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How Game Industry going W0k3 like Film Industry
This video has half a million views and I agree with him 100% . Our beloved hobby being ruined by some sick people. Men worked so hard to create this Industry along with other industries. I gave the link below👇
https://youtu.be/B0fE2T0dlHU
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RexIes の投稿を引用:
Nx Machina の投稿を引用:
So you decide to advertise their or maybe it is your channel in the hopes of increasing views, while ignoring you cannot advertise on the forums.
It's not advertising. I see what you tried to do here and it was a really pathetic attempt.
It's advertisement for a BS clickbait video.
Coffee 2024年7月16日 13時53分 
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
RexIes の投稿を引用:
It's not advertising. I see what you tried to do here and it was a really pathetic attempt.
It's advertisement for a BS clickbait video.

That means posting ANY link that leads outside steam would also be advertising. Whatever the content happens to be. Whether its a PCgamer link (maybe the person posting the link made the pcgamer article for example), a wikipedia link or whatever it happens to be is an ad for that site.

But thats not how steam works, since they don't ban links to outside steam, usually I see a warning about leaving steam though.

If steam doesn't want "advertisements" to other sources, they could ban all links. Since linking anything gives that site (or person) money=advertising for that site. But steam doesn't, because as of now they don't see that.

Now as for the content of the video, didn't bother to watch but it sounds like junk. But there sure is a ton of junk videos and gaming articles out there and I don't ever click any. They are just rage bait, like the gaming journalists war against palworld, but it was just to generate click revenue for ads with all the angry people tweeting (or whatever it is called these days) at them.

(edit: Unless steam only sees youtube as advertising, but in that case they should just ban youtube from steam entirely. But if this video is an advertisement, then all videos are an advertisement.

A better argument is just to say the video is another junk rage bait video like the rest and is garbage, thats probably more accurate than saying its an advertisement as anything and everything can be considered an advertisement tbh. Even talking about a game is advertising for that game.
最近の変更はCoffeeが行いました; 2024年7月16日 13時57分
Lily の投稿を引用:
Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用:
It's advertisement for a BS clickbait video.

That means posting ANY link that leads outside steam would also be advertising.
Correct, it certainly can be considered like that.
God of War の投稿を引用:
Thanks for sharing.

However, Steam has actually created a diverse environment for games. There is no need to purchase games from big publishers at all. Simply, support independent developers which make games for gamers like Interplay's "By gamers, for gamers.". Thanks to Steam independent development has become economically possible.

People making those videos and most people complaining about the points from it however mostly have their tunnel-vision focused on mainstream games which usually don't appeal to them. There is something for everybody away from mainstream gaming, but many of them prefer to complain and rage-bait rather than make the effort to find a game which would appeal to them.
Just watch the video and then say brothers.
Another weak attempt to farm awards.
!X_Jolly_Cooperation_X! の投稿を引用:
When did a lot of gamers turn into nothing more than a bunch of spineless, corpo bootlickers? Seriously, if this was the early 2000s, anyone supporting anything slightly woke would have been brutally made fun and ostracized. Now you got a lot of weirdos defending this corpo trash, gnashing their teeth as they scream furiously: 'Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone.'

What the hell happened to people? Why are they so dumb these days?
Education got taken over slowly.. then big business and government.
!X_Jolly_Cooperation_X! の投稿を引用:
When did a lot of gamers turn into nothing more than a bunch of spineless, corpo bootlickers? Seriously, if this was the early 2000s, anyone supporting anything slightly woke would have been brutally made fun and ostracized. Now you got a lot of weirdos defending this corpo trash, gnashing their teeth as they scream furiously: 'Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone.'

What the hell happened to people? Why are they so dumb these days?

:plumphelmet: Your opinions about the attitudes of people from the past are wildly incorrect. Your ideology is showing!
I don't mind it as long as they let me know it. That way I am given the opportunity to make the decision to purchase it or not based on all the information about the game. I do vote with my wallet.

If they are adding things to a game and think as a possible purchaser of the game I don't need to know they are sadly mistaken. It is a great way to guarantee I don't purchase any more of their products, period.

BTW it doesn't take a genius to figure out if a game story is written for a certain character or not. You can't fit a square peg into a round hole.

If there are doing it without putting the interests of everyone else (especially those who may purchase the game) last then the game or whatever else it is deserves to fail massively.
最近の変更はmiakisfanが行いました; 2024年7月17日 7時59分
!X_Jolly_Cooperation_X! の投稿を引用:
When did a lot of gamers turn into nothing more than a bunch of spineless, corpo bootlickers? Seriously, if this was the early 2000s, anyone supporting anything slightly woke would have been brutally made fun and ostracized. Now you got a lot of weirdos defending this corpo trash, gnashing their teeth as they scream furiously: 'Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone.'

What the hell happened to people? Why are they so dumb these days?
I was there in the early 2000s. And no, in general people didn't get treated like that. Or people thought they did while seriously overestimating their "brutally making fun and ostracising" performances.
I'm so glad i been losing interest in entertainment. Whatever is coming out is junk.
Sharki の投稿を引用:
How Game Industry going W0k3 like Film Industry
This video has half a million views and I agree with him 100% . Our beloved hobby being ruined by some sick people. Men worked so hard to create this Industry along with other industries. I gave the link below👇
https://youtu.be/B0fE2T0dlHU

Woke refers to activism, demonstrations, frequently posting or expressing the same messages in an attempt to convince people of some form of information or get them to side with your opinion, right?

Yes, there are people who put US Political themes into video games and quite clearly with an intent of activism. You can see this in games that have rather too-loose localization, changing the meaning of subjects NPCs discuss entirely to fit a political narrative and get people to think, even when it doesn't fit the theme of the game at all.

That is what I see as 'woke nonsense'. However, I suspect you have a diifferent intepretation of 'woke' here and instead refer to inclusivity and related themes.


The fact is, a lot of programmers and game designers are on the LGBTQ+ spectrum. A lot of them also have autism, adhd, etc. They want themselves represented in 'their games'. <---
I'm pointing to "their games" here on purpose just to clarify how far these people see "their work" as theirs and "not intended to satisfy the community", but only "them". They make games literally "For themselves".
You need to understand that, nowadays, there is a large increase of ... what we can summarize as narcissism unfortunately happening amongst people.
Selfcentered Thinking patterns, Entitlement, Lack of empathy for others (especially those who disagree), splitting, projection, etc.

There exists the idea the developer team knows what "the gamer" wants. And by "team", I am mainly referring to those in the decision making chairs, such as: the administration, the directors / producers, and not the individual asset creators and actual programmers, though yes, those too will go along with the higher-ups their wishes.
This is not just because otherwise they get fired and replaced, but indeed because for some idiologies and wishes align, which strengthens this idea that these people have that they think they know what "gamers" want.
(What I am trying to point out here is that they generally don't ask people. They don't hold polls or look at feedback. Instead they look at themselves and loud people that algorithms online feed them, which is going to be in align with their own wishes obviously, because thats how twitter, tiktok, youtube, etc work.)


If you think about it for a moment, you start to see something else odd.

Indeed, they want to make games in their vision, but they react harshly when the community doesn't want more of what they produced and released, so-- indeed, they see the community of buyers as nothing more, but a tool that should just function. Deliver positive reviews to them for 'putting in effort to make a product they want' and 'buy their products', 'make them feel great.' (which is indeed in alignment with narcissistic behaviors)

Here's a vice article that supports my observation on this:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3mw5b/how-tabletop-rpgs-are-being-reclaimed-from-bigots-and-jerks

They literally focus on making a game that the higher ups like, rather than what the crowd wants, yet they collect cash somehow.
How? Using promises. Using Trailers, words--- words that say A and hide facts B. It's an odd industry, but that industry is basically solely focussed on manipulating you into spending, rather than creating enjoyable art.


Why am I saying these things:

Personally I like girl stuff, cut stuff, flowers, etc. a bit of gay stuff, and other inclusive stuff, etc., "but"
I can tell that games are getting:
A. less diverse, and
B. less 'targetted' at the audience.

Take a game about a gay protagonist for example. What do game devs do with such a game?
...... They sexualize being gay basically and don't let you play.

Example: You have an action shooter with a gay protagonist who has relation and emotional problems, which is fine, but---- most of the game is cutscenes where you have no input, gameplay or control and... its just about modern US political issues, even if the setting is fantasy. ... (they insert comments about racism for example, or they insert comments about 'standing up for yourself' ... repeating the same stuff basically.)
.......well, they also show some kind of break up between the protag and his boyfriend and tears...
and we just have to watch that stuff.. wondering at some point literally, where is the gameplay?

"When can we explore the map a bit and open up chests and shoot stuff or something?"
----random cutscene--- "AGAIN?"


And its not just LGBTQ themed games of course. There is also games with a focus on Zoomer Talk or Gen Alpha speak (that they use on tiktok specifically) for whatever reason, which make following conversations between characters annoying and immersiveness impossible.

What I see, as such, is not "woke", but selfishness.
It's an entirely different problem. The refusal to care about their audience.

One that is likely caused by blindness, caused by search engine algorithms and them spending too much time on social media.
The whole pride movement is about letting people be and letting it be accepted as normal, yet these people throw a loop on it and seem to purposely fetishize it or exaggerate how much attention it needs.


Another issue is that there are too many rich people that they can get funds from nowadays. This means that, even if the group of people they satisfy is small, they still make enough money. Their stock holders and such funding them regardless of outcome also doesn't help of course, but the point of this being that it all feeds into their entitled view of the world and how they think they deserve to make games with distracting, immersiveness sabotaging political themes and viewpoints being forced on the player in them.


So the summary is:
Classic Masculinity and Heterosexual ideas being portrait less in games isn't really the problem in the game industry I see.
I just see people designing games for themselves and trying to force others to like it, even when it sucks, so that they get positive fame and money. Those same people threaten others with the wrath of being villainized and shoved over at one side or whatever, should they disagree.

At any rate, it isn't woke. It's just people being annoying and refusing to hear that or adjust.

My solution is simple: Buy Indie games instead. Don't buy preorders or in development stuff. Buy Full releases only. Buy cheaper games instead of cutscene based "movies".
Literally, dont buy Ubisoft's and other of such companies their products. Don't feed them. There are plenty of good indies.
最近の変更はElucidatorが行いました; 2024年7月17日 11時18分
The woke media is dying out nowadays
It reached its end
Sharki 2024年7月17日 15時15分 
WhiteKnight の投稿を引用:
I'm so glad i been losing interest in entertainment. Whatever is coming out is junk.
Me too... Currently my hobbies are :
1. Jdm cars , 80s sports car ( Corvette ), car culture.
2. Fresh water aquarium.
Sharki 2024年7月17日 16時25分 
Just watch the video mate
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