Steam stopped working in Windows 8.1

[Ahmad]

Now Steam is forcing me to replace my perfectly working Windows 8.1 with a totally unnecessary Windows 10 just to play a game that runs perfectly in Windows 98.

[NakiBest]

Publicado originalmente por Princess Luna:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

That's the situation we're in with older OSes - they're at the end of their life, they need repeated patching and holding up, which is more expensive and time consuming and risks breaking all the more.

There is NO reason for Steam to stop working on W7 and W8.
Please dont start that "why you want old OS when W10 has more feaures bugs"

I choose to stay on w7. Keep the old client as is and dont update it.How hard is that?

There is a very good reason.

Same reason that current Steam client cannot work on Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP. :)
(while it was in fact possible at various points in the past.. but not anymore)

[Bllasae]

Publicado originalmente por Ahmad:

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

Which game?

It's the Steam, not the games.

he's asking you what game worked fine on Windows 98.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Princess Luna:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

That's the situation we're in with older OSes - they're at the end of their life, they need repeated patching and holding up, which is more expensive and time consuming and risks breaking all the more.

There is NO reason for Steam to stop working on W7 and W8.
Please dont start that "why you want old OS when W10 has more feaures bugs"

I choose to stay on w7. Keep the old client as is and dont update it.How hard is that?

This is so easily and demonstrably incorrect.

The reasons I gave are utterly valid because we've seen it times before. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.

The fact remains that my analogy was clear - the longer time goes on, the more something needs maintenance to keep it secure or operating. This is demonstrably true for OSes.

So now you extend that to someone like Valve, who are somewhat secondary to this and have to work WITHIN that OS that requires this maintenance. It compounds THEIR maintenance too.

So you're so easily wrong, it's painful to see.

Consider this - if you're so confident there's no reason for them not to, how about you demonstrate your evidence why.

[pizDuke]

The more I read about it the more it resembles simple power trip. Solving the problem would've taken significantly less money than to 'incite' people to spread the narrative and perform damage control on forums 24/7, it's also not a good look and just makes people pissed. There's nothing easier than just to allow to download the latest available version for each platform with bare minimum functionality of 1) launching games and 2) hosting steam drm, which is one of the simplest drms on the market. I would even go as far as to make games with other types of drm unavailable. It's like they're sending the message that steam is for those who have no standards or expectations.

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Consider this - if you're so confident there's no reason for them not to, how about you demonstrate your evidence why.

steam emulator works on win 7 while steam doesn't. That's all everyone needs to know

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por pizDuke:

The more I read about it the more it resembles simple power trip. Solving the problem would've taken significantly less money than to 'incite' people to spread the narrative and perform damage control on forums 24/7, it's also not a good look and just makes people pissed. There's nothing easier than just to allow to download the latest available version for each platform with bare minimum functionality of 1) launching games and 2) hosting steam drm, which is one of the simplest drms on the market. I would even go as far as to make games with other types of drm unavailable. It's like they're sending the message that steam is for those who have no standards or expectations.

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Consider this - if you're so confident there's no reason for them not to, how about you demonstrate your evidence why.

steam emulator works on win 7 while steam doesn't. That's all everyone needs to know

No it isn't all people need to know because that's nothing to do with the point I made.

Non sequiturs mean nothing to the point about you can't keep patching up things that aren't supported anymore.

The fact something works and something else doens't shows NOTHING except reinforces my point. It shows that things WILL break.

[Lixire]

Publicado originalmente por Terrorize Exercise:

Why the hell is anybody using windows 8.1?

Windows 7? Sure

Windows xp? Hell yea Brother!!!!

But Windows 8.1? Just why...........?

Honestly, I had a much better time with 8.1 compared to 7 on every single system I owned before I moved to 10 and later on 11. but if 8.1 was still supported by most applications and games then I would have kept on using it.
The terrible UI could be fixed easily through ClassicShell (now called OpenShell) so you got yourself a proper start menu without this touch nonsense

[pizDuke]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

The fact something works and something else doens't shows NOTHING except reinforces my point. It shows that things WILL break.

So you're saying valve have Reverse midas touch here, got it, thanks

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por pizDuke:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

The fact something works and something else doens't shows NOTHING except reinforces my point. It shows that things WILL break.

So you're saying valve have Reverse midas touch here, got it, thanks

No, not at all.

Where did I say anything like that?

I clearly said in repsonse to someone saying that there's no excuse for NOT infintely supprting old OSes, that they were wrong and that you can't keep propping up and patching old OSes as it gets exponentially problematic.

How did you mangle that to "they've got the reverse Midas touch"?

[Master.Constructor]

Publicado originalmente por Lixire:

Publicado originalmente por Terrorize Exercise:

Why the hell is anybody using windows 8.1?
Windows 7? Sure
Windows xp? Hell yea Brother!!!!
But Windows 8.1? Just why...........?

Honestly, I had a much better time with 8.1 compared to 7 on every single system I owned before I moved to 10 and later on 11. but if 8.1 was still supported by most applications and games then I would have kept on using it.
The terrible UI could be fixed easily through ClassicShell (now called OpenShell) so you got yourself a proper start menu without this touch nonsense

My experience was pretty much the same. 8.1 has some nice & needed improvements but it's a shame about driver / community support ... and that UI BS should have been OPTIONAL.

[Heraclius Caesar]

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Publicado originalmente por Heraclius Caesar:

I said people doing normal things on their computers don't have to worry about Microsoft committing nefarious acts against them. Which is simply the truth.

You need to improve your reading comprehension skills instead of flying off the handle at the first sentence you misread. This is the second time you've done this when replying to me.

Lol, if you and whoever else want to act like you're important enough and worth enough to be a corporate target go for it. Be as crazy and paranoid and ridiculous as you like.

However, you should know, and no offense to you or anyone else here, but you guys are simply not important enough nor worth enough for a giant company like Microsoft to care in the least about your precious data or "secrets" or how they can potentially use it against you. That's not what the telemetry is for, despite the rants of the paranoid conspiracy theorists out there.

Btw, if you and whoever else are so concerned with your privacy and data, I really hope for your sakes that you don't have & regularly use a mobile phone, online banking, tablets, Amazon, a Gmail account, and all of the other devices & services that pilfer users data on a daily basis.

hello
not really sur about your assumption as it does not explain the draw back of the beta w11 month to month from mikeysoft beta os but who cares in fact as it just the worst os ever build by mikeysoft
the bad point of all this tourmoil is that linux does not benefit of it, just w10

Bonjour

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about, I don't believe I ever mentioned that or said that I was going to explain any of that? Perhaps you meant to reply this to someone else?

I don't like Windows 11 either

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Publicado originalmente por Master.Constructor:

If you update Windows 7 to 2024.12.12 you get free telemetry and spyware removal. It would be great if Win8.1 had the same level of support but I have not found it. So far Win7 is the easiest Windows to keep clean and updated.

To anyone that finds this thread: This is completely false information / AKA fake news. There are no new updates for Windows 7 that have been published recently. Microsoft will never publish any new updates for Windows 7 ever again at any point in the future.

[Ax4711]

This Steam policy of simply disabling customers' bought games on PCs deemed "too old" deserves a big fat lawsuit.

Of course you can get a Steam emulator yourself, but Steam are definitely obliged to keep their games playable even when the OS platform has stopped evolving.

When all the W10 become "too old" and un-upgradable because of W11 artificial hardware requirements, this is going to explode at the latest.

[Karumati]

Just install win 11

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ax4711:

This Steam policy of simply disabling customers' bought games on PCs deemed "too old" deserves a big fat lawsuit.

Of course you can get a Steam emulator yourself, but Steam are definitely obliged to keep their games playable even when the OS platform has stopped evolving.

When all the W10 become "too old" and un-upgradable because of W11 artificial hardware requirements, this is going to explode at the latest.

hello

not really agree as steam is just a third party resseler but not the maker of most games you can purchase here.

For the other part, people will discover that by themselv with time i guess.

[Ferox_Stormdragon]

Publicado originalmente por Ax4711:

This Steam policy of simply disabling customers' bought games on PCs deemed "too old" deserves a big fat lawsuit.

Of course you can get a Steam emulator yourself, but Steam are definitely obliged to keep their games playable even when the OS platform has stopped evolving.

When all the W10 become "too old" and un-upgradable because of W11 artificial hardware requirements, this is going to explode at the latest.

It's not just steam, all major platforms, game engines and other software that uses the Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) has dropped support for windows 7, steam just happens to be the last platform to drop support.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Framework