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[CEO Hunter]

Why is there no system on Steam to demo?

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

It's nowhere near a demo. Not even close, not even in a million years

And that changes nothing about what I said.

Yes, you talk about yourself. Wow, that's a big change for you from talking about yourself to now talking about yourself even more

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

It's nowhere near a demo. Not even close, not even in a million years

And that changes nothing about what I said.

Since you have 2,350 games I doubt you're selective.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

And that changes nothing about what I said.

Yes, you talk about yourself. Wow

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

And that changes nothing about what I said.

Since you have 2,350 games I doubt you're selective.

The talk between me and nameless was about each others viewpoint. So yes, we're talking about ourselves. I know reading and sticking to topics sometimes is hard for you, but please keep up.

I'm selective enough to not own CoH3, deary.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by WhitePhantom:

EA did it once with Dead Space allowing you to trial the full game for 90 minutes. It was only for that one game, and only for a limited time.

Creating a demo takes more work than you may think, and for some developers it won't be worth it. You shouldn't really need one anyway with the amount of resources we have available now allowing you to fully check out a new game before you buy it.

No Anthem also had demos.. Which funnily enough made me avoid that game same with Marvels Avengers i cancelled my pre order asap on that mess..

So that could be why devs wont do demos if they know their game is trash..

[Wolf Knight]

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

That's subjective. No comment Let's Plays have more than enough info for me, for example.

So, if you're watching a playthrough of someone breezing through "Hades" or "Dead Cells", would that give you accurate information on how the game feels? It wasn't good for me. I got bored by Hades in under 20 hours despite actually LIKING the roguelite genre. The research on that game was very misleading to me.

Let's play videos are someone else's experience. And experiences with a video game ARE subjective because the game feel is something we have to resonate with on a personal level.

20 hours of playtime to get bored with a game. a game demo for the game would not tell you that your going to get bored in 20 hours. there is NOTHING that would tell you that you would get bored in 20 hours playing any game except you actually playing the game for 20 hours. do you have a better argument then getting bored with in 20 hours? you did get your moneys worth if you played the game for 20 hours.

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Yes, you talk about yourself. Wow



Since you have 2,350 games I doubt you're selective.

The talk between me and nameless was about each others viewpoint. So yes, we're talking about ourselves. I know reading and sticking to topics sometimes is hard for you, but please keep up.

I'm selective enough to not own CoH3, deary.

You'll write anything as long as its pro-steam - everything steam does is golden etc.,

That's a whale consumer characteristic.

[TGC> The Games Collector]

But there are demos on Steam?

I mean, sure, they're not mandatory, but plenty of devs do actually make a demo, or even one of those prologue thingies.

[CEO Hunter]

Originally posted by TGC> The Games Collector:

But there are demos on Steam?

I mean, sure, they're not mandatory, but plenty of devs do actually make a demo, or even one of those prologue thingies.

I said there is no system.

No, a ""free weekend"" is a FOMO sales psy-op - not a demo system.

[fluxtorrent]

Because they don't have to. Next question

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

The talk between me and nameless was about each others viewpoint. So yes, we're talking about ourselves. I know reading and sticking to topics sometimes is hard for you, but please keep up.

I'm selective enough to not own CoH3, deary.

You'll write anything as long as its pro-steam - everything steam does is golden etc.,

That's a whale consumer characteristic.

You have absolutely no clue, lol. I consider Valve heavily overrated and Steam a necessary evil. Doesn't mean that everything either does is bad or wrong.

Or that a discussion about how a person does their research on game purchases is in any way related to Valve/Steam itself.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

Why is there no system on Steam to demo?

Now it's free weekends the thing we're angry at steam today?

There's no such system because devs don't want such systems. They can set up a demo, a free weekend or a 'prologue' which are now trendy.

They don't? Bug them off about it.

Or you can go and try demo games on the competition if you want to. Good luck with that.

[The nameless Gamer]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

So, if you're watching a playthrough of someone breezing through "Hades" or "Dead Cells", would that give you accurate information on how the game feels? It wasn't good for me. I got bored by Hades in under 20 hours despite actually LIKING the roguelite genre. The research on that game was very misleading to me.

Let's play videos are someone else's experience. And experiences with a video game ARE subjective because the game feel is something we have to resonate with on a personal level.

I actually have watched them about both games. I got all the info I wanted to know, yes.

For you it's not enough, that's fine. Other people exist, though.

It's not the same thing for all types of games. You can't pick up all types of games based off of videos. Especially games which have a high execution barrier. You can NOT get an accurate feeling of King of Fighters or Tekken from watching videos. You can't get an accurate feeling for most action roguelites from videos. You can't get an accurate feeling for any RTS game.

[The nameless Gamer]

Originally posted by Wolf Knight:

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

So, if you're watching a playthrough of someone breezing through "Hades" or "Dead Cells", would that give you accurate information on how the game feels? It wasn't good for me. I got bored by Hades in under 20 hours despite actually LIKING the roguelite genre. The research on that game was very misleading to me.

Let's play videos are someone else's experience. And experiences with a video game ARE subjective because the game feel is something we have to resonate with on a personal level.

20 hours of playtime to get bored with a game. a game demo for the game would not tell you that your going to get bored in 20 hours. there is NOTHING that would tell you that you would get bored in 20 hours playing any game except you actually playing the game for 20 hours. do you have a better argument then getting bored with in 20 hours? you did get your moneys worth if you played the game for 20 hours.

That's more an exception than a rule. This Next Fest I delisted a lot more games from my wishlist than I added BECAUSE the demos gave me an accurate impression of the game feel. Usually, I don't need 2 hours to figure out if I'll like a game or not. I can often tell in the first 10-30 minutes. And those games I delisted I found via youtube videos and Steam's recommendation algorithm as well as some looking up. Research was there, but the demos made all research obsolete because the game FEEL didn't sit with me. And you can get a feel ONLY from playing the game yourself.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Caravanseray:

No, a ""free weekend"" is a FOMO sales psy-op - not a demo system.

The only time you'd be close with that claim is if the game was being pulled permanently from sale when the free weekend finished. And I can count the number of times that's happened with an empty void.

[wesnef]

I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't need to buy any games - "being angry at Steam" seems like a full-time hobby/entertainment for them.

[log233when]

It depends on which games, some games do have demo versions. The developers, not Valve, made them