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Davide 6 ian. la 2:58
Would Steam accept a VN game with AI NSFW images of women since they are not real?
I'm working on a Visual Novel with "realistic" NSFW images generated with AI. The pictures are generated locally using flux dev and are quite realistic, to the point that some people might consider them to be actual raw photos.

Would Steam accept those kind of images in a VN game on their platform since no real woman is actually depicted?
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Lithurge 6 ian. la 3:14 
Only Valve could answer your question, the wording is vague enough to not make it clear if the objection is because they are real or whether looking real is enough.

You want to sign up to the developer section of Steam and ask there.
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dorkenstein 6 ian. la 3:21 
Steam should ban all porn
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Ogami 6 ian. la 3:21 
Doubt it. Adult games with real people are not allowed on Steam, even if its AI generated it still looks like "real" people.
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Anonymous Helper 6 ian. la 3:29 
Postat inițial de Ogami:
Doubt it. Adult games with real looking persons is not allowed, even if its artificial it still looks "real".

There's plenty of porn games on Steam that use realistic 3D models, some so high quality you'd have hard time distinguishing them from photos of real people.

BTW, lot of adverts you see today are 100% AI generated, and feature no real people even if they look they do.
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Chika Ogiue 6 ian. la 3:52 
Postat inițial de PyrrGunk:
Steam should ban all porn

Steam should ban all photo-realistic gore fest shooters. They won't for the same reason they won't ban porn: they sell. If you don't want to see porn games, you shouldn't have opted in to see them.
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Davide 6 ian. la 4:13 
Thank you all for replying. As suggested, I'll contact Valve directly to get a clear answer.
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Seraphita 6 ian. la 9:22 
God the amount of lies in a post... "Steam is a porn seller.". Tell me what % of games in steam is porn, I'll wait. Pretty sure it's less than 10% and I'm being generous. To be a "X seller", the value of X must be superior to other ones. Fact: Steam sells games.
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Seraphita 6 ian. la 9:54 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
1 or 1 bilion, is the same in context. If you sell porn and smut, that's what it is, doesn't matter what format it is.

Fact : Steam sells porn.
Fact : Steam is the only store I can think of that sells porn and products for children in the same space.

Don't you think that's weird ?
Blockbuster... Ever heard of this movie/game renting store from like 20+ years ago that rented movies and games for everyone and included an adult section too...?

Steam is a game store, not a porn store. The context matter because steam isn't selling movies but games. Steam is a GAME store. Other online stores do it as well...
Editat ultima dată de Seraphita; 6 ian. la 10:02
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Zarineth 6 ian. la 10:01 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Postat inițial de Seraphita:
God the amount of lies in a post... "Steam is a porn seller.". Tell me what % of games in steam is porn, I'll wait. Pretty sure it's less than 10% and I'm being generous. To be a "X seller", the value of X must be superior to other ones. Fact: Steam sells games.

1 or 1 bilion, is the same in context. If you sell porn and smut, that's what it is, doesn't matter what format it is.

Fact : Steam sells porn.
Fact : Steam is the only store I can think of that sells porn and products for children in the same space.

Don't you think that's weird ?
You never heard of GoG? They are also selling NSFW games.
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Aluvard 6 ian. la 10:01 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Postat inițial de Seraphita:
God the amount of lies in a post... "Steam is a porn seller.". Tell me what % of games in steam is porn, I'll wait. Pretty sure it's less than 10% and I'm being generous. To be a "X seller", the value of X must be superior to other ones. Fact: Steam sells games.

1 or 1 bilion, is the same in context. If you sell porn and smut, that's what it is, doesn't matter what format it is.

Fact : Steam sells porn.
Fact : Steam is the only store I can think of that sells porn and products for children in the same space.

Don't you think that's weird ?
Newsstands, especially bigger ones. As long as it was on separate shelf, no one really cared that it is visible.
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Wolfpig 6 ian. la 10:01 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Fact : Steam is the only store I can think of that sells porn and products for children in the same space.

You could go to amazon and type porn in their search...it only shows something about 80.000 results....around 1000 for prime video.
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Start_Running 6 ian. la 10:12 
Postat inițial de Davide:
I'm working on a Visual Novel with "realistic" NSFW images generated with AI. The pictures are generated locally using flux dev and are quite realistic, to the point that some people might consider them to be actual raw photos.

Would Steam accept those kind of images in a VN game on their platform since no real woman is actually depicted?
That depends.
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Seraphita 6 ian. la 10:17 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Yeah your right, in bricks an mortar, they also had :

Someone checking Identification.
Adult content out of reach of minors.
Additional Security systems.

AND HERE'S THE KICKER.

Steam is a seller of pornographic material, this means it doesn't matter what other things it sells, because the important information to most people/families, is, "is somewhere safe for my family".
Steam is safe. Ever heard of parental setting? Or, I dunno, being a parent? Don't be a bad one. Set limits, don't give brainrot to your kid. Educate them better...

Security settings are set by parents. If you want to blame anyone, don't blame steam who did make these settings. Blame the parents who don't use them. Easy.

You're trying hard to paint Steam as what it's not. Go figure why. The fact is: Steam is a game store. It sells games. For everyone. Just don't be a bad parent.
Editat ultima dată de Seraphita; 6 ian. la 10:24
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Seraphita 6 ian. la 10:20 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Comparing a single store to many stores is a totally different context, and saying "Well these guys do it as well", is a naive point of view.

But maybe that's my fault, I presumed others would read the context as "GAME STORE" not any store in the world.
Good thing that steam sells games, then. You can't move the goal post. Steam is doing what it does... You're the one at fault for not understanding how it works.
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Zarineth 6 ian. la 10:24 
Postat inițial de Pierre_The_Scumbag:
Postat inițial de Wolfpig:

You could go to amazon and type porn in their search...it only shows something about 80.000 results....around 1000 for prime video.

Comparing a single store to many stores is a totally different context, and saying "Well these guys do it as well", is a naive point of view.

But maybe that's my fault, I presumed others would read the context as "GAME STORE" not any store in the world.
Weird how you skipped my post then.

If you don't like NSFW stuff, reenable filters and you are good to go.
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