Why should people be banned for claiming a game is crap?

[Long Niar™]

All over Steam forums I see people being banned and their comments removed for simply having an opinion or asking the 'wrong' questions.

Devs have the power to ban somebody for being critical of their game, which can trigger a wider Steam-wide community ban lasting a week, month, etc.

In fact, all over the internet as a whole I see this, and it is becoming a problem.

What use is the block button if nobody gets a chance to use it?
Why is everyone classed as 'trolling' if they do not go along with the 'official narrative'?
Is it wrong to have a personal opinion?

Just because somebody has a different opinion to you does not mean they are trolling, and does not mean they should be banned.

Just because your game is crap for example and people are asking about the crappy aspects of said game, does not mean they deserve a ban - it means you are a fraudster.

The censorship of the normal able-brained Steam user, and internet user as a whole, is out of control, and is absurd.

I would like to see a day where smooth brained fools with an agenda are not behind censorship of true humanity.

Good day to you people.

[Dimebag]

xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:

Paying customers are still obliged to behave on a community hub. Feedback should be polite and constructive. Is being polite or constructive difficult?

In a word, yes. It is difficult, being nobody knows what someone construes as "impolite". I got banned last week, for "begging", on a platform i wouldn't give another dime, and have not for the past year.

We got thousands of developers, with seemingly thousands of different rules, seemingly from hundreds of countries.

As well as Valve being located in the US, with it's Moderation in Europe, with it's owner living on a Yacht in New Zealand.

What can ever go wrong?

Nobody knows who's in charge of what. What exactly are we buying and from whom.

And worse of all being "policed, disciplined, banned and moderated, by folks who WE PAY for their products, for which we do not even know what their ages are, who they are, or whether they should even be in these positions to "police" customers, let alone anyone.

And therefore, it hard to know what "polite" even is in this puzzle palace we call, "Steam.

They had the same argument for no refunds until it got challenged then it changed ..... the various forums designation of "Polite" is so undefined as to be useless.

Myself I think Valve should cover all Moderation on THEIR platform, this leaving it up to the whims of various Developers makes the entire process a Pigs Breakfast of a policy.

[Tito Shivan]

The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:

Uh, what is it exactly that you dislike? What are those terrible practices you're against? What is Steam not allowing you?

Short answer? Being banned from a forum for not understanding how support works and Steam dropping support for W7.

xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

As well as Valve being located in the US, with it's Moderation in Europe, with it's owner living on a Yacht in New Zealand.

It's charming see you still thinking moderation being anywhere else (it is located in the US by the way) would yield different results.

Dimebag님이 먼저 게시:

They had the same argument for no refunds until it got challenged then it changed .....

Ironically, that challenge didn't change the policy.

The new refund policies didn't come because of the australian lawsuit nor was Steam the first one to implement it.

xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

You know, it strikes me as quite interesting, how paying customers, or otherwise "consumers" are having to be "policed".

Said the retired POLICE officer.

[The nameless Gamer]

Tito Shivan님이 먼저 게시:

The nameless Gamer님이 먼저 게시:

Uh, what is it exactly that you dislike? What are those terrible practices you're against? What is Steam not allowing you?

Short answer? Being banned from a forum for not understanding how support works and Steam dropping support for W7.

All that talk about Windows 7? Sure, I miss it too, but I had to move on not for other reasons than Steam.

[bladeddragonknight]

Niar™님이 먼저 게시:

All over Steam forums I see people being banned and their comments removed for simply having an opinion or asking the 'wrong' questions.

Devs have the power to ban somebody for being critical of their game, which can trigger a wider Steam-wide community ban lasting a week, month, etc.

In fact, all over the internet as a whole I see this, and it is becoming a problem.

What use is the block button if nobody gets a chance to use it?
Why is everyone classed as 'trolling' if they do not go along with the 'official narrative'?
Is it wrong to have a personal opinion?

Just because somebody has a different opinion to you does not mean they are trolling, and does not mean they should be banned.

Just because your game is crap for example and people are asking about the crappy aspects of said game, does not mean they deserve a ban - it means you are a fraudster.

The censorship of the normal able-brained Steam user, and internet user as a whole, is out of control, and is absurd.

I would like to see a day where smooth brained fools with an agenda are not behind censorship of true humanity.

Good day to you people.

:steamdeadpan:

This guy got banned meanwhile ACTUAL trolls are left alone? Steam mods are a joke. Probably Pedos.

[King of Games]

Because it could cost inept developers money and they dont like that.

[crunchyfrog]

Jackie Daytona님이 먼저 게시:

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

You question does not seem to have had anything to do with the contest, ergo off-topic.
Dev/pubs enforce the rules as they see fit. And while you may not have seen what cause the bans, keep in mind, you wouldn't see deleted posts.


Can't imagine why a dev/pub would ban you for that...


Your record will follow you.
Just behave.


And why didn't you contact the dev/pubs about that?
They are in a position to see your post history.


Whart I am noticing is that you seem to be running afoul of different moderators in different game hubs... the only common denominator here is well you... maybe that's where the issue lies

Just a thought.

Been on steam for years and while I've received quite a few general hub bans.. 80% of which were fair cops...I mean some of those dad jokes were pretty horrible. But I can't say i've ever been banned on a game hub

The topic is: unfair moderation practices. I spoke to that. Giving my personal experiences with such a thing. On-topic.

Your post, on the other hand, is a chain of personal attacks against me. Veering heavily off the topic.

I shall now defend myself against your baseless attacks.

I was perma-banned for telling people a game had cheaters. Dissuading them from buying the game. I'm far from the only person that this happened to. The devs of that game abuse their power to remove criticism. Again, this is the topic.

I was banned from a game hub for asking, "Why are you banning so many people?" That's not a crime. I didn't hurt or offend anyone. I did nothing wrong. It was the action of a sketchy mod that skipped over warnings and went straight to a ban. This wasn't a game hub I had ever posted in. (Except to make an innocuous comment about my game experience. Which wasn't negative.) I said one thing one time.

As far as the evil person I mentioned? I did attempt to contact the mod. They ignored me. The well was poisoned.

The current global mods do a good job. Far better than the old mods. The latter of which is more akin to what the game hub mods do. You don't get banned because you broke rules. You get banned because you criticized them or their game.

Your entire argument is basically: If you got arrested? Then you are guilty.

That's not a world I want to live in.

Not a crime no. But that's utterly irrelevant.

That's against the rules and you were rightly banned and yet you kept at it.

End of. I'm sorry you can't grasp terms like this, but that's how it always works. If they tell you this is against the rules, you don't carry on repeating the same thing.

Sorry, this is how contracts with private businesses are - THEY are setting the rules, you do not get to misapply other rules from elsewhere like "it's not illegal".

[Nerd Gamer Buddy]

i got banned from veilguard saying that i wouldnt play a woke game. people that have played like 20 hrs felt the need to troll me. i dont understand it either. but its ok cuz i dont need those forums anyways

[crunchyfrog]

Nerd Gamer Buddy님이 먼저 게시:

i got banned from veilguard saying that i wouldnt play a woke game. people that have played like 20 hrs felt the need to troll me. i dont understand it either. but its ok cuz i dont need those forums anyways

As you should.

Clear breach of the rules for spoting stuff that provokes huge argument.

Bang on. You have nothing to complain about.

Oh and there's nothing in there that could be considered woke unless you've gone down a certain rabbit hole of illusion. Basic empathy and inclusion isn't woke - it's how the majority of the world normally operates.

[Amaterasu]

Says the person whose profile picture reveals that they are a Christian Nationalist in a nation in which somehow Christianity has more power than any other believe, is more represented in government than any other belief(With 3 non-christian officials in all of government across the entire nation), is by and large the largest religion in the entire country(Which by the first amendment is a secular nation)... and you can find a church for on damn near literally every corner(I know of five within a single mile of where I live. There's probably more)... yet are somehow the most persecuted people in all of the country because people don't want to be evangelized to constantly and just wanna live their lives how they want to.

I got 50 dollars that you didn't just say that the game sucks, but instead went on a politically charged tirade on how the game was woke and constantly attacked anyone who disagreed, while at the same time playing the role of the poor innocent victim because the only available tactic is DARVO.

[Crazy Tiger]

What's with this anti-christianity rhetoric? A new fad from the streamers?

[Amaterasu]

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

What's with this anti-christianity rhetoric? A new fad from the streamers?

Streamers are purely Christian Nationalists that support a Christian Theocracy in the US. I'm not just Anti-christian, I'm Anti-Abraham in general(In other words, I'm against all sects of Judaism, all sects of Christianity, and all sects of Islam) because if you look in history, the religions that have caused the most harm to humanity weren't the ones we used to call barbaric such as the Aztecs. And though I haven't dug up any evidence of any Islamic Genocides... yet, I'm not dismissing the possibility it has happened. However, the bible itself points out a fair number of Genocides being carried out by the Jews under command of God and because Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 that Jesus didn't come to abolish any of the old laws(Yes, I actually have read the bible, it's why I'm not Christian anymore), this means that Christianity also claims those different genocides in addition to the actual genocides that they have committed and attempted in history(Including the Holocaust, while Hitler was a Deist, he was never excommunicated from the Catholic Church, so technically he was still Catholic as well).

Quickest way to be against Christianity is to read the bible. The thing is, I didn't become an atheist. Because Christianity has been a consistently negative influence in my life since the day I was born and the people who did the most horrific things to me were Christian. I became Gnostic with Satanist leaning.

Tl;dr: I'm against All Abrahamic Religions because they've committed the worst atrocities over the longest period of time and I'm openly anti-christian because I live in a nation trying to become a christian theocracy and Christians have done the worst things imaginable to me.

[Bishop]

Censorship is the natural consequence when leftists hold the levers of power. Steam is no different. It's run by hardcore progressives, Gabe included who have no problem silencing people who offend them.

[xBCxRangers]

Bishop님이 먼저 게시:

Gabe included who have no problem silencing people who offend them.

I know that first hand. Can't criticize that guy, or we get a vacation.

[Tito Shivan]

xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

Bishop님이 먼저 게시:

Gabe included who have no problem silencing people who offend them.

I know that first hand. Can't criticize that guy, or we get a vacation.

Maybe it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

Bishop님이 먼저 게시:

Gabe included who have no problem silencing people who offend them.

I know that first hand. Can't criticize that guy, or we get a vacation.

You quite literally just did...do you not see the irony of that statement?