Surprised at the amount of w7 users in 2023.

[Chispa]

People, microsoft itself does not support w7 anymore, considering how completely unsafe it is to use a computer with internet conexion on w7, not having steam support should be the last of your worries.

[PocketYoda]

Chispa の投稿を引用：

People, microsoft itself does not support w7 anymore, considering how completely unsafe it is to use a computer with internet conexion on w7, not having steam support should be the last of your worries.

W7 was way better than W10 and W11.. I upgraded a few years ago and i still to this day miss W7.. it ran better when it was patched right and it was way less bloated, way less Microsoft spyware and useless crap..

I so wish i could go back but its not feasible these days.. I'm considering moving to PS5 in 2025 when W10 runs out.

[crunchyfrog]

PocketYoda の投稿を引用：

Chispa の投稿を引用：

People, microsoft itself does not support w7 anymore, considering how completely unsafe it is to use a computer with internet conexion on w7, not having steam support should be the last of your worries.

W7 was way better than W10 and W11.. I upgraded a few years ago and i still to this day miss W7.. it ran better when it was patched right and it was way less bloated, way less Microsoft spyware and useless crap..

I so wish i could go back but its not feasible these days.. I'm considering moving to PS5 in 2025 when W10 runs out.

I can easily demosntrate you are wrong, depending on your metrics.

If you mean you LIKED how it worked, fine.

But I've already pointed this out on another thread.

I've used home computers since they started. I have loads of them to this day. I've used CPM, DOS, and Windows from 3 onwards. Mixed results with all of them, some I liked a couple I just couldn't get on with.

7 was nice over all, but 10 isn't markedly different in feel at all. It's FAR easier to use though once you have the hang. The seamless integration of USB devices is a massive bonus, and where 10 and 11 beats everything is with compatibility.

7 still was pretty wobbly as far as running games of various ages - some worked, some didn't.

But on my Steam account I have over 900 games (I think). In the last couple of years I've installed 500 of them on this laptop. ALL except All Zombies must die work. Killing Floor didn't work at first but did after a Windows update.

I've never had Windows have that kind of success rate.

On top of this I have a load of USB devices, synthesizers, audio stuff like mixers, FX units and so on. ALL work fine, which is another weird one as I've never had that before.

So to say that 7 is better on a metric like that (which I'd token is a metric that a LOT of people are concerned about) is just wrong.

[Tito Shivan]

PocketYoda の投稿を引用：

W7 was way better than W10

Ironically that was not what people were saying when Steam dropped WinXP support, 'forcing' people to jump on W7.

Story repeating itself and all that jazz.

[niralamart000]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

PocketYoda の投稿を引用：

W7 was way better than W10

Ironically that was not what people were saying when Steam dropped WinXP support, 'forcing' people to jump on W7.

Story repeating itself and all that jazz.

hell nah, 7 dog piles 10. it's smooth as balls and isn't a giant bloatware

[Hangry Henrys]

niralamart000 の投稿を引用：

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Ironically that was not what people were saying when Steam dropped WinXP support, 'forcing' people to jump on W7.

Story repeating itself and all that jazz.

hell nah, 7 dog piles 10. it's smooth as balls and isn't a giant bloatware

Well 1 jan is almost around the corner

Anyway you last played in 2019 so i dont think its a loss

[Low Standards]

Linux is the answer. It just is.

[Gnome]

Next year, Windows 7 will be 15 years old. That's almost two decades! It's like using Windows 95 in 2010. Time to let it go.

Also, it wouldn't hurt trying a Linux distro. It's what I did a couple of years ago and never came back to Windows. In fact, Linux Mint Cinnamon is just as light as Windows 7, as you can see in this video below:

https://youtu.be/iYJ1SBqZywc?si=MnTZ-G_S-YW73ueT

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

ikr ppl hated win7 and were disgusted they had to switch from xp to use 7

now they dont want to give 7 up

just goes to show when its time to stop win10 ppl will be in the same boat not wanting to give 10 up

definition of insanity: keep doing the same thing expecting different results

[pasa]

Chispa の投稿を引用：

People, microsoft itself does not support w7 anymore, considering how completely unsafe it is to use a computer with internet conexion on w7, not having steam support should be the last of your worries.

You ate too much propaganda. Last issue of W7 is way more secure on internet than last W10 or 11. With some luck W10 might rech it 4-5 years ahead after it stops hetting the every half-year infusions of new problems.

On hardware where W7 is supported it's way superior over the later versions. Though by now that hardware is getting scarce, as any ryzen and 7+ gen intel requires 10. While the old boxes tick, the sensible people hold out. And the zealots and ignorants come here in flock for the bashing to replace living a successful real life.

[Zef]

Low Standards の投稿を引用：

Linux is the answer. It just is.

Too complicated for normies.

Yes even with Proton.

You know how it works , woops a game update and proton doesn't work anymore, have to try proton experimental, woops doesn't work, let me try to find a Proton GE version that does until it's patched again.

I mean it's a miracle that the majority of the games actually run under Proton in the first place with relatively small fps loss but it's still and never will be as good as running native.

[niralamart000]

Zef の投稿を引用：

Low Standards の投稿を引用：

Linux is the answer. It just is.

Too complicated for normies.

Yes even with Proton.

You know how it works , woops a game update and proton doesn't work anymore, have to try proton experimental, woops doesn't work, let me try to find a Proton GE version that does until it's patched again.

I mean it's a miracle that the majority of the games actually run under Proton in the first place with relatively small fps loss but it's still and never will be as good as running native.

nah just too inconvenient to use and more of a hobbyist's OS, still pretty good alternative

[Smart]

@ Kage Goomba:

That was exatly my point: "Adopt or don`t". See? You have no choice.
And this is why it´s being forced.

You can be forced by governments, by elite (People which rule/lead the world, also called WEF), or by police. Or the hell: Even by your neighbour or some bank robber (Forcing you to do something you don´t want, but if you don´t do it, you´ll die, this can be with a weapon or without). So you see? Force is everywhere in 2023.

Also read again: I said the bus-payment app does not even WORK in my city. See, why this is epic fail of 2024 allready (before the year has even started)? People are allready laughing about the fact that in 2024 buses-payment will not be possible in my ciity. This is how ugly it allready gets. Some are even considering doing a strike as well.

It´s exactly like "Deutsche Bahn". Nothing works there anymore. It´s a mess. not a train any longer. It´s chaos. It´s pure evil mess (And you better pray to not ever get into it).

And in this case here it´s not Valve forcing people to do...

But it´s Microsoft. Since Microsoft created this OS. And Microsoft is forcing people to "move on" since ages, since they first created their OSes to begin with. But each OS you "moved on" to is actually a downgrade compared to the last version. People just didnt notice this all years. Because new functions are also added.

So in this case, Valve cannot do anything against it actually.

But this doesn´t change it. It´s simply indirect force of the creator of the OS... which many people didn´t even notice they are depending on this...until this year when they might have created their Steam-account. Or they haven´t noticed this fact, despite the point they have been using MS-OSes since the last 10 years.

In the end you are being driven to a world in where you own nothing any more. That´s their goal. And if you haven´t noticed this yet: Even Nintendo particiates in this mess now!

They all want you to be depending on "services". Because this means, once the internet is gone (and nobody knows how much longer it can last, 3-5 years maybe?) you will own nothing any longer. People which have thrown away all their DVDs, CDs and Blurays in the last years since they said "Internet-streaming is more comfortable" will be...♥♥♥♥♥♥ as americans say...!

[PocketYoda]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

PocketYoda の投稿を引用：

W7 was way better than W10

Ironically that was not what people were saying when Steam dropped WinXP support, 'forcing' people to jump on W7.

Story repeating itself and all that jazz.

WinXP was nice but really unstable.

[Smart]

^^ Yeah, i still remember Windows XP´s countless Bluescreens...or even "It takes 99 days, 99 hours and 99 minutess until this copy-process is finished" xD

But you see? Today you have not many such bluescreens on more modern Windows but you also have no more such functions in Windows 11!

Windows 11 cannot even burn a simple DVD/Bluray anylonger, since it will crash/not end the burning-process successfully when you try doing so. At least many people i know have issues with such simple things as burning a CD/DVD in Windows 10 or 11. You might say "But why are you needing to do that in 2023?" Well like i said: Stuff you burn cannot be that easily destroyed and you actually own this.
Exception: when you use a low-quality medium.

the hell, some people have even started burning their own WiiU-readable-Discs (backup-copies) because these Disc-games are no longer sold in the online shop and Discs of these games are getting more and more rare now. and that´s despite how low sells this machine had in the past. Reason: The device allows you to do that. It allows them to create valid backups of their games. You just need a suitable non-standard DVD-burner and then you can do that. And this allows them now to have their games even working, when their original disc breaks or some other problems like that.
it also allows you to put stuff you don´t want on an external optical medium.

[pasa]

PocketYoda の投稿を引用：

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

Ironically that was not what people were saying when Steam dropped WinXP support, 'forcing' people to jump on W7.

Story repeating itself and all that jazz.

WinXP was nice but really unstable.

XP was son of the "buffer overruns everywhere" era in MS. It had 6 (7?) service packs and the last version still way worse than the sontemporary W7SP1. And W7 did not get (or needed) a SP -- and the individual updates were fixing stuff mostly irrelevant to a home user. W7 was made well after the security push and it shows.

While SOME people were surely saying what Tito claims, they were a fraction of those today.

And the way "forward" is much different, as in the meantime MS changed rails and switched wo a half-yearly disposable (what is service life of say 18H2?) release model that is the exact opposite of good practice of security. And also dropped lot of features struggling for the UWP to meld mobile and desktop to a common denominator. crippling the desktop at every step.

Making W10 as console-ized version. Maybe those in love with their smartphones can enjoy the same crap on the pc and not mind the related fallout either. But that is not all the people.

For those who care about their PC be actually personal and run what the owner wants rather than MS wants, and cares about privacy and security, W10 is a huge step down. No matter how many shills serving mammon claim the opposite loudly and trying to drag in all kinds of invalid examples.