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[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI
Thanks to this post
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237
by User
https://steamcommunity.com/id/lightwo




Im on Win7, dont know exactly how the first steps will looks on newest Windows
In short

  • Close completely Steam
  • Create Shortcut for Steam.exe
  • Right Click on Shortcut
  • Properties
  • Target (It should have path to original .exe file)
    I have "C:\Steam\steam.exe" or Default "C:\Program Files\Steam"
  • Paste This in after Path from previous step (It will download old version of Steam)
    -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl http://web.archive.org/web/20230531113527if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam
  • Open Steam via Shortcut
  • Wait until it finish update and will close
  • Delete previously pasted code (remember to not delete path to .exe file)
  • Open Steam Main Folder
    Default "C:\Program Files\Steam" or Your Location
  • In this folder create File "steam.cfg" (.cfg Needs To Be File Extension, not steam.cfg.txt)
  • Paste This in our "steam.cfg" File (It will prevent form Automatic Updates)
    BootStrapperInhibitAll=Enable
    BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=False

  • Open Steam, should looks normal again

    I think its everything
    It looks normally, dont know if every function on Steam will work
    If You want to again download Newest Version, delete "steam.cfg" from Main Steam Folder




    Again, Special Thanks to lightwo
    Publicado originalmente por lightwo:
    Also, a note to anyone who wants to use the instructions as per the OP: if you don't use Windows, edit the URL to replace the date (after /web/, before if_) with one of these:
    • Linux: 20230531115543
    • macOS: 20230531120503


    And also Special Thanks to Radoo, from pinned comment below for other alternative solution
Última edición por Wikarian99PL; 16 JUN 2023 a las 11:52
Publicado originalmente por Pepe:
OP Alternative - Start Steam in VGUI Mode Using Initial CEF Steam Release

In June, this option was just easier, as it wasn't involving using a different client. Now... <insert HowTurntables meme>.


Note that the Friends List is not working properly. It might not work at all or it might work intermittently. Sometimes I saw it working after a retry, sometimes it didn't, after several retries. I couldn't find any reproducible steps to make it work. I've read a few people saying it's working fine, but I'm not sure if they use the old build from OP or the newer CEF build with -vgui. You could try...
- closing and opening Friends List window;
- using the retry button that appears after the error shows up;
- changing your status from the Friends List window, somehow (I couldn't make it work, I had no dropdown list available).
Publicado originalmente por anon_amos:
I may have a fix for the friends list not working with the -vgui option. Open Friends & Chat and click Sign In. It will disappear and appear to have not connected.

Open the Friends & Chat again and you should notice that it now says 'Offline'. Click the drop down and select Online.

You should now be connected and your Friends List should appear.

Later Edit 6 (2023-09-10 UTC): Due to sheer volume of unmoderated trolling (plus being modded myself for "Disrespectful Post" while stating the obvious about the main troll here), I won't be answering any new questions on this subject. I've unsubscribed from this thread. If you have any questions, please read the whole thread, from top to bottom, maybe the question was posted and answered before.

The most common question of value that I can remember is about installing another version that the ones posted. Yes, it is possible, if you search for the specific date when that version was published on web archive.

Publicado originalmente por Radoo:
Publicado originalmente por Limbert:
This is great! Is it possible to revert back to before they messed up the steam controller gyro in May/June (not sure exactly which version)?
Sure, if you know when it happened...
1. Try to find a snapshot from
a) here https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/media.steampowered.com
... or ...
b) here (looking for when the Windows client was backed up might reveal a better snapshot for the updates files which are under https://media.steampowered.com/client and can't be listed) https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/SteamSetup.exe
2. From that snapshot URL, just copy the timestamp part
Example:
... copy ...
20230329081100
3. Run the downgrade command with the changed URL, modifying the timestamp part
Example:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230616124219if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam
... changed URL ...
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230329081100if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam

Another interesting aspect of keeping the memory to its lowest is enabling Family View. One helpful user did a test on this.

Publicado originalmente por SAUNA:
Publicado originalmente por Radoo:
That gave me an idea. What if you run Steam using Family View, disabling access to "Steam store", "Community-generated content", "Friends, chat and groups", "My online profile, screenshots, and achievements". How much better Steam would run? Did anyone try it out?
Steam client application
Built: Jun 15 2023
Steam API: v020
Steam package versions: 1686880776

Family view OFF:
323.2 - 383.2 MB large mode, open

Family view ON:
223.1 - 259 MB small mode, minimized on task bar.


First number is just after launch, after a while it grows and seems to stop there.

My toaster specs:

Intel Core i3
4Gb RAM
Win10 32bit

(dont judge me XD)

Later Edit 5 (2023-08-02 UTC): The latest Steam release from 2023-08-01 has removed the -vgui option. This means that for this alternative method to work you will need June/July Steam version which still has the newer underlying CEF - that will allow for newer authentication method in the long run - but also has the -vgui option.

Clean Installation
Clean installation is intended for people with no Steam installed at all or people who have issues when trying to downgrade. Skip to Downgrade to Older CEF Steam Version with VGUI Option otherwise.

As most people already have Steam installed and the few links found weren't tested enough by people, the clean install steps will be deferred for now

If you need a clean installation, you could try these download links. After the initial installation, you could continue with the Downgrade steps, as the forced downgrade steps were tested.

Windows Steam Client Install Files

Both links download the same client.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/https://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/SteamSetup.exe
SHA256SUM: 3b616cb0beaacffb53884b5ba0453312d2577db598d2a877a3b251125fb281a1 SteamSetup.exe
https://web.archive.org/web/20230616124219if_/https://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/SteamSetup.exe
SHA256SUM: 3b616cb0beaacffb53884b5ba0453312d2577db598d2a877a3b251125fb281a1 SteamSetup.exe

There were two reports of failing to run Steam: "Steam - Critical error. Fail to load steamui.dll". This issue is fixed by "downgrading" using the Windows Downgrade Steps to Older CEF Steam Version with VGUI Option from below.


GNU/Linux Steam Client Deb Files for Debian Based Distros
(E.g. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint)

Packages differ based on the link used. First one should contain the 21 June client, second one the 16 June one.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/https://repo.steampowered.com/steam/archive/precise/steam_latest.deb
SHA256SUM: 456c200c00f7cae57db06d2067fbdb1fa3727eb6744371827913c4cf82d507a0 steam_latest.deb
https://web.archive.org/web/20230618205131if_/https://repo.steampowered.com/steam/archive/precise/steam_latest.deb
SHA256SUM: 4e0a3c80bbaec9387983f025a4f4cff48dbeb46be38af33033877352f0a59bdc steam_latest.deb

* for Fedora and Arch distros, if you don't want to use the downgrade steps, the solution is to find the archived version from the distro repos - I don't think we've got any updates yet, usually packages are updated later, depending on the maintainer. Note that (at least on Fedora) some distros will not keep old package versions for long. You should save the old package locally in a safe place (not the main system partition - e.g. home dir if it's o a separate partition than root (/), a kits partition you might have, on an USB sick/drive, on a NAS).


MacOS Steam Client Install Files

Both links download the same client.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/https://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.dmg
SHA256SUM: 5f55670c91afd3603a8a10d82a179da90744fca98f0106647891ee740ea84ba3 steam.dmg
https://web.archive.org/web/20230714110541if_/https://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.dmg
SHA256SUM: 5f55670c91afd3603a8a10d82a179da90744fca98f0106647891ee740ea84ba3 steam.dmg


Downgrade to Older CEF Steam Version with VGUI Option

Windows Downgrade Steps to Older CEF Steam Version with VGUI Option
This requires Steam client to be already installed.
I need people to test this. Let me know the build date and size of download. Also let me know if the Steam pop-up message is correct for Steam Client Updates. Thanks!
# 1 - Disable auto updates # Go to your Steam installation directory (default C:\Program Files\Steam or - for 32 bit client on a 64 bit Windows - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam) and create a file named steam.cfg with the following contents BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable # 2 - Downgrade client # ... for 32 bit client on 32 bit Windows # Unknown build (Windows) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be unknown KB "C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 2b - ALTERNATIVE SNAPSHOT LINK - ? SAME CLIENT - Downgrade client # Unknown build (Windows) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be unknown KB "C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230616124219if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # ... for 32 bit client on a 64 bit Windows # Unknown build (Windows) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be unknown KB "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 2b - ALTERNATIVE SNAPSHOT LINK - ? SAME CLIENT - Downgrade client # Unknown build (Windows) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be unknown KB "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230616124219if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 3 - Run steam with VGUI # ... 32 bit client on 32 bit Windows "C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe" -vgui # ... for 32 bit client on a 64 bit Windows "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -vgui # 4 - Check that updates are disabled # a. Go to Steam > Check for Steam Client Updates... # b. You should get this pop-up window: "Steam client updates have been disabled by a command line switch."


GNU/Linux Downgrade Steps to Older CEF Steam version with VGUI Option
This requires Steam client to be already installed.
# 1 - Disable auto updates printf 'BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable ' > ~/.local/share/Steam/steam.cfg cat ~/.local/share/Steam/steam.cfg # in case you found a solution using ~/.steam/steam, it is the same thing, ~/.steam/steam is a symlink to ~/.local/share/Steam # 2 - Downgrade client # 21 June 2023 build (GNU/Linux) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be 371,644 KB steam -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 2b - ALTERNATIVE SNAPSHOT LINK - OLDER CLIENT - Downgrade client # 16 June 2023 build (GNU/Linux) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be 371,738 KB steam -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230618205131if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 3 - Run steam with VGUI steam -vgui # 4 - Check that updates are disabled # a. Go to Steam > Check for Steam Client Updates... # b. You should get this pop-up window: "Steam client updates have been disabled by a command line switch."


MacOS Downgrade Steps to Older CEF Steam version with VGUI Option
This requires Steam client to be already installed.
# 1 - Disable auto updates - use Terminal printf 'BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable ' > ~/Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/Steam.cfg cat ~/Applications/Steam.app/Contents/MacOS/Steam.cfg # 2 - Downgrade client - first time, it might have cached the latest client update (it happened to me and got a 275,885 KB size), try again afterwards # 10 July 2023 build (macOS) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be 274,306 KB open -a Steam --args -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125953if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 2b - ALTERNATIVE SNAPSHOT LINK - SAME CLIENT - Downgrade client # 10 July 2023 build (macOS) - on Valve's GUI, download size should be 274,306 KB open -a Steam --args -forcesteamupdate -forcepackagedownload -overridepackageurl https://web.archive.org/web/20230714110541if_/media.steampowered.com/client -exitsteam # 3 - Run steam with VGUI open -a Steam --args -vgui # 4 - Check that updates are disabled # a. Go to Steam > Check for Steam Client Updates... # b. You should get this pop-up window: "Your Steam client is already up-to-date."





Initial Content
Here, you will find more info about Custom Skins Q&A, StartUp options and alternative ways to block the updates.


Easier Workaround for now (though it seems like Friends List is not working all the time): start Steam in VGUI mode.

GNU/Linux & Windows*
steam -vgui

macOS**
open -a steam --args -vgui

* Windows not tested tested by other users
** macOS High Sierra tested




Later Edit: Wow! Thanks for all the awards. Now I feel like I have to tell the story on how I found out about this option:
1. After updating Steam on the newest GNU/Linux PC, I was browsing the new UI drama topics, posting along like most people reading this, and then decided to upgrade my pretty old Mac as well, just to be greeted with black windows
2. Looking up for black windows, screen, something, I found this topic on Steam For Mac, all caps: BLACKSCREEN, and inside this user had come up with a workaround: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/2/6516193260165563446/#c6516193260168282748
3. From there, I've did a bit of research on what that option meant, what other options are there and testing it out on my GNU/Linux machine. References:
- VGUI https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/VGUI_Documentation
- Steam options: from this user's post https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/616189106612574150/#c2989789048621125077 to this list https://gist.github.com/xPaw/fe7d275d31da14d70481
- new CEF based GUI engine: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Framework
Probably, there were other sources I've seen while trying things out, but these are the main ones.

Thanks again for the awards! If you can, please share your love with the users referenced in the Steam Community links.


Later Edit 2: Sorry OP for the mish mash of posts in this topic between the hard solution you posted and the temporary one I wrote. In the end, both are helping someone, both are trying to tackle the same problem, and any of them can be used, for now. It just depends on how much somebody wants to go to stay away from the new UI.


Later Edit 3 (2023-06-17 UTC): Additional info coming from users posts on the topic:

Custom Skins
Publicado originalmente por Crystal Sharrd:
Publicado originalmente por Crystal Sharrd:
Does -vgui enable custom skins again?
To answer my own question, it does.


StartUp Options other than running from a Command Line Terminal

Windows - Application Shortcut
Publicado originalmente por Wiawyr:
Publicado originalmente por madelai:
Where do I put that code at? Do I include "steam" as well or just "-vgui".
For the shortcut, after the "filepath" in Target, put a space and then -vgui.

Windows - Run Steam when my computer starts
Publicado originalmente por JermioneGranger:
I posted this in the other discussion, but I'll post it here also.

If you have Steam launch when Windows starts, you can make it start with -vgui by adding it to the Steam registry entry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

It will take effect the next time you restart Windows

GNU/Linux - Run Steam when my computer starts
Publicado originalmente por Radoo:
On GNU/Linux...

1. when you check "Run Steam when my computer starts", Steam creates a desktop file called steam.desktop in ~/.config/autostart/. So modifying that should give you the equivalent of Windows settings;

# Force Steam VGUI on computer startup sed -r 's#^(Exec=/usr/bin/steam %U)$#\1 -vgui#' -i ~/.config/autostart/steam.desktop # Revert Steam VGUI settings on computer startup sed -r 's#^(Exec=/usr/bin/steam %U) -vgui$#\1#' -i ~/.config/autostart/steam.desktop

GNU/Linux - Change Steam to work with VGUI in any situation
Publicado originalmente por Radoo:
On GNU/Linux...

2. if you want to make this work "globally", even when manually opening Steam, even from the terminal, instead of editing your Desktop/Launch bar shortcut, you can edit the steam file, which is actually a bash file.

# Force Steam VGUI globally sudo su -c 'sed -r '\''s#^(exec "\$LAUNCHSTEAMDIR/\$STEAMBOOTSTRAP" "\$@")$#\1 -vgui#'\'' -i /usr/bin/steam' # Revert Steam VGUI settings globally sudo su -c 'sed -r '\''s#^(exec "\$LAUNCHSTEAMDIR/\$STEAMBOOTSTRAP" "\$@") -vgui$#\1#'\'' -i /usr/bin/steam'


Later Edit 4 (2023-07-24 UTC): Just a heads up, I saw a few reports on the forums about -vgui option not working anymore in the latest Beta. Valve might be killing this alternative in the next update.

Anyone with limited resources should try to block any updates from now forward or just go with OP's solution.

Info found on how to block updates
Publicado originalmente por Wikarian99PL:
  • Open Steam Main Folder
    Default "C:\Program Files\Steam" or Your Location
  • In this folder create File "steam.cfg" (.cfg Needs To Be File Extension, not steam.cfg.txt)
  • Paste This in our "steam.cfg" File (It will prevent form Automatic Updates)
    BootStrapperInhibitAll=Enable
    BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=False
Publicado originalmente por _I_:
you can stop steam from updating

open folder
..\steam\package
delete the 'tmp' folder if there is one

create a file named 'tmp' with no extension

then steam cannot make the tmp folder to update its client files
done
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tyl0413 27 SEP 2023 a las 16:04 
Publicado originalmente por tharos:
Any solution for not being able to download CS2 without a newer Steam version?
Downloads fine on May 30th Client, not sure if it'll play tho.
Edit: No matchmaking can not connect on May 30th VGUI Client.
Frost ⛟ 28 SEP 2023 a las 23:31 
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
Patchy >:3 28 SEP 2023 a las 23:33 
Publicado originalmente por Frost:
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
no CS or dota? yo, that's great
Publicado originalmente por Frost:
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
First people using the old version of steam lost Friends List .. now matchmaking.. it seems it really is exactly as I predicted: Slowly they are removing functions for the old steam client one at a time. I wonder what will be removed next. Hrmm.
Mountain Months 28 SEP 2023 a las 23:36 
Publicado originalmente por Frost:
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
they're doing you a favor
8-The-General-8 29 SEP 2023 a las 0:21 
Publicado originalmente por Mountain Months:
Publicado originalmente por Frost:
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
they're doing you a favor

lol....

I think that piece of info at bottom of OP's post was added recently? I can see Steam hitting 1gb memory now at times so must have reverted somewhere : (
bidulless 29 SEP 2023 a las 3:25 
hello

no clue but matchmaking under cs2 seems working,using old steam release ( april ) i can join a lobby and also get kicked by the owner of the lobby i joined , because, well i am level 0 xD
Última edición por bidulless; 29 SEP 2023 a las 3:33
tyl0413 29 SEP 2023 a las 6:11 
I installed the latest version (Sep 12th at the time of writing) to try CS2 and it's horrible. Lag and glitches all over the place, 1GB idle RAM use, 1.5GB while in-game. The overlay is extremely ugly, every click takes like 3 seconds to process at the very least. Back button goes back to Library/Store page when im trying to go one page back on the forum, it's so much less functional.
Did a full backup of my May 30th Client and now I'm back on there with old friends list.

That's the trend in software development now, how can everything waste as many resources for as little functionality as possible and having a ugly phone UI.
Uplay was great, Connect is much worse, current Beta is a disaster.
Origin was great, EA Desktop is barely functional.
GFWL worked 99% of the time, the Windows Store never does.
VGUI era Steam used to be the peak example of how functional software should be made and now it's yet another annoying, ugly, broken ripoff of the rest of this trash industry.
GOG Galaxy 2 is worse than 1.2 too especially since it was abandoned but guess what 1.2 still works and you don't even need to use it to begin with so once again, major L for DRM platforms today.

I don't use epic anymore and criticized them relentlessly in early 2019 for the absolute trash UI but I really do wonder how it holds up after 4 years worth of updates, did they actually go out of their way like everyone else to make sure it remains the worst or did they just leave it as is which may mean it's among the more functional clients in current year, funny how things work, also quite sad..
Shinoskay 29 SEP 2023 a las 6:36 
Publicado originalmente por tyl0413:
I installed the latest version (Sep 12th at the time of writing) to try CS2 and it's horrible. Lag and glitches all over the place, 1GB idle RAM use, 1.5GB while in-game. The overlay is extremely ugly, every click takes like 3 seconds to process at the very least. Back button goes back to Library/Store page when im trying to go one page back on the forum, it's so much less functional.
Did a full backup of my May 30th Client and now I'm back on there with old friends list.

That's the trend in software development now, how can everything waste as many resources for as little functionality as possible and having a ugly phone UI.
Uplay was great, Connect is much worse, current Beta is a disaster.
Origin was great, EA Desktop is barely functional.
GFWL worked 99% of the time, the Windows Store never does.
VGUI era Steam used to be the peak example of how functional software should be made and now it's yet another annoying, ugly, broken ripoff of the rest of this trash industry.
GOG Galaxy 2 is worse than 1.2 too especially since it was abandoned but guess what 1.2 still works and you don't even need to use it to begin with so once again, major L for DRM platforms today.

I don't use epic anymore and criticized them relentlessly in early 2019 for the absolute trash UI but I really do wonder how it holds up after 4 years worth of updates, did they actually go out of their way like everyone else to make sure it remains the worst or did they just leave it as is which may mean it's among the more functional clients in current year, funny how things work, also quite sad..
can you share that back up?
H1ƤהѲƬ1ℂ 29 SEP 2023 a las 6:40 
Publicado originalmente por tyl0413:
I installed the latest version (Sep 12th at the time of writing) to try CS2 and it's horrible. Lag and glitches all over the place, 1GB idle RAM use, 1.5GB while in-game. The overlay is extremely ugly, every click takes like 3 seconds to process at the very least. Back button goes back to Library/Store page when im trying to go one page back on the forum, it's so much less functional.
Did a full backup of my May 30th Client and now I'm back on there with old friends list.

VGUI era Steam used to be the peak example of how functional software should be made and now it's yet another annoying, ugly, broken ripoff of the rest of this trash industry.

True.

After months they still didn't fix the back button, unreal. How the ♥♥♥♥ they realeased this crap UI??
tyl0413 29 SEP 2023 a las 6:41 
Publicado originalmente por Shinoskay:
Publicado originalmente por tyl0413:
I installed the latest version (Sep 12th at the time of writing) to try CS2 and it's horrible. Lag and glitches all over the place, 1GB idle RAM use, 1.5GB while in-game. The overlay is extremely ugly, every click takes like 3 seconds to process at the very least. Back button goes back to Library/Store page when im trying to go one page back on the forum, it's so much less functional.
Did a full backup of my May 30th Client and now I'm back on there with old friends list.

That's the trend in software development now, how can everything waste as many resources for as little functionality as possible and having a ugly phone UI.
Uplay was great, Connect is much worse, current Beta is a disaster.
Origin was great, EA Desktop is barely functional.
GFWL worked 99% of the time, the Windows Store never does.
VGUI era Steam used to be the peak example of how functional software should be made and now it's yet another annoying, ugly, broken ripoff of the rest of this trash industry.
GOG Galaxy 2 is worse than 1.2 too especially since it was abandoned but guess what 1.2 still works and you don't even need to use it to begin with so once again, major L for DRM platforms today.

I don't use epic anymore and criticized them relentlessly in early 2019 for the absolute trash UI but I really do wonder how it holds up after 4 years worth of updates, did they actually go out of their way like everyone else to make sure it remains the worst or did they just leave it as is which may mean it's among the more functional clients in current year, funny how things work, also quite sad..
can you share that back up?
My Steam folder without games is 16GB, it has a ton of old stuff, modified files, identifying files and I'm too lazy to clean it up. You should be able to use the launch command to force update server as a Wayback Machine URL of media.steampowered.com from back then to pull a clean install of the May 30th Client (or whichever you prefer).
asha* 29 SEP 2023 a las 7:15 
Publicado originalmente por bidulless:
hello

no clue but matchmaking under cs2 seems working,using old steam release ( april ) i can join a lobby and also get kicked by the owner of the lobby i joined , because, well i am level 0 xD
try find any match and you will get error about failed connect to steam servers

Checked clients:
dates dec. 2022, june 2023 and july 28 2023 (last supported vgui client) and cs2 work only in latest stable client with new ui((
bidulless 29 SEP 2023 a las 9:12 
Publicado originalmente por asha*:
Publicado originalmente por bidulless:
hello

no clue but matchmaking under cs2 seems working,using old steam release ( april ) i can join a lobby and also get kicked by the owner of the lobby i joined , because, well i am level 0 xD
try find any match and you will get error about failed connect to steam servers

Checked clients:
dates dec. 2022, june 2023 and july 28 2023 (last supported vgui client) and cs2 work only in latest stable client with new ui((
Hello
I did that under client from april, i went to a lobby but as i wrote the guys kicked me while waiting for one last member.. so i stopped my test there xD
awg 29 SEP 2023 a las 9:13 
Publicado originalmente por tyl0413:
That's the trend in software development now, how can everything waste as many resources for as little functionality as possible and having a ugly phone UI.
Uplay was great, Connect is much worse, current Beta is a disaster.
Origin was great, EA Desktop is barely functional.
GFWL worked 99% of the time, the Windows Store never does.
VGUI era Steam used to be the peak example of how functional software should be made and now it's yet another annoying, ugly, broken ripoff of the rest of this trash industry.
GOG Galaxy 2 is worse than 1.2 too especially since it was abandoned but guess what 1.2 still works and you don't even need to use it to begin with so once again, major L for DRM platforms today.
Completely agree with this. Couldn't say better. And this is exactly what we get now: less functionality for more resource consumption.
how the hell did you get back? i thought we unanimously voted you off the island!
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Publicado originalmente por Frost:
They blocked access to matchmaking servers on old client, can't play dota2 or csgo matchmaking. Had to concede and install newest steam and it works.
First people using the old version of steam lost Friends List .. now matchmaking.. it seems it really is exactly as I predicted: Slowly they are removing functions for the old steam client one at a time. I wonder what will be removed next. Hrmm.
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