Love steam will not buy Orgins only games

[Adam Green]

I love steam its been around for years. Want to get Battle field 4 but wont becase it is not on steam. Any one els feel this way.

[TastyToast]

all im saying is i want my library in one place. im curious how much money they are losing by not offering their products on steam? theres many players on here that flat out wont use origin. i mean they get 0 money from me, my Origin account contains the humble bundle games + games i bought on steam and added on there. since i cant get EA games on steam i just buy used copies for xbox. oh well EA's loss.

[crunchyfrog]

İlk olarak TastyToast tarafından gönderildi:

all im saying is i want my library in one place. im curious how much money they are losing by not offering their products on steam? theres many players on here that flat out wont use origin. i mean they get 0 money from me, my Origin account contains the humble bundle games + games i bought on steam and added on there. since i cant get EA games on steam i just buy used copies for xbox. oh well EA's loss.

Fair enough if that's what you want. I merely drew your attention to your incorrect claim about competition.

Of course they're losing out, but EA have always been rather amateur and short-sighted in their business practice at best. This is a fundamental reason why the only games I own from EA in recent years are those I was given or acquired in bundles (I've rather disliked their mainstream pap type games anyway).

It's patently obvious - even to them I believe - that they are losing sales due to their games not being on Steam, but I can't see their vain hope (or greed) giving way anytime soon. They'll stick to their guns and keep Origin exclusive because they get 100% of the take on each game, oblivious to the fact that 100% of a lesser gross is still lesser.

So personally, I couldn't care less about EA, but I empathise with those who do want their games.

I've never understood anyone who wants all their games on one platform though, as that makes little sense. It's no real difference to click on a different program to run them, and remembering passwords and logins are a moot point as there are such devices as notepads to store such details (which you can still keep private). I see no plus points to having your games on one platform, as the alleged convenience it afford you is utterly negligible. However, the downside is rather large - if something goes wrong, even temporarily you lose ALL. That's the risk of all your eggs in one basket.

[UberNoodle]

İlk olarak NL tarafından gönderildi:

Nope. I am glad I have choices and Steam has competition. Love Battlefield 4. To bad CoD Ghost turned out to be trash. I need to be able to play games when Steam is down. Currently having fewer issues with Origin then I am with Steam. Don't be a sheep.

Well really Origin isn't providing "choice" when it makes itself mandatory for all new EA games. That's not choice. That's removing choice and creating a captive market. I know the same could be levied at Steam as a great number of games are Steam exclusive and all of Valve's titles are. But that's probably not really "choice" either.

[💢𝓐ℓ ¢нємιѕт💢]

Folks, read my profile headline.

It pretty much sums up our relation with Steam and Origin.

[Doko]

Honestly I've had no problems at all installing origin recently, even got to try out the Titanfall Beta and have decided I want to purchase the game.

For those that don't want to use Origin to play their games, I'm sorry but you're only limiting yourself when you stay your hand.

Besides Origin actually has a decent refund policy compared to Steams buy now and maybe a refund later down the line.

[ KARR™]

İlk olarak Sun Streaker tarafından gönderildi:

Besides Origin actually has a decent refund policy compared to Steams buy now and maybe a refund later down the line.

Valve offer refunds where they are applicale and justified. There isn't any "only one refund "or "no refunds ever" thing, they're all judged on their own merits.

That said, no problems with Origin as im sure i said about 20 pages ago. Can't remember.

[Satoru]

İlk olarak Sun Streaker tarafından gönderildi:

Besides Origin actually has a decent refund policy compared to Steams buy now and maybe a refund later down the line.

Origin's refund policy only applies to EA games. Everything else on the store you're SOL.

[Prodigy]

Yeah, that would be pretty cool! But sadly, it will never happen...

[CarelessB]

who cares

[Rockhead Gaz]

İlk olarak TastyToast tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak crunchyfrog tarafından gönderildi:

No, not really. Because with the comparison to the game issue, it's just a case of getting a differing product. It's not the point that you have to go out your way.

I'm sorry you're just not getting this.

neither are you. and thats ok. everyone doesnt have to be the same and want the same things.

But what you're suggesting, the thing that you want, is that one platform have total dominance over the PC gaming platform. And what if that one dominant platform isn't the one someone else desires the use of? You state there's a lack of competition because certain titles are exclusive to certain platforms, but that exclusivity drives consumers to use both platforms, thus creating a fair competitive business environment. Losing that exclusivity could potentially render one platform obsolete, thus destroying the competition, and that's exactly what you're advocating.

With such an environment as we have now comes fair pricing, competitive sales and discounts, all good things for the gamer, by and large.

You're not getting this because you're thinking purely in terms of what you think is best for you, rather than thinking in terms of what is best for the gaming community as a whole. You said it yourself, not everyone wants the same things, but you'd happily see a platform disappear from existence in order for the dominant platform to be the one you want it to be.

[SharpObject1]

İlk olarak TastyToast tarafından gönderildi:

all im saying is i want my library in one place. im curious how much money they are losing by not offering their products on steam? theres many players on here that flat out wont use origin. i mean they get 0 money from me, my Origin account contains the humble bundle games + games i bought on steam and added on there. since i cant get EA games on steam i just buy used copies for xbox. oh well EA's loss.

There's only five, I read that online.

[CyberDown]

Agree, i avoid needless secondary DRM layers through steam as well. I like having my games all in one place, which excludes orgin games...also EA sucks and ruins a lot of their games, which are over priced....so i feel im not missing out on not having any future EA games.

Its funny with this UPLAY weekend all the UBI games i wont buy because of UPLAY are all on sale. Would definately pick up a few if they only allowed steam users to only use steam for their games.

I have no issue with MMO games and online only games (like lobby based games ect) having their own launcher and log in...though i cant stand juggling accounts.

[TastyToast]

İlk olarak Rockhead Gaz tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TastyToast tarafından gönderildi:

neither are you. and thats ok. everyone doesnt have to be the same and want the same things.

But what you're suggesting, the thing that you want, is that one platform have total dominance over the PC gaming platform. And what if that one dominant platform isn't the one someone else desires the use of? You state there's a lack of competition because certain titles are exclusive to certain platforms, but that exclusivity drives consumers to use both platforms, thus creating a fair competitive business environment. Losing that exclusivity could potentially render one platform obsolete, thus destroying the competition, and that's exactly what you're advocating.

With such an environment as we have now comes fair pricing, competitive sales and discounts, all good things for the gamer, by and large.

You're not getting this because you're thinking purely in terms of what you think is best for you, rather than thinking in terms of what is best for the gaming community as a whole. You said it yourself, not everyone wants the same things, but you'd happily see a platform disappear from existence in order for the dominant platform to be the one you want it to be.

thats not what i meant at all. i want all games to be available on every platform. let the competition be driven by sales and customer service. sounds like the best competition to me.

[Sir. Snacks]

I like to use both origin and steam but i try to buy all my games on steam when i can

[crunchyfrog]

İlk olarak Rockhead Gaz tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak TastyToast tarafından gönderildi:

neither are you. and thats ok. everyone doesnt have to be the same and want the same things.

But what you're suggesting, the thing that you want, is that one platform have total dominance over the PC gaming platform. And what if that one dominant platform isn't the one someone else desires the use of? You state there's a lack of competition because certain titles are exclusive to certain platforms, but that exclusivity drives consumers to use both platforms, thus creating a fair competitive business environment. Losing that exclusivity could potentially render one platform obsolete, thus destroying the competition, and that's exactly what you're advocating.

With such an environment as we have now comes fair pricing, competitive sales and discounts, all good things for the gamer, by and large.

You're not getting this because you're thinking purely in terms of what you think is best for you, rather than thinking in terms of what is best for the gaming community as a whole. You said it yourself, not everyone wants the same things, but you'd happily see a platform disappear from existence in order for the dominant platform to be the one you want it to be.

Exactly. I hate saying my possibly overused complaint about some gamers, but, well, empathy...
There, I've said it.

I understand you saying the reverse is true, Tasty Toast, but whatever you've been discussing with me certainly showed you lacked empathy even if you shared the same goal

Anyway, at least we want the same thing - more for everyone!

İlk olarak Sun Streaker tarafından gönderildi:

Honestly I've had no problems at all installing origin recently, even got to try out the Titanfall Beta and have decided I want to purchase the game.

For those that don't want to use Origin to play their games, I'm sorry but you're only limiting yourself when you stay your hand.

Besides Origin actually has a decent refund policy compared to Steams buy now and maybe a refund later down the line.

I can't speak for US law, but certainly as far as us in the EU and Britain goes, BOTH have to follow our consumer laws, and if a game is faulty they MUST provide a refund if we've fulfilled our obligations.

I can also only tell you what I've experienced personally and on the behalf of clients, and that is that Origin and EA's staff are a mixed bag - they'll often give refunds on their own products easily enough, but will happily break the law and ignore you (and possibly ban you) if you try to stand by your rights. I've had no indication of this issue with Steam, although they can be a little unaware of such rights up front.