Chesmu May 15, 2023 @ 2:34pm
Changed OS to 10, painful to use
[Update: Reverted back to W7 (for now!?).]

Check my specs at the end of this writing. It did install after about 1 hour, I had 2 GPU glitches and 1 system crash, 3 BSODs, 1 hardware damage so far, which never happened in years while using Windows 7.

Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

I had to disable ~30 services, adjust ~10 policies, uninstall ~30 useless apps, stop many scheduled tasks, and now it's barely functional with time to time crashes. (once a day)

This was part I was afraid of, even tho the OS is giving me Vertigo due to lags and bad design, but Windows 11 is literally impossible to run on this machine, and I can't imagine the bloat it will install which I'm sure will render my new PC useless if I buy any.

The issue is the never ending cycle, not just the Windows 10.

Pentium(R) Dual Core 2.60GHz
2GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT 1GB
HDD
Last edited by Chesmu; May 21, 2023 @ 8:55am
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Chesmu May 15, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.
Trollhammer May 15, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.
Which games ?
Boblin the Goblin May 15, 2023 @ 2:58pm 
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.
AmsterdamHeavy May 15, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Check my specs at the end of this writing. It did install after about 1 hour, I had 2 GPU glitches and 1 system crash, 3 BSODs, 1 hardware damage so far, which never happened in years while using Windows 7.



Originally posted by Chesmu:
I had to disable ~30 services, adjust ~10 policies, uninstall ~30 useless apps, stop many scheduled tasks, and now it's barely functional with time to time crashes. (once a day)

:ThinkingYellowFace:
Last edited by AmsterdamHeavy; May 15, 2023 @ 2:59pm
Chesmu May 15, 2023 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!
Start_Running May 15, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
And yet other people are playing just fine.
Boblin the Goblin May 15, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Haruspex May 15, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Originally posted by Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.

This is largely because Windows 10 is stressing that 2 GB of RAM to the absolute limit and probably relying on the paging file. This leaves your computer waiting around for your hard drive to act like RAM and deliver the data it needs.

You might look into Tiny10[beebom.com], which strips away a lot of the extra stuff in Windows 10 and leaves it able to run more comfortably with minimal RAM. However it's unofficial and use-at-your-own-risk. It's most likely perfectly safe, but in the off-chance that the developer of Tiny10 put something sneaky in the OS I wouldn't use that PC for anything too important. Virustotal doesn't flag the iso for anything suspicious, for what it's worth.
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Aluvard May 15, 2023 @ 3:08pm 
Your hardware meets the minimum system requirements to get win 10 installed, but that's about it.
It would be wise to have at least 4 GB RAM and at least 250 GB of HDD to ensure it will run smoothly.
Like with games, minimum requirements don't mean comfortable use. They mean that you will launch OS, but the working quality may leave much to be desired.
Chesmu May 15, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Harusp3x:
Originally posted by Chesmu:

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.

This is largely because Windows 10 is stressing that 2 GB of RAM to the absolute limit and probably relying on the paging file. This leaves your computer waiting around for your hard drive to act like RAM and deliver the data it needs.

You might look into Tiny10[beebom.com], which strips away a lot of the extra stuff in Windows 10 and leaves it able to run more comfortably with minimal RAM. However it's unofficial and use-at-your-own-risk. It's most likely perfectly safe, but in the off-chance that the developer of Tiny10 put something sneaky in the OS I wouldn't use that PC for anything too important. Virustotal doesn't flag the iso for anything suspicious, for what it's worth.

My memory barely crosses 50% now, most of the time the system lags I check the state of PC and nothing hits 100%, sometimes CPU does. OS probably keeps running hidden tasks at background, connecting to servers and such by itself.
Thermal Lance May 15, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Youll probably need to disable the graphics effects and set the OS in performance mode. I dont remember how but its somewhere in settings.
Takohashi May 15, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by Chesmu:

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.
Boblin the Goblin May 15, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Takohashi:
Originally posted by SlowMango:


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.


They do have the same specs.

Most people aren't running hardware that predates Win7.
Takohashi May 15, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by Takohashi:
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.


They do have the same specs.

Most people aren't running hardware that predates Win7.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that Win10 will work just as well on the same hardware. Well, I wrote in one of the topics that Win10 works very poorly (much worse than Win7) with an HDD and a small amount of RAM.
Wolfstorm May 15, 2023 @ 3:50pm 
OP is poor, uses a old computer and play old games, which are sold in the Steam store.
Yet Steam want to impose on him a system which don't work in his computer, and don't work with the games he plays.
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