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Refund Policy says "No refund for more than two hours of playtime" WTH?
Played Planet Zoo for about 11 hours total. Had multiple crashes and just decided I didn't like the game. Tried to get a refund but Steam's policy of 2 hours playtime total, negated my request to get one. I'm not happy with the product within 3 days of having it and Steam won't give me a refund. Horrible business practice. I should be able to get a refund for this game within a more reasonable playtime restriction. Planet Zoo is not some game you conquer within a couple of hours. Highly disappointed at Steam Support. Out $58.99. Thanks Steam!
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I'm guessing you don't have accounts with other store launchers? Since 2hrs played & 2 wks owned is the standard policy.
If you actually read the rules, you would know that you could still request a manual refund review. Losing that money is on you, not Steam, as a result.
Автор сообщения: psladek1
Planet Zoo is not some game you conquer within a couple of hours.

Most games cannot be "conquered" in a couple of hours, but 120 minutes is generally more than sufficient for determining if a game works on your PC or not.
Refund policies - Take your pick.

1) Steam - Within two weeks of purchase and with less than two hours of playtime

2) Epic - Games and products are eligible for refund within 14 days of purchase. However, you must have less than 2 hours of runtime on record.

3) EA Play - Whichever comes first.

a) Within 24 hours after you first launch the game.

b) Within 14 days from the day you bought it, if you have not launched the game.

c) Within 14 days from the release date if you pre-ordered the game, if you haven't launched it yet.

4) Ubisoft (UPDATED) - You can request a refund for a digital PC game within 14 days of your purchase, as long as the game has not been played for more than two hours.

Previously it was: (You can request a refund for a digital order within 14 days of your purchase, as long as the content has not been launched).

5) Blizzard - The game is newly purchased within the last 3 days. You haven't started the game; if the game has been played at all it won't qualify for a refund.

6) GOG - starting now, you can get a full refund up to 30 days after purchasing a product, even if you downloaded, launched, and played it. That's it. (Open to abuse and they monitor for abuse and reserve the right to refuse a refund as do all PC stores).

GOG - https://ibb.co/ZzXPMwv
Refund policies aren't satisfaction guarantees, nor does it matter as much as you think that you're not happy with the product. You are responsible for ensuring you stay within the policy yourself, mind.
Do keep in mind that Valves policy is a courtesy policy as it exceeds what is required by law (0 hours is required, the 2 hours is courtesy).

You can try a manual ticket. Find the purchase, choose the "I have a question about this purchase" option and explain politely. They can still say "no", so keep that in mind.

If still a "no" and you don't like it, you can try things with your local consumer agency.
Автор сообщения: psladek1
Planet Zoo is not some game you conquer within a couple of hours.
The refund window is to see if the game works. Obviously it did otherwise you would not have put 11 hours into it.
The game crashed several times within the 2 hours. Played longer and got more frustrated. Obviously you don't know what your talking about. I'm the customer. I'm not happy with the product. I want a refund. Go shill somewhere else.
Автор сообщения: psladek1
The game crashed several times within the 2 hours. Played longer and got more frustrated. Obviously you don't know what your talking about. I'm the customer. I'm not happy with the product. I want a refund. Go shill somewhere else.
Ah, the "customer is always right" mentality. Shame it's a wrong mentality.

You should have refunded it within those 2 hours. The options you still have, have been mentioned in the thread.
Отредактировано Crazy Tiger; 16 мар. 2024 г. в 7:58
Автор сообщения: psladek1
Played Planet Zoo for about 11 hours total. Had multiple crashes and just decided I didn't like the game. Tried to get a refund but Steam's policy of 2 hours playtime total, negated my request to get one. I'm not happy with the product within 3 days of having it and Steam won't give me a refund. Horrible business practice. I should be able to get a refund for this game within a more reasonable playtime restriction. Planet Zoo is not some game you conquer within a couple of hours. Highly disappointed at Steam Support. Out $58.99. Thanks Steam!
The playtime restriction is reasonable.. SOmething being reasonable is not predicated on you agreeing with it.


Автор сообщения: psladek1
The game crashed several times within the 2 hours. Played longer and got more frustrated. Obviously you don't know what your talking about. I'm the customer. I'm not happy with the product. I want a refund. Go shill somewhere else.
So you chose not to refund within the first 2 hours in spite of the problems, but then went on to play another 9 hours....


Yeah that's on you m8.

You may have gotten away with 4 with a good reasoning, but past 10 ...yeah no one's gonna refund you on that.

You not being happyu is your business. The store and the publisher are only responsible for giving you the product you indicated as sdescribed. You being happy with it, is your own business.

Don't blame others for your lack of timely action.
As someone who has worked in customer service retail, I can tell you most of the time the customer is not only wrong, but also has no idea what they want.
The "Customer is Always Right" phrase was born via meaning that the customer knows what they want better then the employees knowing what the customer wants.
But in my experience, the customers tend to have no idea most of the time.
Автор сообщения: psladek1
The game crashed several times within the 2 hours. Played longer and got more frustrated. Obviously you don't know what your talking about. I'm the customer. I'm not happy with the product. I want a refund. Go shill somewhere else.


then go to the people that made it and demand it

then sue when they say no (or be happy in the unlikely event they say yes)

this is an online store for digital products (mostly)

steam does not buy then resell the game

after a certain amount of time, the money is in the hands of the devs/pubs of the game

so try this

Автор сообщения: Crazy Tiger
you can try a manual ticket. Find the purchase, choose the "I have a question about this purchase" option and explain politely. They can still say "no", so keep that in mind.

If still a "no" and you don't like it, you can try things with your local consumer agency.

remember the polite part

the person at the other end is not the one that made the game

nor are they the one selling it

they are the one hired to try and help you
Автор сообщения: psladek1
The game crashed several times within the 2 hours.

So why did you keep playing and not refund after the second crash? More so if you weren't enjoying it? You've only got yourself to blame for not getting a refund here.
I once tried to get Call of Duty Vanguard working, I couldn't even get to the menu screen without it crashing to desktop. After trying all of the so-called fixes and the game crashing like 30 times of me trying to get it working. I did everything possible and knew the game wasn't going to work so I decided that enough is enough and refunded the game, this all happened within 30 minutes or so of game time.

It doesn't take long to realise if a game is going to be problematic especially if you are having trouble from the get-go.
Sorry but you AGREED to these terms. That's how contracts work.

You cannot say it's crap AFTER the fact.

If you haven't worked out it's bad within 2 hours, then you can appeal with a DISCRETIONARY request but I doubt you'd get it with that many hours played.
With all due and undue respect to my respondents, it's not about "the customer is always right". It's just about playing a game that doesn't meet my expectations. It has major flaws and shouldn't be on the market if it crashes for many of it's consumers. What you think is a reasonable amount of game time to see if it runs on my computer is just your opinion. 10 hours total on any game is a blip. I played more than the two hours hoping these problems would go away, but they didn't. I opened two refund requests and just got "sorry you played more than two hours". I don't agree with the policy. Your opinions are just that, opinions. How many Steam customers have put down their bought games with no refunds because of crashes. Please.
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