Haven't Given Steam Money In Over A Year

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Feels good man. The reason: Community moderation, dishonest and defaming bans, junk games, more importantly failure to protect the consumer from EA scams.

Steam's totally anti-consumer. Until they turn it around Epic and others get my dollar.

[Realigo Actual]

If Valve was anybody else, you would be paying for Steam years ago.

There would be a billion different external account links for farming purposes.

There would be incentives to use Source.

There would be attempts to create revenue streams from Source tools like SFM.

There would be persistent ads for Valve and Source games.

There would have been partnerships aimed at going after other areas of the industry that others have a foothold in.

If Epic were to succeed with EGS, it would control game development at both ends. You're looking at an even worse monopoly than Valve, in the hands of a company with none of the counterculture dance-to-your-own-tune ♥♥♥♥ that Valve has.

Epic sells cheaper because it has nothing else to use. Loss leaders are done with expectation of return later. EGS is not going to be selling Costco hotdogs forever, unless you're paying for Unreal somehow, or paying for EGS.

Software is profitable, maybe the margin could be lower, but nobody in a position to bump Valve is to be trusted with a lower margin.

Cloud gaming will soon put immense pressure on things either way. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will not dominate.

[wbino]

Messaggio originale di Realigo Actual:

If Valve was anybody else, you would be paying for Steam years ago.

There would be a billion different external account links for farming purposes.

There would be incentives to use Source.

There would be attempts to create revenue streams from Source tools like SFM.

There would be persistent ads for Valve and Source games.

There would have been partnerships aimed at going after other areas of the industry that others have a foothold in.

If Epic were to succeed with EGS, it would control game development at both ends. You're looking at an even worse monopoly than Valve, in the hands of a company with none of the counterculture dance-to-your-own-tune ♥♥♥♥ that Valve has.

Epic sells cheaper because it has nothing else to use. Loss leaders are done with expectation of return later. EGS is not going to be selling Costco hotdogs forever, unless you're paying for Unreal somehow, or paying for EGS.

Software is profitable, maybe the margin could be lower, but nobody in a position to bump Valve is to be trusted with a lower margin.

Cloud gaming will soon put immense pressure on things either way. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will not dominate.

It's basically a monopoly now, with no way to virtually interact with the company, a faceless soulless money maker for the oligarch owner.

[Piston Smashed™]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

Messaggio originale di Realigo Actual:

If Valve was anybody else, you would be paying for Steam years ago.

There would be a billion different external account links for farming purposes.

There would be incentives to use Source.

There would be attempts to create revenue streams from Source tools like SFM.

There would be persistent ads for Valve and Source games.

There would have been partnerships aimed at going after other areas of the industry that others have a foothold in.

If Epic were to succeed with EGS, it would control game development at both ends. You're looking at an even worse monopoly than Valve, in the hands of a company with none of the counterculture dance-to-your-own-tune ♥♥♥♥ that Valve has.

Epic sells cheaper because it has nothing else to use. Loss leaders are done with expectation of return later. EGS is not going to be selling Costco hotdogs forever, unless you're paying for Unreal somehow, or paying for EGS.

Software is profitable, maybe the margin could be lower, but nobody in a position to bump Valve is to be trusted with a lower margin.

Cloud gaming will soon put immense pressure on things either way. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will not dominate.

It's basically a monopoly now, with no way to virtually interact with the company, a faceless soulless money maker for the oligarch owner.

You too could become an oligarch with pits of soulless money if you work really hard for decades but I guess you won't, you'll still be here in twenty years time complaining about how much someone has and you don't...

[Astra]

Lost me at Epic, at least say GOG, not Epic the wanna be monopoly and a pretty shady business, they are worse than EA

Newsflash no platform is your buddy nor cares about you, they are in it for profit, if they are giving you free stuff is because they still need to do so to get users

Steam is not the one trying to actively block people from buying games somewhere else (exclusivity), forcing people to download their app and make an account for games that aren't even theirs or accuse other business of being a monopoly when trying very hard to be a monopoly themselves

BTW you are still supporting Steam by using it

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di Astra:

Newsflash no platform is your buddy nor cares about you

"Steam (GOG, Epic, EA, Ubisoft...) is not your girlfriend"

[wbino]

Messaggio originale di Piston Smashed™:

Messaggio originale di wbino:

It's basically a monopoly now, with no way to virtually interact with the company, a faceless soulless money maker for the oligarch owner.

You too could become an oligarch with pits of soulless money if you work really hard for decades but I guess you won't, you'll still be here in twenty years time complaining about how much someone has and you don't...

Are you his Mommy?....lol....I love asp kissers...rich asp kissers are the worst.

[wbino]

Messaggio originale di Astra:

Lost me at Epic, at least say GOG, not Epic the wanna be monopoly and a pretty shady business, they are worse than EA

Newsflash no platform is your buddy nor cares about you, they are in it for profit, if they are giving you free stuff is because they still need to do so to get users

Steam is not the one trying to actively block people from buying games somewhere else (exclusivity), forcing people to download their app and make an account for games that aren't even theirs or accuse other business of being a monopoly when trying very hard to be a monopoly themselves

BTW you are still supporting Steam by using it

My model is to buy elsewhere unless forced to buy on Steam.
A soulless company with no human interactions...where does the money go?
I use the forums to push for freedom and when I see wrongs.

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

where does the money go?

Same place it goes when you buy elsewhere.

[crunchyfrog]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

Messaggio originale di Astra:

Lost me at Epic, at least say GOG, not Epic the wanna be monopoly and a pretty shady business, they are worse than EA

Newsflash no platform is your buddy nor cares about you, they are in it for profit, if they are giving you free stuff is because they still need to do so to get users

Steam is not the one trying to actively block people from buying games somewhere else (exclusivity), forcing people to download their app and make an account for games that aren't even theirs or accuse other business of being a monopoly when trying very hard to be a monopoly themselves

BTW you are still supporting Steam by using it

My model is to buy elsewhere unless forced to buy on Steam.
A soulless company with no human interactions...where does the money go?
I use the forums to push for freedom and when I see wrongs.

Thing is, what other companies in the same sphere are any better in the metrics you claim?

[Piston Smashed™]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

Messaggio originale di Piston Smashed™:

You too could become an oligarch with pits of soulless money if you work really hard for decades but I guess you won't, you'll still be here in twenty years time complaining about how much someone has and you don't...

Are you his Mommy?....lol....I love asp kissers...rich asp kissers are the worst.

He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.

[Astra]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

My model is to buy elsewhere unless forced to buy on Steam.
A soulless company with no human interactions...where does the money go?
I use the forums to push for freedom and when I see wrongs.

Forced? The only ones trying to force people to buy are those blocking games releases

Just buy where you want and use the platform that works best for you, something being more popular doesn't make it a monopoly

Every company is soulless and the money goes to their bank account just like any other business

You could just post on x or reddit, if you use those you don't support Steam and it has a better chance to be seen or do something than here

[Takohashi]

Messaggio originale di wbino:

Messaggio originale di Astra:

Lost me at Epic, at least say GOG, not Epic the wanna be monopoly and a pretty shady business, they are worse than EA

Newsflash no platform is your buddy nor cares about you, they are in it for profit, if they are giving you free stuff is because they still need to do so to get users

Steam is not the one trying to actively block people from buying games somewhere else (exclusivity), forcing people to download their app and make an account for games that aren't even theirs or accuse other business of being a monopoly when trying very hard to be a monopoly themselves

BTW you are still supporting Steam by using it

My model is to buy elsewhere unless forced to buy on Steam.
A soulless company with no human interactions...where does the money go?
I use the forums to push for freedom and when I see wrongs.

Very strange statement. I think Valve is the most customer-oriented company.