competition from epic games is forcing valve to update its client and add new features

[Rain]

nice .

[LAPIII]

What Steam should definitely adopt that that Epic Games does is remove games from the account without permanently deleting the games.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Messaggio originale di LAPIII:

What Steam should definitely adopt that that Epic Games does is remove games from the account without permanently deleting the games.

Steam support it since 2015.

Visit steam help page > Search for game > select the game > I want to permanently remove this game from my account, now game removed from your library. It doesn't actually delete the game from your account, you can restore it.

To restore delete game visit steam help page > search for game > select the game > not in my library > select restore game, that it game restored on your library hence game doesn't get deleted off the account, it's just advance form of hiding your game.

[The Brown Hornet]

Messaggio originale di Mad Scientist:

Messaggio originale di Dilynwrcrist:

Epic Store has 230M registered users, and 68M monthly active users, its serious competition for Steam, which is a good thing for everyone, competition is needed to avoid stagnation.

I wonder how many of those accounts have actually purchased something, compared to the ones just grabbing the free games.

I try not to purchase anything at Steam, 90% of my games are third party stores and sellers, hence what PC gaming is all about. Store and platform loyalty is nonsense, I wouldn't care if there were 10 more stores just like steam and epic, whoever got the best deals, bargains, specials, etc... that's where I'm buying.

[vizthex]

Messaggio originale di The Brown Hornet:

Messaggio originale di Mad Scientist:

I wonder how many of those accounts have actually purchased something, compared to the ones just grabbing the free games.

I try not to purchase anything at Steam, 90% of my games are third party stores and sellers, hence what PC gaming is all about. Store and platform loyalty is nonsense, I wouldn't care if there was 10 more stores just like steam and epic, whoever got the best deals, bargains, specials, etc... that's where I'm buying.

god, that sounds absolutely dreadful. Having to juggle like half a dozen launchers just to find the one game you want sounds like torture.

[cinedine]

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

Messaggio originale di The Brown Hornet:

I try not to purchase anything at Steam, 90% of my games are third party stores and sellers, hence what PC gaming is all about. Store and platform loyalty is nonsense, I wouldn't care if there was 10 more stores just like steam and epic, whoever got the best deals, bargains, specials, etc... that's where I'm buying.

god, that sounds absolutely dreadful. Having to juggle like half a dozen launchers just to find the one game you want sounds like torture.

Desktop shortcuts. Or starting from start menu.
The idea to even need a launcher is the ridiculous one.

[vizthex]

Messaggio originale di cinedine:

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

god, that sounds absolutely dreadful. Having to juggle like half a dozen launchers just to find the one game you want sounds like torture.

Desktop shortcuts. Or starting from start menu.
The idea to even need a launcher is the ridiculous one.

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di WolfEisberg:

Playnite and GOG Galaxy say "Hi, we are the solution"

GOG Galaxy doesn't even work with Steam these days. Uplay is totally broken. If GOG cared about this actual headline feature, they woudln't be relying on one guy in the community and hoping they fix things whenever Valve changes anything. And no even if it 'works now' (it doesn't as you have to search github and hope you hit the actual repo discussion to find the actual plugin that works) its a literal guarantee it will break in the future and that you can only pray that some rando in the GOG community bothers to do anything about it a second time around.

At least Playnite actually supports its headlining features

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di WolfEisberg:

It does work with Steam, the integration has been updated some months ago. Uplay is also still working, looks like that was fixed some months ago too.

GOG only does official integration when the company is willing to help with it, like what Epic and Microsoft are willing to do. Wouldn't doubt its due to legal reasons.

And again this is the same level of stupidity as Novell was doing where they claimed "Well MS implementation of Kerberos isnt' standard so we don't ahve to integrate with them". Sorry as the tiny fish in a big ocean, you don't get to dictate the terms of how your product integrates.

And what do I hope that this doesn't magically break in the future? Hope some other random person on GOG decides to 'fix' Steam or Uplay again when it breaks? Or maybe wait months for no response from anyone?

If GOG is going to 100% not actually care about Steam integration to the point where the feature breaks for several months and only works one when random guy decides to do something about it, then they should stop advertising it as a headlining feature of their client. I would consider this false advertising for 'legal reasons'.

At least Playnite pretends to actually care about the features they purport to support.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

The reason I only suggest Gog is if have less than 2k games from other services, once start going above certain point from a single library, it becomes a problem because it has to massively sync huge library, redownload images all over again, and fill in blank boxes with info for local usage.

Epic shouldn't be an issue, as most people that been collecting free games are likely to be 100 ~ 400+ games, people from Steam a bigger issue if have games 2k, or higher as notice right away whole client lags/freeze, can't do anything until it stops syncing this happens everytime you launch the damn client which is a problem, and there no option to disable auto syncing when launching to solve this whole problem, not only that, but if a plugin breaks, or lost verification session, there no way to fix it, have to unlink library to wiping whole library for said service, then resync it all back so basically a huge hassle just using Gog if have huge libaray. The work arounds don't even fix the problem either, just same hassle have to keep doing it whenever it happens.

So I often suggest Playnite not only it does everything what people asked for such as reverifying login session, it also allow you to not auto sync everytime you launch it, and has more features, including controller support at the very least if want a couch experience, and if want to take things further you can, can make changes to the whole client of playnite from how it display things, and UI theme.

[NakiBest]

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

Messaggio originale di cinedine:

Desktop shortcuts. Or starting from start menu.
The idea to even need a launcher is the ridiculous one.

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Try Stardock Fences. :)

Now you have 300, 400, 500 icons, double click any empty area - now you don't. :-D

(You can have between 0 and whatever number of desktop icons to show when all else is hidden. For example, on this PC of mine I have set This PC, Control Panel, Recycle Bin, Network and my user folder shortcut to always show, and everything else to get hidden.)

If you think your single or dual display(s) cannot fit 300, 400+ icons, do not worry - Fences allows for several pages of icons. :)

[The Brown Hornet]

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

Messaggio originale di cinedine:

Desktop shortcuts. Or starting from start menu.
The idea to even need a launcher is the ridiculous one.

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Then play in the closed environment of console gaming. The whole purpose of PC gaming is open platform.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Messaggio originale di The Brown Hornet:

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Then play in the closed environment of console gaming. The whole purpose of of PC gaming is open platform.

True, but also I get what he saying he doesn't like to juggle more things than needed.

The cool thing about open platform is games shouldn't need to be locked to said store only, so if they want to keep most of their games in one place they can do that, if someone just want the best possible deals across anywhere they can do that too, and I see nothing wrong in that at all.

So far I save thousands of dollars mostly just buying game keys, which yeah happens to be for Steam, but hey at least make it easier to manage my library in one place at the least, but still wouldn't be near this amount of games if it wasn't for key sites like humble bundle, and such.

Just thinking about it if I bought 4500 games on console that could be equivalent enough to buy a brand new Electric Car lmao, as far I seen for deals on console games, they're not the greatest half the time, compare to key sites for PC.

[cinedine]

Messaggio originale di NakiBest:

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Try Stardock Fences. :)

Now you have 300, 400, 500 icons, double click any empty area - now you don't. :-D

(You can have between 0 and whatever number of desktop icons to show when all else is hidden. For example, on this PC of mine I have set This PC, Control Panel, Recycle Bin, Network and my user folder shortcut to always show, and everything else to get hidden.)

If you think your single or dual display(s) cannot fit 300, 400+ icons, do not worry - Fences allows for several pages of icons. :)

Make a directory, put the symlinks in, link that folder in your taskbar (possible at least under Windows and some Linux distros). You can add the same categories and subcategories and go crazy with it, use search and have mutiple links for one game in different categories.

Again: the idea that you *need* a launcher to manage your games is just asine.
(Also how many of those 300 games does one actually play to need a easily accessible shortcut for?)

[vizthex]

Messaggio originale di NakiBest:

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Try Stardock Fences. :)

Now you have 300, 400, 500 icons, double click any empty area - now you don't. :-D

(You can have between 0 and whatever number of desktop icons to show when all else is hidden. For example, on this PC of mine I have set This PC, Control Panel, Recycle Bin, Network and my user folder shortcut to always show, and everything else to get hidden.)

If you think your single or dual display(s) cannot fit 300, 400+ icons, do not worry - Fences allows for several pages of icons. :)

or i could just.... use Steam. Like i have been for almost a decade.

[vizthex]

Messaggio originale di The Brown Hornet:

Messaggio originale di vizthex:

i'm not managing almost 300 desktop shortcuts. Absolutely hate having a cluttered desktop. Looks dreadful and is even worse to use.

Then play in the closed environment of console gaming. The whole purpose of PC gaming is open platform.

so i'm not allowed to choose what i want to use on the open platform of PC gaming?

alright then.

consoles still have the problem of managing a ton of shortcuts on the home menu btw. Not every game has a physical print (i think only maybe a third or so of the games I own on Steam have physical copies - and many of them aren't even on consoles).