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Is gaming dead or am I aging?
I cannot find a new/old game that can keep my attention longer than 2 hours now. When it feels like only a year or two ago I could be stuck for 5+ hours on one game.
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I cannot find a new/old game that can keep my attention longer than 2 hours now. When it feels like only a year or two ago I could be stuck for 5+ hours on one game.

I may have missed it but what games do you like? If you're knocking on 40 like me im more into the survival crafting and things these days.

Try Indie games - Subsistence / 7 days to die / stranded alien dawn / shadows of doubt - check my profile for a list of games i play but really it depends what you like.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jokl:
Is gaming dead or am I aging?
Both. PC gaming is definitely dying right now (and is probably already on life support) and the fact that you experienced PC gaming golden age make it so you can't figure out why it is so bad right now.

I feel exactly the same as you, as do most of the people of my age that I know and are technologically inclined.
People have been saying that PC Gaming is dying for decades now. And everybody has a different definition of "the golden age". It's all subjective bollocks.
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People have been saying that PC Gaming is dying for decades now. And everybody has a different definition of "the golden age". It's all subjective bollocks.
It is not. Absolutely everybody knows that the PC gaming golden age was mid 90's to mid 2000's.

The only point of contention I've ever heard is people more inclined to say it was the early 2000's because that was the birth of 3D gaming. Personally I swing the complete other way by saying the games which were innovating with 3D gaming were bad because it was so bad back then (unsurprisingly, they were the first few games to really do it). I've never really liked "3D" personally, it is simply a different medium for me. While other people would not touch anything which isn't, for some reason.
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People have been saying that PC Gaming is dying for decades now. And everybody has a different definition of "the golden age". It's all subjective bollocks.
It is not. Absolutely everybody knows that the PC gaming golden age was mid 90's to mid 2000's.

The only point of contention I've ever heard is people more inclined to say it was the early 2000's because that was the birth of 3D gaming. Personally I swing the complete other way by saying the games which were innovating with 3D gaming were bad because it was so bad back then (unsurprisingly, they were the first few games to really do it). I've never really liked "3D" personally, it is simply a different medium for me. While other people would not touch anything which isn't, for some reason.
As I said, subjective. Anytime a thread mentions "golden age of gaming" different people give different time periods. So no, it's not "absolutely everybody know bla bla".

For me the golden age of gaming started mid 80s and is still ongoing.
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It is not. Absolutely everybody knows that the PC gaming golden age was mid 90's to mid 2000's.

The only point of contention I've ever heard is people more inclined to say it was the early 2000's because that was the birth of 3D gaming. Personally I swing the complete other way by saying the games which were innovating with 3D gaming were bad because it was so bad back then (unsurprisingly, they were the first few games to really do it). I've never really liked "3D" personally, it is simply a different medium for me. While other people would not touch anything which isn't, for some reason.
As I said, subjective. Anytime a thread mentions "golden age of gaming" different people give different time periods. So no, it's not "absolutely everybody know bla bla".

For me the golden age of gaming started mid 80s and is still ongoing.
Mind actually giving an explanation as to why (or even how?) you would consider that period to be a "golden age"? I'm not going to knock off the fact that it must have been a good time but there wasn't even a critical amount of users back then to even say that the PC gaming industry was even prevalent in anything yet... And most graphics were lines and points.

Meanwhile, the reason why I say it is mid 90's to mid 2000's is because that time became the penultimate time where absolutely everything culminated before getting swept by the 3D era. Every game which wasn't 3D back then were simply the best which had been done yet in term of graphics and in term of resource utilisation, graphic cards and sound cards were getting streamlined to a point you didn't have to hit your head on the wall every single time you wanted to make something work on your computer (or at least the vast majority of the time), etc.

Before you start knocking me off the loop, I did play and experience that era myself too. I'm not just talking out of my hat.
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As I said, subjective. Anytime a thread mentions "golden age of gaming" different people give different time periods. So no, it's not "absolutely everybody know bla bla".

For me the golden age of gaming started mid 80s and is still ongoing.
Mind actually giving an explanation as to why (or even how?) you would consider that period to be a "golden age"? I'm not going to knock off the fact that it must have been a good time but there wasn't even a critical amount of users back then to even say that the PC gaming industry was even prevalent in anything yet... And most graphics were lines and points.

Meanwhile, the reason why I say it is mid 90's to mid 2000's is because that time became the penultimate time where absolutely everything culminated before getting swept by the 3D era. Every game which wasn't 3D back then were simply the best which had been done yet in term of graphics and in term of resource utilisation, graphic cards and sound cards were getting streamlined to a point you didn't have to hit your head on the wall every single time you wanted to make something work on your computer (or at least the vast majority of the time), etc.

Before you start knocking me off the loop, I did play and experience that era myself too. I'm not just talking out of my hat.
When people talk about "golden age", what they really talk about is "a period in gaming which I consider best based on my personal preferences and perspective". And as those preferences and perspective are different for everybody, it also results in different time periods.

Threads in OT have people mostly put their golden age in the mid 00s-mid 10s. But that's mostly because people did not experience the periods before and are only focused on AAA games in the period after.

There is only one thing that is important for me in games: enjoyment. And to this day I play games from every decade since the 80s that I highly enjoy. Every decade had their marvelous and great games, every decade had their progress that gave something to discover, every decade simply delivers a hell of a lot of fun. I quite like how games nowadays have become more of a mixture of genres, for example. I've played amazing games since I started gaming (mid 80s) and up to this day I still do. Whether it's old games or current games.

Which brings me back to things being subjective. People who mainly focus on the techincal aspect will name different time periods than people who simply like certain genres. An RTS fan or an arena shooter fan will have a different golden ages from a battleroyal fan. An old a adventure gamer will have a different golden age from a modern adventure gamer (puzzles are more logical nowadays, though the old ones had charm).

The mid 90s to mis 00s was a nice period. Some of the games on my "most favorite" list are from that time period. But that list also has quite some games from other time periods (even the 20s).

It's the same with "X year was the worst year in gaming". Yes, yes, every year has been the best and the worst year in gaming simultaneously.

It's all subjective. Which is fine, btw. Different people have different strokes.

Edit: I'll add that to this day Alley Cat and Prince of Peria (original) are two of my all-time favotire games that I had on 5¼ inch floppies.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Crazy Tiger; 15 Ιουλ 2023, 7:19
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Can't help but feel like you're either looking in the wrong places or you're bitter your favourite genre has fallen out of favor or absorbed by the mainstream.

As a single player gamer who dislike the microtransactions trend I still have loads of games to play.
I feel the same way and I think alot of people feel the same way, I grew up with gaming, there were always cool new releases with new ground breaking stuff, the sky was the limit, it feels like now gaming has kind of stagnated, nothing original anymore, everything is recycled, just different themes.

There are some games out there though that are pretty decent with developers who do it out of passion but they never receive a big enough playerbase to become major studios that can implement their visions, everyone is busy playing the same games for the past 10 years.

I probably gamed too much to be honest, nothing can impress anymore. But the things I hoped to see implemented in the future and a child gamer has never really arrived, things have just got fancier graphics but way less depth.

Another thing that puts me off as a multiplayer gamer is that most of these games are just around for a year or two before the studio release the next one or the game dies.
There's no longevity or sense of accomplishment, everything you do is for nothing.

I wish games were made with the intention of being around forever, being worked on and updated instead of just releasing new ones, I wouldn't even mind paying a subscription like World of Warcraft, but they really ruined that game. Should have just stuck with vanilla and expanded on it.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Adam; 15 Ιουλ 2023, 8:29
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Eagle_of_Fire:
Mind actually giving an explanation as to why (or even how?) you would consider that period to be a "golden age"? I'm not going to knock off the fact that it must have been a good time but there wasn't even a critical amount of users back then to even say that the PC gaming industry was even prevalent in anything yet... And most graphics were lines and points.

Meanwhile, the reason why I say it is mid 90's to mid 2000's is because that time became the penultimate time where absolutely everything culminated before getting swept by the 3D era. Every game which wasn't 3D back then were simply the best which had been done yet in term of graphics and in term of resource utilisation, graphic cards and sound cards were getting streamlined to a point you didn't have to hit your head on the wall every single time you wanted to make something work on your computer (or at least the vast majority of the time), etc.

Before you start knocking me off the loop, I did play and experience that era myself too. I'm not just talking out of my hat.
When people talk about "golden age", what they really talk about is "a period in gaming which I consider best based on my personal preferences and perspective". And as those preferences and perspective are different for everybody, it also results in different time periods.

Threads in OT have people mostly put their golden age in the mid 00s-mid 10s. But that's mostly because people did not experience the periods before and are only focused on AAA games in the period after.

There is only one thing that is important for me in games: enjoyment. And to this day I play games from every decade since the 80s that I highly enjoy. Every decade had their marvelous and great games, every decade had their progress that gave something to discover, every decade simply delivers a hell of a lot of fun. I quite like how games nowadays have become more of a mixture of genres, for example. I've played amazing games since I started gaming (mid 80s) and up to this day I still do. Whether it's old games or current games.

Which brings me back to things being subjective. People who mainly focus on the techincal aspect will name different time periods than people who simply like certain genres. An RTS fan or an arena shooter fan will have a different golden ages from a battleroyal fan. An old a adventure gamer will have a different golden age from a modern adventure gamer (puzzles are more logical nowadays, though the old ones had charm).

The mid 90s to mis 00s was a nice period. Some of the games on my "most favorite" list are from that time period. But that list also has quite some games from other time periods (even the 20s).

It's the same with "X year was the worst year in gaming". Yes, yes, every year has been the best and the worst year in gaming simultaneously.

It's all subjective. Which is fine, btw. Different people have different strokes.

Edit: I'll add that to this day Alley Cat and Prince of Peria (original) are two of my all-time favotire games that I had on 5¼ inch floppies.
Well see... I'm having a huge disconnect here. You say that most people talk about their golden age with rose tinted glasses and you end up saying exactly the same thing.

Meanwhile, I have actual arguments and notions to provide for my own reasoning and I purposely do my best to make sure that it is not a question of personal opinion or judgement.

One thing I'll easily agree without retort is that it is very hard to get to a consensus. If only since people are hardly ever talking about the same thing.
Try Death Stranding, One Way Heroics, Disco Elysium, Hades, Yakuza 0, Dead Rising, Nier Replicant, Metal Gear Rising, The Good Life (janky but i'll say it anyways)

If nothing there clicks with you, no idea. They're all pretty interesting.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από sumolagann; 15 Ιουλ 2023, 8:39
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When people talk about "golden age", what they really talk about is "a period in gaming which I consider best based on my personal preferences and perspective". And as those preferences and perspective are different for everybody, it also results in different time periods.

Threads in OT have people mostly put their golden age in the mid 00s-mid 10s. But that's mostly because people did not experience the periods before and are only focused on AAA games in the period after.

There is only one thing that is important for me in games: enjoyment. And to this day I play games from every decade since the 80s that I highly enjoy. Every decade had their marvelous and great games, every decade had their progress that gave something to discover, every decade simply delivers a hell of a lot of fun. I quite like how games nowadays have become more of a mixture of genres, for example. I've played amazing games since I started gaming (mid 80s) and up to this day I still do. Whether it's old games or current games.

Which brings me back to things being subjective. People who mainly focus on the techincal aspect will name different time periods than people who simply like certain genres. An RTS fan or an arena shooter fan will have a different golden ages from a battleroyal fan. An old a adventure gamer will have a different golden age from a modern adventure gamer (puzzles are more logical nowadays, though the old ones had charm).

The mid 90s to mis 00s was a nice period. Some of the games on my "most favorite" list are from that time period. But that list also has quite some games from other time periods (even the 20s).

It's the same with "X year was the worst year in gaming". Yes, yes, every year has been the best and the worst year in gaming simultaneously.

It's all subjective. Which is fine, btw. Different people have different strokes.

Edit: I'll add that to this day Alley Cat and Prince of Peria (original) are two of my all-time favotire games that I had on 5¼ inch floppies.
Well see... I'm having a huge disconnect here. You say that most people talk about their golden age with rose tinted glasses and you end up saying exactly the same thing.

Meanwhile, I have actual arguments and notions to provide for my own reasoning and I purposely do my best to make sure that it is not a question of personal opinion or judgement.

One thing I'll easily agree without retort is that it is very hard to get to a consensus. If only since people are hardly ever talking about the same thing.
I'm not excluding myself when I say how people talk about golden ages.

Your "actual arguments and notions" are merely subjective opinions, though. Your view on how it was before 3D is just that, a subjective opinion.

But as I said before, what is a golden age for people is subjective. And you just agreed on that, so thank you.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jokl:
I cannot find a new/old game that can keep my attention longer than 2 hours now. When it feels like only a year or two ago I could be stuck for 5+ hours on one game.

Honestly, it depends on the game. I rarely find games I get get into like that these days, but I still enjoy games that I play for a short period then off to something else. It is all about personal preference though and not really about gaming in general.

I just find some games draw me in more so then others and that isn't really a bad thing. I'll play a game that draws me in, when I have time to be drawn in, and a game that only draws me in for a short period when I only have a short amount of time.

Starfield will likely be one to draw me in, as many open world Bethesda games tend to do, so I know I am looking forward to that one. While Diablo 4 I can only play in short bursts.
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