So People are now forced to only use their countries Steamstore...

[DanTheKraut]

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6627-QSNM-5276

What's the deal with this? People may used other Steamstores to see reviews of games which are not available in their Steamstores but now they have to use the specific gamehub to see them and they also can't add those games to their wishlists anymore.

It is understandable (for Steam) that a account is locked to a specific country because Valve still believes in Regionlocks (Sony and Microsoft don't and some day maybe Valve will also notice that they are useless.) but being forced to see a store in which games are missing and not being able to look for them in another Steamstore regarding wishlist and reviews is annoying.

What's is coming next maybe blocking steamhubs too?

[TirithRR]

Автор сообщения: KillingArts

Автор сообщения: TirithRR

Yes, I just replied to both, (your second quote was just a continuation of the first, no being able to select a country without violating the SSA).

yeah well, i'm afraid, it doesn't work that way. even if i travelled to italy, i could not change my region, because i would need an italian payment method. my cc & paypal are both german.

Well, I guess there's one more negative. Users who used to be able to bypass publisher set regional content restrictions now can't.

[KillingArts]

Автор сообщения: Get_F4R0X *Steelseries

Read reviews, etc. You said you wanted to browse the store pages.

How is adding something to your wishlist helpful, if you can't buy it anyway? Once the game is added to your region so you can buy it, you'll be able to wishlist it.

who said you can't buy games, just because they are not available in your region? you can let someone buy it and let him gift it to you. also, you can buy boxed versions from other countries. again: in germany those are your only options to buy uncut games. it is absolutely necessary to buy games from other regions here. so adding those games to my wishlist is of course something i want to do.

[Charlie]

Автор сообщения: DanTheKraut

If someone wants to browse the UK store he should have the ability to so. Browse doesn't mean to shop so a lot of people wondering about this and as said there are major disadvantages regarding reviews and wishlist now.

You can do that, I sometimes browse on the US store (live in the UK) because for upcoming titles the information is more accurate, I'll give you an example. Until a month ago the page for Batman Arkham Knight hadn't been updated even after the delay, trailers, gameplay, new info and it still said the original release date. However the US version had perfectly clear information, latest trailers, gameplay etc... I also like to browse the US store to see how much extra I'm paying in tthe UK for the same game, that way I can see which publishers are screwing me and those that aren't.

[Start_Running]

Автор сообщения: DanTheKraut

Автор сообщения: TirithRR

Ok, so they got rid of the ?cc tag all together with the change. But you can still use Enhanced Steam or other region comparing areas to see what prices are in the other regions to compare to yours.

Look what I wrote it is about the disadvantages some countries have now for reviews and wishlist...

If a game is not available in your region it is by the developer's choice. Not so much Steams.. Maybe they don't have copyright or proper localizations , maybe they have other distribution deals currently. Bottom line is. That's a Developer function. Their customers, the developers/publishers, asked for that capability and steam gave it to them.

As for seeing reviews... uhm.. okay you cant see Steam reviews but you do remember the whole internet still exists right? Google it. You'll find reviews.

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: You Know Nothing Jon Snow

I also like to browse the US store to see how much extra I'm paying in tthe UK for the same game, that way I can see which publishers are screwing me and those that aren't.

If you're just wanting to do price comparisons just use Enhanced Steam and you don't have to 'country store hunt'. It shows all the regions you want with a simple mouse over. Alternatively it adds a link to the SteamDB page which shows you all regions at once. Or use isthereanydeal.com where you can get notifications for when games go on sale and get pricing history as well.

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: KillingArts

i have no idea what you are talking about. i think you quoted incorrectly. if you wanted to answer about my question how to buy from EU region without getting problems - traveling 1500km is not an option...

You're doing the OPPOSITE of what the page is saying. You are IN GERMANY but you claim you want to use a different store. So you need to verify if you are actually a citizen of a nother country

However if you were PHYSICALLY in say the UK right now. You would instead get the option of choosing Germany or the UK as your store. Clikc the UK, presto you're done. You have to add a new payment method from that country but that's it.

Note I tested this via a connection from Canada which shows the above behavior.

The behavior you are seeing is if you are in your home country and you try to change it to a country outside of whatever you're pretending to be in. You trying to bypass regional restrictions from within Germany is not the intention of the new feature

[KillingArts]

Автор сообщения: Satoru

Автор сообщения: KillingArts

i have no idea what you are talking about. i think you quoted incorrectly. if you wanted to answer about my question how to buy from EU region without getting problems - traveling 1500km is not an option...

You're doing the OPPOSITE of what the page is saying. You are IN GERMANY but you claim you want to use a different store. So you need to verify if you are actually a citizen of a nother country

However if you were PHYSICALLY in say the UK right now. You would instead get the option of choosing Germany or the UK as your store. Clikc the UK, presto you're done. You have to add a new payment method from that country but that's it.

Note I tested this via a connection from Canada which shows the above behavior.

The behavior you are seeing is if you are in your home country and you try to change it to a country outside of whatever you're pretending to be in. You trying to bypass regional restrictions from within Germany is not the intention of the new feature

you are COMPLETELY missing the point. you should read the whole conversation i had with this guy in here. i don't want to bypass regional restrictions by using another store. never said that. we talked about something else. and it seems you read only half of it...

[luckz]

Another question is how much private information (which Valve pretty much have no business knowing/saving/processing) they will want before they accept you as an eligible customer of the <country goes here> store.

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: luckz

Another question is how much private information (which Valve pretty much have no business knowing/saving/processing) they will want before they accept you as an eligible customer of the <country goes here> store.

If you're already in that country then youd on't have to do anything other than add a local payment method.

If you want to add a payment method from a country you're not currently in you have to contact support for that. Given that you can set your home country and add new countries as long as you're physically located there, there seems to be very few situations where you'd somehow be in coutnry A but need to authorize yourself in country B all of a sudden.

[KillingArts]

did anything change about the old problem with moving to another country? if a russian moves from russia to italy, is he still in the situation that half his library doesn't work because of region locks? so if the onlyallowrunincountries tag is set for RU+CIS, he can't use the game with a non RU+CIS ip address. and steam support will tell him that they can remove those games from his library and he can buy them again. i guess this is still the case?

[DanTheKraut]

Автор сообщения: KillingArts

did anything change about the old problem with moving to another country? if a russian moves from russia to italy, is he still in the situation that half his library doesn't work because of region locks? so if the onlyallowrunincountries tag is set for RU+CIS, he can't use the game with a non RU+CIS ip address. and steam support will tell him that they can remove those games from his library and he can buy them again. i guess this is still the case?

Yes, that Regionlock-Stuff is still the same.

[luckz]

Автор сообщения: KillingArts

did anything change about the old problem with moving to another country? if a russian moves from russia to italy, is he still in the situation that half his library doesn't work because of region locks? so if the onlyallowrunincountries tag is set for RU+CIS, he can't use the game with a non RU+CIS ip address. and steam support will tell him that they can remove those games from his library and he can buy them again. i guess this is still the case?

Yes, though I have heard that Russians can in some circumstances have their games unlocked (probably: have their play lock subs replaced by ROW subs?) after extensive contact with support, including the transmission of tons of personal information.

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: luckz

Yes, though I have heard that Russians can in some circumstances have their games unlocked (probably: have their play lock subs replaced by ROW subs?) after extensive contact with support, including the transmission of tons of personal information.

The only way that happens is by
1) Having support remove the existing region locked game
2) re-puchasing a ROW version of the game

I've never herad of Steam retroactively unlocking a region locked game.

[luckz]

As usual, anything Satoru hasn't done himself doesn't exist.

[KillingArts]

Автор сообщения: luckz

As usual, anything Satoru hasn't done himself doesn't exist.

well, what he says is exactly what i've read quite a few times. do you maybe have any source, that steam support actually unlocked games in such a case? it's just hard to believe, because i read the opposite so often. ;)