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Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?
So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.
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Well that's too bad. There are still so much games that are playable using Windows 7 and i'm not feeling like downgrading into that **** OS that is Windows 10.

That decision is a big mistake in my opinion. You could've gave it a year or two before announcing the end of support. Thousands of players will find their game library not available because of this and will be stuck at launch.

https://i.imgur.com/b8eaBJb.jpeg

Sir Gaben i'm begging you to reconsider your decision or at least extend the timing. A simple tweak in the chromium browser could allow the launcher to keep starting in legacy mode despite the end of support coming in 2024.

I hope that a solution will be found that will please everyone.
Looking forward to the next months!
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย - PatteDeFruit -; 9 พ.ค. 2023 @ 2: 04pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SlowMango:


Windows firewall doesn't block telemetry connections.

Again, the DNSCrypt you posted has nothing to do with blocking DNS connections. It doesn't assist at all in stopping telemetry communications.
Hello
Sorry i think you have everything on your hand , just try to undertand how thing are working and you should be ok . Good luck.


What?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PatteDeFruit:
Well that's too bad. There are still so much games that are playable using Windows 7 and i'm not feeling like downgrading into that **** OS that is Windows 10.

That decision is a big mistake in my opinion. You could've gave it a year or two before announcing the end of support. Thousands of players will find their game library not available because of this and will be stuck at launch.

https://i.imgur.com/b8eaBJb.jpeg

Sir Gaben i'm begging you to reconsider your decision or at least extend the timing. A simple tweak in the chromium browser could allow the launcher to keep starting in legacy mode despite the end of support coming in 2024.

I hope that a solution will be found that will please everyone.
Looking forward to the next months!


They gave almost a year warning. There is plenty of time to upgrade your OS(which is free) to continue using the client.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย redtowerlasttime:
wtf this is robery. i paid for these games ON windows 7. i do not wish to update. thats like a guy selling you food, and then kicking down your door and saying your fridge isnt good enuf and taking away the food you just paid for. i WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!!! you cant sell me something and then steal it back and say that there is no law broken

You are not losing the licenses for the games you bought. They will be attached to your account regardless of your access to them. You agreed to these terms when creating a Steam account and for every game you bought in Steam.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PatteDeFruit:
I hope that a solution will be found that will please everyone.

There is a solution. Install Windows 11.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย redtowerlasttime:
wtf this is robery. i paid for these games ON windows 7. i do not wish to update. thats like a guy selling you food, and then kicking down your door and saying your fridge isnt good enuf and taking away the food you just paid for. i WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!!! you cant sell me something and then steal it back and say that there is no law broken

Your game licenses are not being revoked and your games will continue to work. The time you spend arguing and resisting can be spent on installing Windows 11 instead.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PatteDeFruit:
Sir Gaben i'm begging you to reconsider your decision or at least extend the timing.
And then what? You're just kicking the can down the road.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheBasedSociety:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PatteDeFruit:
I hope that a solution will be found that will please everyone.

There is a solution. Install Windows 11.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย redtowerlasttime:
wtf this is robery. i paid for these games ON windows 7. i do not wish to update. thats like a guy selling you food, and then kicking down your door and saying your fridge isnt good enuf and taking away the food you just paid for. i WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!!! you cant sell me something and then steal it back and say that there is no law broken

Your game licenses are not being revoked and your games will continue to work. The time you spend arguing and resisting can be spent on installing Windows 11 instead.
Hello
And for what ? Same mess at the end of w11 ? Be just a litle more serious ...
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
Hello
And for what ? Same mess at the end of w11 ? Be just a litle more serious ...

Why have dinner if you're going to have to have lunch the next day... why breathe if you need to breathe again within a few seconds... why live life if we're all going to die?

What sort of logic is that?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
Hello
And for what ? Same mess at the end of w11 ? Be just a litle more serious ...

Why have dinner if you're going to have to have lunch the next day... why breathe if you need to breathe again within a few seconds... why live life if we're all going to die?

What sort of logic is that?
Hello

What an interresting answer .... and so smart ... if i had a 6 year kid , it's surely something he could have said.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheBasedSociety:

There is a solution. Install Windows 11.



Your game licenses are not being revoked and your games will continue to work. The time you spend arguing and resisting can be spent on installing Windows 11 instead.
Hello
And for what ? Same mess at the end of w11 ? Be just a litle more serious ...
That will be over a decade away.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:

Why have dinner if you're going to have to have lunch the next day... why breathe if you need to breathe again within a few seconds... why live life if we're all going to die?

What sort of logic is that?
Hello

What an interresting answer .... and so smart ... if i had a 6 year kid , it's surely something he could have said.

That's literally on you, though

If you do not ever want to upgrade your operating system or upkeep your PC, buy a console
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Komarimaru:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TurtleShroom:

How do I do that, and what do I need to add?
Some you cannot block or remove, like...

Telemetry-4xd,
refreshgwxconfig-B,
WSRefreshBannedAppsListTask,
Time-5d,
refreshgwxconfigandcontent,
Logon-5d,
MachineUnlock-5d,
OutOfIdle-5d,
OutOfSleep-5d,
Secure-Boot-Update, and
Tpm-Maintenance.

Through all versions of Windows.
As for blocking through DNS host file, it's as simple as settings up the addresses as a loopback to the host IP.

So, to block all of these...
134.170.30.202
137.116.81.24
204.79.197.200
23.218.212.69
65.39.117.230
65.55.108.23
a-0001.a-msedge.net
choice.microsoft.com
choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
compatexchange.cloudapp.net
corp.sts.microsoft.com
corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
df.telemetry.microsoft.com
diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
feedback.search.microsoft.com
feedback.windows.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
pre.footprintpredict.com
redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
survey.watson.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
telemetry.appex.bing.net
telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
telemetry.microsoft.com
telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
vortex.data.microsoft.com
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
watson.live.com
watson.microsoft.com
watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com

You would have to add a new entry at the bottom of the host file past the #.

And for example, if you wanted to block the last one, would look like this.
127.0.0.1 wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com

What this does, is tries to connect to the loopback instead of the real server.

Now, fully disabling these in host file, can cause issues as well. Since a few are part of a CDN, content delivery network. So, do you risk online functionality by blocking them? Or just accept the fact that telemetry isn't spyware in 99% of cases, and simply there for reporting crashes, or for checking for updates, or for logging in etc etc?


Awesome! Where is the host itself? What is the file or files that I need to edit? Do I have to configure my router at all?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย bidulless:
Hello

What an interresting answer .... and so smart ... if i had a 6 year kid , it's surely something he could have said.

That's literally on you, though

If you do not ever want to upgrade your operating system or upkeep your PC, buy a console

That's really the way to do it. I made that decision a long time ago. Ge Force Now thru my Xbox, and the latter few Steam games i have, i'm thankful for the opportunity, but given what's going on, literally cannot purchase anymore Steam games.

Not just because of Steam, but GFN can take the games i bought out of their library, leaving me with nothing.

I'm only concerned about my old games i still play on this old duster, and find it even obscene i would have to upgrade my computer, to play 2004 era games.

But this nightmare, a lesson. Console is def the way to go, and given many of these games i've always wanted to play are coming to console anyway, only makes the decision all the more the wiser.

But Valve should really change how they word these matters. You do not and will never "own" the games as you do on console, but simply leasing them contingent on the leasing agreement.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย xBCxRangers:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:

That's literally on you, though

If you do not ever want to upgrade your operating system or upkeep your PC, buy a console

That's really the way to do it. I made that decision a long time ago. Ge Force Now thru my Xbox, and the latter few Steam games i have, i'm thankful for the opportunity, but given what's going on, literally cannot purchase anymore Steam games.

Not just because of Steam, but GFN can take the games i bought out of their library, leaving me with nothing.

I'm only concerned about my old games i still play on this old duster, and find it even obscene i would have to upgrade my computer, to play 2004 era games.

But this nightmare, a lesson. Console is def the way to go, and given many of these games i've always wanted to play are coming to console anyway, only makes the decision all the more the wiser.

But Valve should really change how they word these matters. You do not and will never "own" the games as you do on console, but simply leasing them contingent on the leasing agreement.

Even consoles have a predetermined lifespan. I own one of the backwards compatible launch day PS3s and it's just stopped here because I can't use it - Sony no longer manufactures DualShock 3 controllers, the knockoffs are just garbage and I'm having a very hard time sourcing one that is either new (and original), or in good condition - even with a lot of money to pay for it.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย xBCxRangers:

That's really the way to do it. I made that decision a long time ago. Ge Force Now thru my Xbox, and the latter few Steam games i have, i'm thankful for the opportunity, but given what's going on, literally cannot purchase anymore Steam games.

Not just because of Steam, but GFN can take the games i bought out of their library, leaving me with nothing.

I'm only concerned about my old games i still play on this old duster, and find it even obscene i would have to upgrade my computer, to play 2004 era games.

But this nightmare, a lesson. Console is def the way to go, and given many of these games i've always wanted to play are coming to console anyway, only makes the decision all the more the wiser.

But Valve should really change how they word these matters. You do not and will never "own" the games as you do on console, but simply leasing them contingent on the leasing agreement.

Even consoles have a predetermined lifespan. I own one of the backwards compatible launch day PS3s and it's just stopped here because I can't use it - Sony no longer manufactures DualShock 3 controllers, the knockoffs are just garbage and I'm having a very hard time sourcing one that is either new (and original), or in good condition - even with a lot of money to pay for it.

I kind of like the knock offs lol. They're ok if you buy the right ones. I even use a knock off PS3 controller here on PC. I like the PS3 controller, being it just feels more comfortable in my hands. Try Amazon.

As far as games though, i'll always have that. As long as these used consoles are out there to buy, you'll always have your games even if the console breaks.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย World Economic Forum Shill:
Schizophrenia, you haven't realized it but they clearly believe that they are out here to get him, and that they are interested in tracking each and every keystroke to be documented in a World Economic Forum-built data vault which has dirt on every single citizen

1. Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.

2. Keep insulting people that don't lick the boots of the state, that's a great way to be civil in discussions.

3. The World Economic Forum is a glorified seminar where the elite publicly publish how they want to enslave us. Neither the WEF or Klaus have actual power or governing authority.

4. There is a data vault that has dirt on every citizen. It's called the NSA. Snowden and Assange proved it. The FBI puts anyone who says "based" or "take the Red Pill" on a watchlist by their own admission and have infiltrated the Extraordinary Latin Mass dioceses of Catholic Church in the past.
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