Certain games being delisted for the sake of next-gen nonsense am I losing my mind is it true?

[Shadowfox394]

Idk if the rumors is true but I noticed some games being delisted mainly retro gaming on Steam and wonder if anyone knows if it's about this next-gen garbage? Who ever owns Valve needs to know this is not okay. If you guys think you have the power that we don't own you technically we do own you because we give you our paychecks. Why are we still buying Steam games with all this delisting going on right now all because they want this next-gen garbage?

Why do we continue to buy things from Valve if they CLAIM we don't own it shouldn't we take our paychecks else where? I've been a big Steam fanatic since Windows 7 was a thing and I do NOT approve delisting retro gaming all for the sake this modern garbage is what one rumor points out to online. Please tell me this isn't true retro games are disappearing because of this whole next-gen nonsense come on guys if this is true then shame on you and we should be filing a complaint against you to the FTC and Better Business Bureau this is ridiculous if this rumor is real I know you guys have a POLICY that you clicked I AGREE that you think you own all of us but if that's the case idk if I should even trust Steam at this point please tell me these are all just rumors idk why I still buy games from you guys claiming the all digital age is the superior age not when they control you and claim they own you. I want you to know it's the opposite we own you we give you the MONEY understand this and we can easily go somewhere else for our games if you continue to act like this now the delisting has GOTTA stop and I know there are people who will agree and some who will not agree but that's okay now if this rumor isn't true kudos I am here to stay but if I find out the Valve owner is delisting retro gaming for the sake of the "next-gen" I will continue to keep what games I got but I will no longer SUPPORT your company Mr Valve CEO and you can just have a nice day if you don't value the customer please tell me this is all just rumors thanks guys.

UPDATE

Found the video of the guy talking about all of this idk if what he says is true but apparently he believes retro games are disappearing from Steam I could of mis understood him as well I know Sega is replacing older games for newer games and other companies are following them. Long story short something about games being replaced by remasters or something like that with like realistic graphics or something does it sound familiar to anyone? If I need to add more information I will update as I go sorry for confusing people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTmlb7ZBLmw

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sunny a écrit :

cSg|mc-Hotsauce a écrit :

Turtle Rock was acquired by Valve in 2008 and Tencent bought Turtle Rock in 2021.

And a ton of HL2 devs moved to Left 4 Dead development after Episode 2 released.

And that means that Valve isn't a publisher?

Shadowfox394 a écrit :

Steam and I guess I will go somewhere else if they don't want out money.

Steam takes a cut for items being sold on their storefront. it's the publisher of a given game that makes the decision, NOT STEAM. It has nothing to do with Steam wanting or not wanting your money. They have no capacity to force a business to make and sell something they don't want to sell.

They publish their own games.

[Paratech2008]

Companies can go bankrupt or sold and whoever winds up with the rights might not want to sell the game(s) on Steam.

Cinemaware was an example.

[apterous]

i lost 30+ games from wishlist wtf is going on?

[Soren]

Paratech2008 a écrit :

Companies can go bankrupt or sold and whoever winds up with the rights might not want to sell the game(s) on Steam.

Cinemaware was an example.

Also, if your product no longer works on modern systems. It can be said to be unethical to continue selling the product despite knowing it does not work for most people.

Delisting your game at that point can be considered the more ethical decision over just leaving it up with no intention of paying developers to fix/update it. People who bought it can still download it anyway.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Soren a écrit :

Paratech2008 a écrit :

Companies can go bankrupt or sold and whoever winds up with the rights might not want to sell the game(s) on Steam.

Cinemaware was an example.

Also, if your product no longer works on modern systems. It can be said to be unethical to continue selling the product despite knowing it does not work for most people.

Delisting your game at that point can be considered the more ethical decision over just leaving it up with no intention of paying developers to fix/update it. People who bought it can still download it anyway.

Do you even believe what you are saying? There is still plenty of games for Windows 7 laying around and all you'd have to do is use the compatibility settings or VMware to make it running on modern systems.

This has to be the most ludicrous thing I've read all week.

[Soren]

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Soren a écrit :

Also, if your product no longer works on modern systems. It can be said to be unethical to continue selling the product despite knowing it does not work for most people.

Delisting your game at that point can be considered the more ethical decision over just leaving it up with no intention of paying developers to fix/update it. People who bought it can still download it anyway.

Do you even believe what you are saying? There is still plenty of games for Windows 7 laying around and all you'd have to do is use the compatibility settings or VMware to make it running on modern systems.

This has to be the most ludicrous thing I've read all week.

It's not just about windows 7 OS support or whatever. Though I'd argue you'd still have consumers angry over products like those not working out of the box.

But take games like Swords of Legends Online. It took a while for them to delist it after the servers went down. You could add it to your library. You could download the game. But it would not work without the server. So what would happen is people waste their time downloading 70+ GBs of game. Boot it up. Couldn't connect to the server. Then they'd come to the Steam discussion asking what was wrong. Only for them to be told the game is defunct.

Makes you question Gameforge waited to delist it for so long. As the only thing it did was trick consumers into wasting their electricity, ISP data, and time.

[RPG Gamer Man]

PocketYoda a écrit :

What exactly was delisted?

Many old Rpg Maker games were also delisted too. I had at least 30 of them on my wishlist. Had to go thru and remove each one. Alot of them did not even have a store game and just said "unavailable".

[Ben Lubar]

RPG Gamer Man a écrit :

PocketYoda a écrit :

What exactly was delisted?

Many old Rpg Maker games were also delisted too. I had at least 30 of them on my wishlist. Had to go thru and remove each one. Alot of them did not even have a store game and just said "unavailable".

Wishlists showing delisted games is new this week. Before this week, they didn't show anything at all when a game was delisted, so the games in your wishlist likely aren't newly delisted.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Ben Lubar a écrit :

RPG Gamer Man a écrit :

Many old Rpg Maker games were also delisted too. I had at least 30 of them on my wishlist. Had to go thru and remove each one. Alot of them did not even have a store game and just said "unavailable".

Wishlists showing delisted games is new this week. Before this week, they didn't show anything at all when a game was delisted, so the games in your wishlist likely aren't newly delisted.

That makes sense. Yea, i recall they never showed up in wishlists as delisted. Is that a new update setting? Looks like steam is updating how wishlists works. I think that is a good update.

Now what we need is some kind of warning system about which games will get delisted or some kind of news feed about which games are being removed. That also would be helpful. I really hope in the future they implement a setting like that.

[DRfeelGood(AKA_Major Payne)]

MAGA

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Soren a écrit :

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Do you even believe what you are saying? There is still plenty of games for Windows 7 laying around and all you'd have to do is use the compatibility settings or VMware to make it running on modern systems.

This has to be the most ludicrous thing I've read all week.

It's not just about windows 7 OS support or whatever. Though I'd argue you'd still have consumers angry over products like those not working out of the box.

But take games like Swords of Legends Online. It took a while for them to delist it after the servers went down. You could add it to your library. You could download the game. But it would not work without the server. So what would happen is people waste their time downloading 70+ GBs of game. Boot it up. Couldn't connect to the server. Then they'd come to the Steam discussion asking what was wrong. Only for them to be told the game is defunct.

Makes you question Gameforge waited to delist it for so long. As the only thing it did was trick consumers into wasting their electricity, ISP data, and time.

Internet only games have absolutely nothing to do with what you were talking about prior. They also remove those games as the servers get removed. Nobody ever downloaded an online only game only to realise they're not in business anymore.

[Soren]

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Internet only games have absolutely nothing to do with what you were talking about prior.

It has something to do with it. As it's a similar concept. Some other products, like really old games I own on Steam probably would get negative reviews if people bought them in 2024 (because they don't work on modern hardware).

The only reason I can't prove that though is because any game that fits this description just doesn't really get reviews or sales. Like 3089. I own it. It doesn't work on my windows 10 computer. I went to check out it's reviews to prove my point. It just doesn't have any reviews in 2024... like at all. Last review was 3 years old. Despite it's positive review score. If people were buying such a game in 2024, you'd expect negative reviews because they're angry such a product doesn't really function on modern hardware despite still being for sale.

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Nobody ever downloaded an online only game only to realise they're not in business anymore.

Think so do you?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1418100/discussions/0/3040480429138254856/?ctp=7#c4034726433732818724

HeartFire a écrit :

Yes I am just downloaded the game last night and trying to play early this morning and this is what I get from steam account.

Comment from the Swords of Legend Online steam discussion board. Quite a few comments like this one after the servers went down. Granted, most of them seem to be from people who previously played the game so it remained in their library. But some appeared to be from people who never played the game before like this commenter.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Soren a écrit :

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Internet only games have absolutely nothing to do with what you were talking about prior.

It has something to do with it. As it's a similar concept. Some other products, like really old games I own on Steam probably would get negative reviews if people bought them in 2024 (because they don't work on modern hardware).

The only reason I can't prove that though is because any game that fits this description just doesn't really get reviews or sales. Like 3089. I own it. It doesn't work on my windows 10 computer. I went to check out it's reviews to prove my point. It just doesn't have any reviews in 2024... like at all. Last review was 3 years old. Despite it's positive review score. If people were buying such a game in 2024, you'd expect negative reviews because they're angry such a product doesn't really function on modern hardware despite still being for sale.

Eagle_of_Fire a écrit :

Nobody ever downloaded an online only game only to realise they're not in business anymore.

Think so do you?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1418100/discussions/0/3040480429138254856/?ctp=7#c4034726433732818724

HeartFire a écrit :

Yes I am just downloaded the game last night and trying to play early this morning and this is what I get from steam account.

Comment from the Swords of Legend Online steam discussion board. Quite a few comments like this one after the servers went down. Granted, most of them seem to be from people who previously played the game so it remained in their library. But some appeared to be from people who never played the game before like this commenter.

You know, people like you or even worse people you are pointing at is one of the major reasons why I don't really have faith in humanity anymore.