Do you prefer to play games on steam or console?

[Knight of the Redlotus]

I am trying to decide if i should play games on console or PC. What i hate the most is that some games on PC have to have a mod or something installed to make the game work because of bad optimization, such as crashing when pausing the game or other annoying things such as FPS drops or stuttering. A few games i wanted to buy on Steam were the Kingdom Hearts games, just to find out i need to install some stuff so the game will be at least tolerable.

[HisBangalore]

PC.

Way more versatile, multifunctional, and just takes gaming to the next level. Console is great for casual gamers, people who can't afford a PC, or kids.

[KarmaKrazi]

I don't think I've turned on my consoles once since I've owned a PC. Well worth the investment for gaming. Just an overall better experience in my opinion.

[crunchyfrog]

HisBangalore lähetti viestin:

PC.

Way more versatile, multifunctional, and just takes gaming to the next level. Console is great for casual gamers, people who can't afford a PC, or kids.

Demonstrable dismissive rubbish.

What about those of us who want to play as many games as possible and simply want to experience games that are exclusive?

[AROCK!!!]

Princess Luna lähetti viestin:

AROCK!!! lähetti viestin:

Then what is the point of going through all the trouble of building such a PC when a console will give you more for only a few dollars more?


I'm not trying to say one is better than the other..they both have pros and cons.

My main point is, a current generation console will give you close to what a top end gaming PC will, for a hell of a lot less, and a whole lot more than a budget PC for around the same price or less, and all the things that used to make people stick with PC, such as graphics, M/K, etc, are all null and void.

Console not upgradeable and not repairable

New Aaa came out? Buy PS.88 because ps 87 cant play that.
Imagine needing buy new car to drive road

3) xboxers cant play https://www.xbox.com/en-us/Search/Results?q=Eshrouded
Pc master race can

4. You have to pay subscription to play psn games you already bought?

Strange...I added an extra 1tb m.2 drive to my PlayStation, and bought a custom controller...sounds like "upgrades" to me.

There are places that can repair a console. In any case, I've never had one go bad, and I still have numerous consoles from the last 3 decades or so...FFS, I still have my Atari from 1978.

On that note, are laptops that much different?

No clue what your on about with the PS.88 and ps 87

No idea about Xbox, I'm a PlayStation user.

Only MP costs to play, and given that the console MP world is pretty much cheater free, it's worth it.

I left PC MP years ago due to cheaters, but thanks to my PlayStation I'm back in to it.

If I could pay for cheater free PC MP, I would, in a heart beat.

[AROCK!!!]

HisBangalore lähetti viestin:

PC.

Console is great for casual gamers, people who can't afford a PC, or kids.

and yet I have a 3000 € gaming PC, a 200 € Logitech mechanical keyboard, a 50(ish) € Logitech gaming mouse, and a 380(ish) € 32" gaming monitor, and a PS5.


Console has its advantages. Sometimes it's nice to be able to kick back in a comfy recliner and play a game, it's also nice to be able to play online without having to worry about cheaters infesting the game.

Console offers the choice to get games on a physical disc, meaning you will always have it...like the days of PC gaming before STEAM came along.

There is also a used game market, and the ability to "legally" lend and borrow games.

[Realigo Actual]

Steam is more superior to all other forms of everything.

But console is good too.

[crunchyfrog]

AROCK!!! lähetti viestin:

Princess Luna lähetti viestin:

Console not upgradeable and not repairable

New Aaa came out? Buy PS.88 because ps 87 cant play that.
Imagine needing buy new car to drive road

3) xboxers cant play https://www.xbox.com/en-us/Search/Results?q=Eshrouded
Pc master race can

4. You have to pay subscription to play psn games you already bought?

Strange...I added an extra 1tb m.2 drive to my PlayStation, and bought a custom controller...sounds like "upgrades" to me.

There are places that can repair a console. In any case, I've never had one go bad, and I still have numerous consoles from the last 3 decades or so...FFS, I still have my Atari from 1978.

On that note, are laptops that much different?

No clue what your on about with the PS.88 and ps 87

No idea about Xbox, I'm a PlayStation user.

Only MP costs to play, and given that the console MP world is pretty much cheater free, it's worth it.

I left PC MP years ago due to cheaters, but thanks to my PlayStation I'm back in to it.

If I could pay for cheater free PC MP, I would, in a heart beat.

In all honesty, though I repair and maintain all my consoles and computers, the most reliable for me have been Nintendo ones, mostly because they use older and therefore more reliable tech.

Out of the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, WiiU, Switch, Gameboys, DSes, I have had one WiiU suffer from the NAND memory issue (which was sorted under warranty), and that's it.

I have had countless PC and laptop failures to repair over the years though. Most of my PCs have been upgraded or replaced once something fails.

Granted a fair chunk of this is indeed because of the tech - by nature if you're pushing higher end, you're going to be inviting more problems a lot of the time. not just for "cutting edge" reasons but for more heat and other issues.

So they have no idea what they're talking about regarding consoles.

[FafnirChaos]

Consoles are worthless now, with the exception of switch. Steam is free online, games don't need to be ported over or lost in the past.

Plus we have the big E, incase you want to play games that are stuck on console, and will never get rereleases(like developers who defunct)

[»' Just GirlPower | Nana♥]

As much as i love playing on PC, it never gets old to lay in my bed all cozy up in my pyjamas
with some snacks and my fav stuffed animals and play video games!!

[crunchyfrog]

FafnirChaos lähetti viestin:

Consoles are worthless now, with the exception of switch. Steam is free online, games don't need to be ported over or lost in the past.

Plus we have the big E, incase you want to play games that are stuck on console, and will never get rereleases(like developers who defunct)

Consoles are every bit as important as they've ever been.

The only thing that has changed is that the two major companies have messed up badly - Sony and MS.

It's not the consoles, but them. The fact is nothing has changed - exclusives still exist and the ease of use of consoles being a unified platform still remains the same as ever.

And furthermore, every other triple A publisher is similarly messing up on PC so it cuts both ways.

[Knight of the Redlotus]

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

FafnirChaos lähetti viestin:

Consoles are worthless now, with the exception of switch. Steam is free online, games don't need to be ported over or lost in the past.

Plus we have the big E, incase you want to play games that are stuck on console, and will never get rereleases(like developers who defunct)

Consoles are every bit as important as they've ever been.

The only thing that has changed is that the two major companies have messed up badly - Sony and MS.

It's not the consoles, but them. The fact is nothing has changed - exclusives still exist and the ease of use of consoles being a unified platform still remains the same as ever.

And furthermore, every other triple A publisher is similarly messing up on PC so it cuts both ways.

What about Nintendo? Does it mean they haven't messed up?

[Zylva]

It depends. My computer isn't the best when it comes to the latest titles, but I do prefer PC for certain games like Skyrim, which has an amazing modding community, and I refuse to use the trash that is the Creative Club, on console. PC is also the best platform for certain RPGs and Strategy games.

I enjoy my PS5 a lot, and I gave up on multiplayer games, so I don't have to pay for the PS Plus subscription. On PS5, I pretty much play games that my computer can't handle, and lately I've been mostly using my computer for work and to play classic games like Diablo II, Baldur's Gate (the original), etc.

[KalGimpa]

love my pc

many other seem to love theirs as well

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/new-report-says-pc-games-are-outselling-console-games-calling-pc-gaming-a-bright-spot-in-a-troubled-industry/

[Jakob Fel]

I never used to be, but I'm PCMR all the way these days.

Console wars used to be about a combination of innovative hardware, cool external aesthetics & ergonomics, and a catalog of games sharing a signature "design language" of said console. Retro Bird has a video where he does a great job evaluating how the Nintendo-Sega console war was the greatest console war, and a part of that was because both companies were GAME companies that were genuinely trying to compete to give players the best experience.

Now, the console war is merely a war of fanboys, not of substance. Both companies offer roughly the same experience, with different ways of screwing over the players. Xbox is trying to unfairly compete through monpolization and their Game Pass slop. Sony used to be infamous (no pun intended) for being a total walled garden, relying on a handful of solid exclusives to sell. Meanwhile, Nintendo has continued to just do its own thing, which is why (in spite of their scumbag business practices) I actually respect them to a degree.

With the Steam Deck, its competitors and Valve's upcoming Fremont project, there really isn't an acceptable reason for anyone to stay stuck in the console war nonsense, at least between Xbox and Playstation. While consoles' simplicity might be appealing, there's no reason PC can't do that. On the flip side, someone who buys a console shouldn't be limited to using it in two or three "authorized ways". When you buy a piece of hardware, you ought to own it and be allowed to do whatever you want with it, without having to go to crazy lengths and questionable legal territory by jailbreaking your device. That's why Valve is absolutely shaking up the game with the Deck, and Fremont will likely shake up the entire way we think about consoles in general: because they want to bring PC gaming's mentality to everyone, not just the traditional PC gaming crowd. This will benefit everyone because PC gamers don't put up with crap the way console gamers do; the Helldivers scandal last year was prime proof of that, as it not only showed what PC gamers are capable of, but it also showed one of the major console manufacturers that PC gamers aren't to be trifled with.

At the end of the day, I believe people should play on whatever device, machine or system they enjoy most. However, I will proudly stand by PCMR because PC gaming is all about freedom. Freedom to play how you want, without console manufacturers telling you what to do. Freedom to play without having a stupid game subscription shoved in your face every five seconds. Freedom to choose what game store you shop from. Freedom to pick your hardware and freedom to choose your operating system. It accentuates freedom, creativity and just a deep-seated sense of FUN... and you know what? Things have always been that way, if you think about it. Even during the aforementioned Nintendo-Sega console war, PC gamers were just chugging along with their CRPGs, strategy games and simulations. They were just having fun with their machines that didn't limit them, while the Nintendo/Sega fans were arguing over which was better.

Verily, I say: long live personal computing!

[crunchyfrog]

Knight of the Redlotus lähetti viestin:

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

Consoles are every bit as important as they've ever been.

The only thing that has changed is that the two major companies have messed up badly - Sony and MS.

It's not the consoles, but them. The fact is nothing has changed - exclusives still exist and the ease of use of consoles being a unified platform still remains the same as ever.

And furthermore, every other triple A publisher is similarly messing up on PC so it cuts both ways.

What about Nintendo? Does it mean they haven't messed up?

No, they go their own way. They don't directly compete exactly with Sony and MS. They've always tried to stay away from the cutting edge route and that's why they put so much in their first party product - they make for their tech, not multiplatform.

They absolutely have messed up in the past a few times.