Chesmu 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:34
Changed OS to 10, painful to use
[Update: Reverted back to W7 (for now!?).]

Check my specs at the end of this writing. It did install after about 1 hour, I had 2 GPU glitches and 1 system crash, 3 BSODs, 1 hardware damage so far, which never happened in years while using Windows 7.

Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

I had to disable ~30 services, adjust ~10 policies, uninstall ~30 useless apps, stop many scheduled tasks, and now it's barely functional with time to time crashes. (once a day)

This was part I was afraid of, even tho the OS is giving me Vertigo due to lags and bad design, but Windows 11 is literally impossible to run on this machine, and I can't imagine the bloat it will install which I'm sure will render my new PC useless if I buy any.

The issue is the never ending cycle, not just the Windows 10.

Pentium(R) Dual Core 2.60GHz
2GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT 1GB
HDD
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Chesmu 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:40 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.
Trollhammer 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:55 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.
Which games ?
Boblin the Goblin 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:58 
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.
AmsterdamHeavy 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:59 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Check my specs at the end of this writing. It did install after about 1 hour, I had 2 GPU glitches and 1 system crash, 3 BSODs, 1 hardware damage so far, which never happened in years while using Windows 7.



Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
I had to disable ~30 services, adjust ~10 policies, uninstall ~30 useless apps, stop many scheduled tasks, and now it's barely functional with time to time crashes. (once a day)

:ThinkingYellowFace:
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Chesmu 15. maj 2023 kl. 14:59 
Oprindeligt skrevet af SlowMango:
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!
Start_Running 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:01 
And yet other people are playing just fine.
Boblin the Goblin 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:01 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Oprindeligt skrevet af SlowMango:
Your hardware was released in 2008.

It predates Win 7.

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Haruspex 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:04 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:
Some of my games I played with light-speed are now lagging no matter what settings I adjust in-game or inside OS.

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.

This is largely because Windows 10 is stressing that 2 GB of RAM to the absolute limit and probably relying on the paging file. This leaves your computer waiting around for your hard drive to act like RAM and deliver the data it needs.

You might look into Tiny10[beebom.com], which strips away a lot of the extra stuff in Windows 10 and leaves it able to run more comfortably with minimal RAM. However it's unofficial and use-at-your-own-risk. It's most likely perfectly safe, but in the off-chance that the developer of Tiny10 put something sneaky in the OS I wouldn't use that PC for anything too important. Virustotal doesn't flag the iso for anything suspicious, for what it's worth.
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Aluvard 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:08 
Your hardware meets the minimum system requirements to get win 10 installed, but that's about it.
It would be wise to have at least 4 GB RAM and at least 250 GB of HDD to ensure it will run smoothly.
Like with games, minimum requirements don't mean comfortable use. They mean that you will launch OS, but the working quality may leave much to be desired.
Chesmu 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:10 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Harusp3x:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:

Pay attention to this part, this is very important.

This is largely because Windows 10 is stressing that 2 GB of RAM to the absolute limit and probably relying on the paging file. This leaves your computer waiting around for your hard drive to act like RAM and deliver the data it needs.

You might look into Tiny10[beebom.com], which strips away a lot of the extra stuff in Windows 10 and leaves it able to run more comfortably with minimal RAM. However it's unofficial and use-at-your-own-risk. It's most likely perfectly safe, but in the off-chance that the developer of Tiny10 put something sneaky in the OS I wouldn't use that PC for anything too important. Virustotal doesn't flag the iso for anything suspicious, for what it's worth.

My memory barely crosses 50% now, most of the time the system lags I check the state of PC and nothing hits 100%, sometimes CPU does. OS probably keeps running hidden tasks at background, connecting to servers and such by itself.
Thermal Lance 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:10 
Youll probably need to disable the graphics effects and set the OS in performance mode. I dont remember how but its somewhere in settings.
Takohashi 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:32 
Oprindeligt skrevet af SlowMango:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Chesmu:

Some of it is from 2006, yet only a Windows 10 OS could interrupt my gaming with it!


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.
Boblin the Goblin 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:35 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Takohashi:
Oprindeligt skrevet af SlowMango:


The point is the hardware is older than Win7 itself.

You're essentially building a WinXP computer and slapping Win10 on it.
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.


They do have the same specs.

Most people aren't running hardware that predates Win7.
Takohashi 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:41 
Oprindeligt skrevet af SlowMango:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Takohashi:
Well, many users have written here that "Win10 has the same system requirements as Win7" and "Win10 is faster than Win7 on the same hardware" :HappyMask:
OP, the problem is not with Win10, the problem is with your hardware. I'm sure that even your Steam client lagged (on Win7) and you turned on Low Performance Mode.


They do have the same specs.

Most people aren't running hardware that predates Win7.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that Win10 will work just as well on the same hardware. Well, I wrote in one of the topics that Win10 works very poorly (much worse than Win7) with an HDD and a small amount of RAM.
Wolfstorm 15. maj 2023 kl. 15:50 
OP is poor, uses a old computer and play old games, which are sold in the Steam store.
Yet Steam want to impose on him a system which don't work in his computer, and don't work with the games he plays.
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