Long Niar™ 2024년 12월 28일 오전 2시 00분
Why should people be banned for claiming a game is crap?
All over Steam forums I see people being banned and their comments removed for simply having an opinion or asking the 'wrong' questions.

Devs have the power to ban somebody for being critical of their game, which can trigger a wider Steam-wide community ban lasting a week, month, etc.

In fact, all over the internet as a whole I see this, and it is becoming a problem.

What use is the block button if nobody gets a chance to use it?
Why is everyone classed as 'trolling' if they do not go along with the 'official narrative'?
Is it wrong to have a personal opinion?

Just because somebody has a different opinion to you does not mean they are trolling, and does not mean they should be banned.

Just because your game is crap for example and people are asking about the crappy aspects of said game, does not mean they deserve a ban - it means you are a fraudster.

The censorship of the normal able-brained Steam user, and internet user as a whole, is out of control, and is absurd.

I would like to see a day where smooth brained fools with an agenda are not behind censorship of true humanity.

Good day to you people.

:steamdeadpan:
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AustrAlien2010 2024년 12월 28일 오전 3시 38분 
If among fellows, it's okay.

Sometimes people don't like it when other people "swear." That depends on the other person.
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Shinoskay 2024년 12월 28일 오전 3시 39분 
they shouldnt, this is click bait
The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:
Because when you say "the game is crap", you better
1) say it more nicely
2) should explain in detail what they think could be improved and how it can be improved.
And did I mention the wording should be POLITE?
if its crap, its crap, ♥♥♥♥ saying it any other way.

"sir, this feels, smells, and looks like what I just dropped into my toilet"
it can get worse, be happy its not worse.
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Seraphita 2024년 12월 28일 오전 3시 48분 
The thing is, if a game is trash, why do you waste time to insult the game on its forum instead of, I dunno, playing games? Do you also do that in real stores?

Like, do you go to gamestop and take a random game and say to the shop keeper, "I am sorry but this game is TRASH." You buy games you will enjoy, instead.
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Crazy Tiger 2024년 12월 28일 오전 3시 50분 
Shinoskay님이 먼저 게시:
if its crap, its crap, ♥♥♥♥ saying it any other way.
Agreed. But, it's still fine if people don't want to provide a platform for that.
The nameless Gamer 2024년 12월 28일 오전 3시 57분 
Shinoskay님이 먼저 게시:
they shouldnt, this is click bait
The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:
Because when you say "the game is crap", you better
1) say it more nicely
2) should explain in detail what they think could be improved and how it can be improved.
And did I mention the wording should be POLITE?
if its crap, its crap, ♥♥♥♥ saying it any other way.

"sir, this feels, smells, and looks like what I just dropped into my toilet"
it can get worse, be happy its not worse.

You, or anybody else isn't qualified to call someone else's work "crap". Do some creative work yourself and see how hard it is. You'll find that it's a lot harder to create something than to have a diarrhea of the mouth like ungrateful sods like you are having. (I replaced the word "lazy" with "ungrateful")
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Crazy Tiger 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 00분 
The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:
Shinoskay님이 먼저 게시:
they shouldnt, this is click bait

if its crap, its crap, ♥♥♥♥ saying it any other way.

"sir, this feels, smells, and looks like what I just dropped into my toilet"
it can get worse, be happy its not worse.

You, or anybody else isn't qualified to call someone else's work "crap". Do some creative work yourself and see how hard it is. You'll find that it's a lot harder to create something than to have a diarrhea of the mouth like lazy sods like you are having.
Everybody is qualified for that, it's called "having an opinion". While elaboration might be favorable, it's not necessary.

If my subjective experience of an entertainment product is that I was having a crap time, it's a crap game/movie/series/book/song/etc.
The nameless Gamer 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 02분 
Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:
The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:

You, or anybody else isn't qualified to call someone else's work "crap". Do some creative work yourself and see how hard it is. You'll find that it's a lot harder to create something than to have a diarrhea of the mouth like lazy sods like you are having.
Everybody is qualified for that, it's called "having an opinion". While elaboration might be favorable, it's not necessary.

If my subjective experience of an entertainment product is that I was having a crap time, it's a crap game/movie/series/book/song/etc.

Well, opinions are like rectums. We all have one and they all stink. And yes, it includes myself.
Mad Scientist 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 02분 
The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:
Shinoskay님이 먼저 게시:
they shouldnt, this is click bait

if its crap, its crap, ♥♥♥♥ saying it any other way.

"sir, this feels, smells, and looks like what I just dropped into my toilet"
it can get worse, be happy its not worse.

You, or anybody else isn't qualified to call someone else's work "crap". Do some creative work yourself and see how hard it is. You'll find that it's a lot harder to create something than to have a diarrhea of the mouth like lazy sods like you are having.
There's usually a reason why some typically get acted upon repeatedly even by multiple hubs. Some just outright display why the welcome may be worn out very, very quickly to the point of removal, and may have a reputation of being too hostile to others thinking that it's ok to do, when the main hubs and game hubs tend to disagree.
ShelLuser 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 23분 
We all do realize that Steam doesn't drop a banhammer right away, but more than often warns you about things prior to that?

Last week a comment of mine got removed and I received an official warning about it. While I don't fully agree with it I can most definitely understand their point of view in this. And well, like I often said myself: their forum, their rules. Simple as that.

Which leads to my conclusion... if you found yourself banned, then I can't help be convinced that it must have been quite a serious problem. More than just calling out a game.
PocketYoda 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 36분 
Steam can ban you for no reason, I've had it multiple times in games forums, say literally anything and they ban you.
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Kiler_best1235_Denmark 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 45분 
Chika Ogiue님이 먼저 게시:
You can have any opinion you want, it doesn't mean you get to have a platform to voice it.

No. This is what it is about. "Make your own platform". Which people have done many times, and then FBI and other of the worst people on the planet, came and censored people on that platform. So no.
skOsH♥ 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 52분 
This reminds me of agencies going on WoW to find terrorists

And they ended up friending the people they thought were investigating but were just also their colleagues doing the same thing and acting weird and discussing a bizarre topic

Edit: although if that's the case then idk wtf is going on when it comes to random individuals from nowhere and I swear I wasn't even in the thread with them
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Crazy Tiger 2024년 12월 28일 오전 4시 58분 
skOsH님이 먼저 게시:
This reminds me of agencies going on WoW to find terrorists

And they ended up friending the people they thought were investigating but were just also their colleagues doing the same thing and acting weird and discussing a bizarre topic

Edit: although if that's the case then idk wtf is going on when it comes to random individuals from nowhere and I swear I wasn't even in the thread with them
"You're a terrorist!!"
"Dude, I sit at the desk right next to you, you've known me for years!!"
wesnef 2024년 12월 28일 오전 5시 00분 
As many have said, it's not 'having an opinion' that's banned, it's how you express that opinion.

"I think this game is bad because <reason 1>, <reason 2>, <reason 3>." is fine.

"This game is crap garbage scum, you greedy/sucky/fraudster/drugaddict/etc dev losers, and you should all DIAF" isn't.
The nameless Gamer 2024년 12월 28일 오전 5시 43분 
PocketYoda님이 먼저 게시:
Steam can ban you for no reason, I've had it multiple times in games forums, say literally anything and they ban you.

Wrong. They always start with a warning and give you a reason.
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