Is it just me or have games on PC turned into garbage?

[_Junkie_]

I went through the voting awards for 2024 and found the only game I played out of all those available to vote for, in all fields, the game that I was devastated by, Sons Of The Forest, it was dreadful, pointless, it was the squeal to The Forest, the only game that I put in the perfect games group in my library, I've played some good games over the years but usually they have aspects that frustrate and annoy me, games are not meant to piss you off, also games shouldn't relay on multiplayer competition to be fun to play, you can play monopoly with friends and have fun, you can play anything with friends and have fun, video games were for people to play by themselves and have fun, now it seems every game for the PC is multiplayer, "New on steam, with steam ♥♥♥♥ support, kill your friends with hacks and earn respect and status like the bully you were destined to become" or its porn games without any real challenging play ability in them or either some puzzle game, I like some of them but I need some action too, all I get are shooter games with slow motion so you can aim using the poorly designed controllers of a console, that you wouldn't use in a million years in an online death match game, why do people even bother playing games with cheats that take away any challenge at all? I guess they don't play those games for long, or maybe they're easy to please, they spend hours happily watching animal video on you tube, I'd like to vote for Sons of the Forest for The biggest disappointment of 2024 on those steam awards but they don't have that section,, there's a category, Favourite game you suck at award, but I don't see what that has to do with the games quality, how fun is it?
My true love has been the PC shooters ever since Quake, but every game that comes out is worse than the last, with poorly thought out story lines and crap game play with pretty graphics, even the block graphics in some of the retro games have the same crap game play issues, lean left and lean right, auto aim and aim buttons, sprint buttons, player weapon models that recoil in front of your target so you can't see where your shots are landing, really the shots are not actually travelling but nobody seems to tell the programmers that the game would be better if it wasn't so automated, with silly support for gamer that use controllers, it's what slaughters the game play aspect, the skill of aiming shouldn't be screwed up by non game players thinking of playing a game for a few minutes in the elevator on the way to the office on their steaming deck of ♥♥♥♥, people who have no ability to play games are the people that don't play games, well not much, but this is all there is these days, I read through hundreds of positive reviews written by people that haven't played the game longer then it took them to write the glowing review, average play time is under an hour, I looked at the achievements of a game recently, where it lists the percentage of players that have the achievement, the achievements that you couldn't avoid getting if you tried like completing the tutorial in the first stage of the game achievement, 41% of gamer had achieved this, what the hell is that about? Are people just buying games for the picture and the idea that a game is waiting there for them, should they ever want to play anything? Or do people collect games like football cards or action figures from Star Wars or whatever?
THEY WONT BE VALUABLE IN 20 YEARS TIME, THEY CAN'T BE SOLD OR EVEN LEFT TO SOMEONE WHEN YOU DIE, unless you are well aware that you are about to die, then you could give someone the steam password, then they could have your giant collection of games, that they don't play either, it's pointless, cant you see that?
Is this why games are crap? Is it because they don't use in-house game testers as much these days?
Is education having this effect on them, the developers, conditioning their minds, so it has no creativity, analytical ability, that they may of had if they didn't get turned into the memory cramming machines that they are now?
If this is the main reason, well they won't have any idea that they have lost the ability to think independently, this aspect in people, AI in a organic human brain, instead of the I alone, that hasn't received the conditioning that stunts the cognitive ability with education, learning from being told, instead of learning by reasoning and strengthening that aspect in the brain, those who are sure they are smart, can be sure that they are demonstrating a sign of stupidity, intelligence is something that is impossible to gauge for ones self, do you think Trump has any idea his a dribbling idiot, he might have a suspicion that he is not as clever as he once believed, after hearing people laughing about what he said with the electric battery being a hazard if your electric boat sinks and there happens to be a electric resistant shark that is incapable of swimming over to where you jumped into the water, mind you, the idea that you have any choice if your boat is going down but to jump in the water, it's very confusing to think up something so strange and he boasts that the boat salesmen said he had never been asked that before, NO ♥♥♥♥, if he was selling boats to a lot of vegetables who all like boating, he might have heard it before Trump ask him this brilliant question about the chances of electric shock from lithium batteries in a boat that is sinking and happens to be right near a shark, that can't swim over to where your fat ass has plopped into the water. LOL

[Chika Ogiue]

Yes, it's just you. No one else in the entire world feels the same way.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ouch, that's quite the wall of text damage.

My libraries and wishlists across the various platforms and devices I use say the contrary. Man, such a good time to love gaming.

[Zio]

Dude, I think one of the most insulting things I could ask you is whether AI had written your post. I don't think AI did, but I know it would russle your jimmies but that's not what I'm here for.

I seriously TRIED to read your post MANY TIMES but the bottom line of it is, while there are some things in there that could resemble an argument, you seem to be doing nothing but blurt out a toxic rant about how much you hate everything. You're in desperate need of different perspectives. Yes there is a lot of ♥♥♥♥ but if you can't see the good stuff that those axe holes are trying to drown out with their noise, that's on you. Well partially, Steam/Valve are doing itheir best to just overuse their dung shovel because the ♥♥♥♥ sells and when ♥♥♥♥ sells they get their unfair share of the ♥♥♥♥ cake. That said, you have to actively look for things yourself, outside AAA spheres.

And as someone whose MO it is to write large swathes of text, I can safely tell you that proper formatting is not your enemy. Hell even half-assed formatting would work ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wonders here.

[Seraphita]

Quick summary of what we see here: 1020 words. human-written: 100%.

[The nameless Gamer]

Just you. Plenty of good games to be found on Steam and elsewhere. You just need to know what you are looking for in a game.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

It's just you.

[BJWyler]

It's just you, oh Master of the Great Wall of Text.

I, for one, am glad that there is such a plethora of choice on Steam, although my wallet may disagree. If one sees nothing but trash, then one needs to look in the mirror, because not only am I finding treasures on Steam on a daily basis, but I'm practically tripping over them in my perusals.

I've been gaming since before PCs were a thing. To me gaming today is levels above what it was 20 or 30 years ago. And that is in thanks directly to development studios, indies, and platforms like Steam.

Pound for pound, it is cheaper to be a gamer now than it was 40 years ago. I can buy games for $20 that will give me dozens upon dozens of hours (if not hundreds) of entertainment. Back in the day, I would be lucky if I could get more than 30 hours of playtime out of a $40 or $50 game.

At least half the games on my wishlist are ones that I am looking forward to coming out in the next year or two. There is a plethora of choice right at my fingertips. The Indie scene is thriving with thousands of quality games and more coming out every week.

We have continued to push the boundaries of technology to bring about the most amazing games. I can drive a load of TVs to California in the morning and slay a band of orcs with people from all over the world after dinner. I can top the leader board and pull out a win in a battle on the sea with a bunch of random noobs, or fight a robotic dinosaur in a post apocalyptic world on my own.

No, my sweet summer child. Gaming is far from dead, and platforms like Steam are far from trash. In fact gaming has never been more alive and a treasure to enjoy.

[bumbaclad]

naw, games pretty much suck now. actually miserable trying to play any of the 'mainstream' hits and rather just be at work

[wesnef]

It's you.

Are there *more* "bad" PC games nowadays? Sure, digital distribution has made it easier for any old random idiot to "publish" a "game" online. (just like it's easier to put out any random garbage book on PDF without having to go through a real publisher/agent/printer).

But that doesn't mean they're all bad, or that they're generally bad, or that there isn't lots of great stuff out there.



(and yeah - been playing computer games since the Apple II+ in 1980. Still enjoying it, still looking forward to new releases.)

[Ogami]

tl;dr "I hate everything"

Yup, its just you.

[Seraphita]

This reminds me whenever I feel too depressive or tired to play anything. Nothing feels good enough or tempting. I could claim that gaming has become dull but the truth would be that the issue is me, or rather the state I found myself in...

As some people say, we have an infinite amount of games (Including old school). Life does not revolve around "new games". There is never going to be only bad games. Find what you're in the mood for. If you can't, it might be your state.

[The nameless Gamer]

Escrito originalmente por Xenophobe:

once the corporations saw gaming was not just a niche hobby but fertile fields of harvestable cash, they descended like a flock of ravens and crapped all over everything ...

And yet there is a huge selection of games completely unaffected by corporate meddling.

[Chika Ogiue]

Escrito originalmente por bumbaclad:

mainstream'

There's your problem. Look outside the sheeple box for once.

[AustrAlien2010]

You were destined to like Quake, because Steam is a result of Quake. And without Quake, Steam would not exist.
Or maybe your being on Steam is providence?

Because Steam was made to deliver updates for Counter-Strike. And Counter-Strike is a Half-Life modification. And Half-Life was made by using Quake technology.

[peremptor]

Escrito originalmente por _Junkie_:

I went through the voting awards for 2024 and found the only game I played out of all those available to vote for, in all fields, the game that I was devastated by, Sons Of The Forest, it was dreadful, pointless, it was the squeal to The Forest, the only game that I put in the perfect games group in my library, I've played some good games over the years but usually they have aspects that frustrate and annoy me, games are not meant to piss you off, also games shouldn't relay on multiplayer competition to be fun to play, you can play monopoly with friends and have fun, you can play anything with friends and have fun, video games were for people to play by themselves and have fun, now it seems every game for the PC is multiplayer, "New on steam, with steam ♥♥♥♥ support, kill your friends with hacks and earn respect and status like the bully you were destined to become" or its porn games without any real challenging play ability in them or either some puzzle game, I like some of them but I need some action too, all I get are shooter games with slow motion so you can aim using the poorly designed controllers of a console, that you wouldn't use in a million years in an online death match game, why do people even bother playing games with cheats that take away any challenge at all? I guess they don't play those games for long, or maybe they're easy to please, they spend hours happily watching animal video on you tube, I'd like to vote for Sons of the Forest for The biggest disappointment of 2024 on those steam awards but they don't have that section,, there's a category, Favourite game you suck at award, but I don't see what that has to do with the games quality, how fun is it?
My true love has been the PC shooters ever since Quake, but every game that comes out is worse than the last, with poorly thought out story lines and crap game play with pretty graphics, even the block graphics in some of the retro games have the same crap game play issues, lean left and lean right, auto aim and aim buttons, sprint buttons, player weapon models that recoil in front of your target so you can't see where your shots are landing, really the shots are not actually travelling but nobody seems to tell the programmers that the game would be better if it wasn't so automated, with silly support for gamer that use controllers, it's what slaughters the game play aspect, the skill of aiming shouldn't be screwed up by non game players thinking of playing a game for a few minutes in the elevator on the way to the office on their steaming deck of ♥♥♥♥, people who have no ability to play games are the people that don't play games, well not much, but this is all there is these days, I read through hundreds of positive reviews written by people that haven't played the game longer then it took them to write the glowing review, average play time is under an hour, I looked at the achievements of a game recently, where it lists the percentage of players that have the achievement, the achievements that you couldn't avoid getting if you tried like completing the tutorial in the first stage of the game achievement, 41% of gamer had achieved this, what the hell is that about? Are people just buying games for the picture and the idea that a game is waiting there for them, should they ever want to play anything? Or do people collect games like football cards or action figures from Star Wars or whatever?
THEY WONT BE VALUABLE IN 20 YEARS TIME, THEY CAN'T BE SOLD OR EVEN LEFT TO SOMEONE WHEN YOU DIE, unless you are well aware that you are about to die, then you could give someone the steam password, then they could have your giant collection of games, that they don't play either, it's pointless, cant you see that?
Is this why games are crap? Is it because they don't use in-house game testers as much these days?
Is education having this effect on them, the developers, conditioning their minds, so it has no creativity, analytical ability, that they may of had if they didn't get turned into the memory cramming machines that they are now?
If this is the main reason, well they won't have any idea that they have lost the ability to think independently, this aspect in people, AI in a organic human brain, instead of the I alone, that hasn't received the conditioning that stunts the cognitive ability with education, learning from being told, instead of learning by reasoning and strengthening that aspect in the brain, those who are sure they are smart, can be sure that they are demonstrating a sign of stupidity, intelligence is something that is impossible to gauge for ones self, do you think Trump has any idea his a dribbling idiot, he might have a suspicion that he is not as clever as he once believed, after hearing people laughing about what he said with the electric battery being a hazard if your electric boat sinks and there happens to be a electric resistant shark that is incapable of swimming over to where you jumped into the water, mind you, the idea that you have any choice if your boat is going down but to jump in the water, it's very confusing to think up something so strange and he boasts that the boat salesmen said he had never been asked that before, NO ♥♥♥♥, if he was selling boats to a lot of vegetables who all like boating, he might have heard it before Trump ask him this brilliant question about the chances of electric shock from lithium batteries in a boat that is sinking and happens to be right near a shark, that can't swim over to where your fat ass has plopped into the water. LOL

Most AAA games are just mainstream slop meant to be played by 'mainstream' gamers. Lots of great games to play if you look for them though.

It's fine.