that setup plus paying them apparently costs less than free workers and no tracking.

[76561198407601200]

Publicado originalmente por JolyJew СлаваУкраине:

Only reddit has more ban-happy and power tripping mods than Steam Community, which thankfully still can't apply any permanent bans except for scammers and real criminals.

I remember well that bans were given only to serious harassers, spammers and toxic Aholes that threw profanity and insults in every post.
Nowadays even the slighted hint of disrespect is enough for a ban,

called someone a clown - 2 week ban
said that i hate russia because of their war crimes - 4 week ban
called someone a liar - 3 week ban
made a political topic in Off Topic - 1 week ban
called someone a terrorist scum because they were justifying murder - 2 month ban.

what the hell happened? how is this allowed??
i thought only people aged 16+ are allowed to use steam, so why is our speech policed like we're in a kindergarten???
not even facebook and twitter were this bad!

You were moderated and are coming here to tell us because....? Thankfully we have a way to reduce spam here. Best of luck, blocked, etc.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Publicado originalmente por The Living Tribunal:

Publicado originalmente por JolyJew СлаваУкраине:

Only reddit has more ban-happy and power tripping mods than Steam Community, which thankfully still can't apply any permanent bans except for scammers and real criminals.

I remember well that bans were given only to serious harassers, spammers and toxic Aholes that threw profanity and insults in every post.
Nowadays even the slighted hint of disrespect is enough for a ban,

called someone a clown - 2 week ban
said that i hate russia because of their war crimes - 4 week ban
called someone a liar - 3 week ban
made a political topic in Off Topic - 1 week ban
called someone a terrorist scum because they were justifying murder - 2 month ban.

what the hell happened? how is this allowed??
i thought only people aged 16+ are allowed to use steam, so why is our speech policed like we're in a kindergarten???
not even facebook and twitter were this bad!

You were moderated and are coming here to tell us because....? Thankfully we have a way to reduce spam here. Best of luck, blocked, etc.

extremely ironic coming from a private profile that only has a random string of numbers for a username

[wesnef]

A: It never did. The plague of "evil mods banned me for NO REASON (look at their posts, there was totally a reason)" posts has gotten out of control, though.


One key to your long list of increasing bans is that history it taken into account - the more you get banned, the less likely they are to give you the benefit of the doubt, and the longer a ban they'll give.

[Ogami]

My favorite ban was 14 days because i called something cringe. Not a user, just something they quoted.
That was apparently a deadly insult worthy of a ban for the mods.

Best thing is when you have other threads with people insulting each other for 20 pages open for weeks without anything happening.

But thats just the sad reality of Steam moderation nowadays.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[29933545203998740]

You are not wrong, OP. Steam forum is filled with bot that serve as staff that do not do their job. Valve moderator need to shown the door, abuse of power is not tolerated. And when they do not do sufficient job in handling report and not have good support, then it is Valve that is responsible for lack of adequate moderation in all forum on Steam.

[Бобок]

Publicado originalmente por JolyJew СлаваУкраине:

Nowadays even the slighted hint of disrespect is enough for a ban,

That’s easy, and it took me fewer personal bans to figure out their reasoning. You’re not here to find out who’s right, wrong or respectable. You and the others are only allowed here so that the paid support has less work to do. Anything that does not move things towards this goal is waste of bandwidth, and they’ll try and make you lose interest without making it clear for you why.

[~°MØTG°~ GЯINDS€T [Fndr]]

Publicado originalmente por 29933545203998740:

You are not wrong, OP. Steam forum is filled with bot that serve as staff that do not do their job. Valve moderator need to shown the door, abuse of power is not tolerated. And when they do not do sufficient job in handling report and not have good support, then it is Valve that is responsible for lack of adequate moderation in all forum on Steam.

You sir speak facts

[~°MØTG°~ GЯINDS€T [Fndr]]

I can even provide proof that there are some people who get away with insulting others and they still dont face bans yet if someone tries to defend themselves they are the ones who face bans

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por JolyJew СлаваУкраине:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Smiles:

The exact point was when the volunteer mods got retired and the paid mods took over.

You are welcome.

bloody hell, isn't the whole point of paid mods is to do proffesional work? why are they doing a worse job than people who literally did it for free?

Several reasons.

First off, they're a company which means working hours are a thing. SO you get "dead time" when nobody's around. Never a good look a 24 hour forum.

Second, they're foreign and there's been quite a few times where they've either not understood language correctly or don't understand local jokes or regional turns of phrase.

But there may be a reason why Valve did this and it boils down to liability.

When you have volunteers like this, it's great in that you have dedicated people but the point is if someone does something that someone later then sues the company for, that can be a problem because they'd be liable as the volunteer was working or acting on the company's behalf.

But when you have a contracted company that changes things a lot - because it will be part of their contract that they'd be liable and makes it a bit tighter.

So they may well have decided purely for that reason.

[ucksmayitfay]

All I got was a warning for saying "some Steam users act like they have reading comprehension below that of ADHD-having 2nd graders hooked on crack" in a relatively peaceful on-topic thread. Although the colorful language seemed funny, I'm glad to see competency, even if some Steam users really DO flat-out ignore details and type like NPCs when trying to one-up you. My point being that obvious tonally dissonant stuff gets removed and derailed threads often get locked, but they give you SOME wiggle room instead of being as hugbox-y as community guidelines imply.