Do I own my games or not?

[Rain for x-gods]

I was around back when STEAM started. It took time to trust them that they will be around long enough from buying the games that were on disk to buying them on Steam and still owning them.

Now I am being told I don't own my games that games are only a service.

What the Hell!

We need to know if Steam is sticking to the original plan that we own our games.

[Crazy Tiger]

Nobody has to adhere to your made up "original plan".

You own licenses, not games. As you have always done.

[BloodShed]

This again!?

Read the EULA. Any game you ever bought physical or digital you never owned.
Only a license to play them.

Been like that for 40+ years.

[Ferox_Stormdragon]

Regardless of platform or format you have never owned your games, all games are licensed not sold.

[mrunuick]

You never did, on any platform. All you ever owned in regards to games is the license to play it and the storage medium and that part hasn't changed. It's the same for music and movies too. CDs. DVDs, hard drives, you name it. If it's someone else's intellectual property, all you ever had was a license.

[Knee]

Is this a copy paste?

[Rain for x-gods]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Is this a copy paste?

Yes. I want to OWN games not a dumb license.

[Ferox_Stormdragon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Is this a copy paste?

seems like it, a quick search on here or google would have gotten them a definite answer.

[Knee]

Ah, I found it.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4364625713979969824/

So this is just an award/attention seeking thread.

[nullable]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rain for x-gods:

I was around back when STEAM started. It took time to trust them that they will be around long enough from buying the games that were on disk to buying them on Steam and still owning them.

Now I am being told I don't own my games that games are only a service.

What the Hell!

We need to know if Steam is sticking to the original plan that we own our games.

You owned a bit of plastic that had data on it. You didn't own the data. The bit of plastic was just the delivery medium. The delivery medium has changed, not the terms or ownership. Although the main difference that people don't seem to like is was much harder for publishers/developers to enforce the license terms with physical media. It's much easier for them to enforce the license terms with digital distribution.

The fact that some users take issue with that really speaks to the competing values of customers and product owners, and the long running theme is users can't be trusted to abide by the terms they agree to.

Ultimately discovering your assumptions have always been wrong isn't a Valve problem or industry problem, it's a you problem.

[Ferox_Stormdragon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rain for x-gods:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Is this a copy paste?

Yes. I want to OWN games not a dumb license.

you never have and never will own your games.

[Crazy Tiger]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rain for x-gods:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Is this a copy paste?

Yes. I want to OWN games not a dumb license.

That ship sailed a very long time ago. Way before Steam, though people will deny that out of false nostalgia.

[King of Games]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BloodShed:

This again!?

Read the EULA. Any game you ever bought physical or digital you never owned.
Only a license to play them.

Been like that for 40+ years.

yeah bit of a difference there. Physical games are much easier to resell, while digital games can be resold it is alot harder and generally frowned upon by Valve

[Yzal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rain for x-gods:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Is this a copy paste?

Yes. I want to OWN games not a dumb license.

Then go and MAKE a game, 'cause that's the only way you'll ever own one.

[Black Blade]

If you want to own a game, make it your own, if you want to own outher game you can collect a lot of money and try to buy it
In the end own or not is a legal matter, pepole can pick to over think it, and decide that not owning matters all that much, in the end you got the game, you can play the game, most cases you can mod the game and play it like you want to

For all intance of what you likely to do with it, you own it, for what is beyond that like reselling it, you don't
So in the end.. where dose it really matter?
We don't own our houses in many country, the state dose, dose it really effect... rarely beside the payment on it

And this of stuff go both ways, game owners will not really blame you or go after you if you make a box of a game and put it your shelf, its there rights, as they own the copy right of the art, and we got a whole bunch of stuff like that
In the end of it all its legal stuff, some of it done (like the owning part) to avoid outher legal stuff, like if you own the game you could have done what ever, could be some places will requier the owner of the game to give you the ability to sell it, some countrys may make it so you must be able to get source code and so on
So no we have licenses a matter that says "You own this approval that you can play the game and do what limited stuff I allow you" that is basiclly most cases most of what most players will do with it anyway way, but it keeps the rights by the owners

Its legal mombo jambo really, not much more
So you can decide what you need this "owning the game" or not in your own head

[FafnirChaos]

Open up your web browser, go to google.com, search for a game engine, install it on your computer, create assets and learn to program, and create music, etc.

Congrats you now own a game.