Why moderators ignore ethical slurs?

[Rondo]

Could someone explain to me why people freely uses ethnical slurs in their profiles, calls for violence, uses symbols of hate etc. Doesn't steam have an obligation to maintain order on its platform? EU/US do not require anything from them?

OP called my country "ebanaya" (means "f**ked") on Steam forums and moderators bans everybody who resented , but not OP itself.

Explain it to me, please.

[Satoru]

Report posts that violate the rules

That does not give you the right to violate rules in return though

[BJWyler]

Because they can't catch everything with millions of user Globally. Report anything that breaks the rules, then block and move on if necessary. That's all we can do as users.

[Jon the VGNerd]

Автор сообщения: BJWyler

Because they can't catch everything with millions of user Globally. Report anything that breaks the rules, then block and move on if necessary. That's all we can do as users.

When moderators are short-staffed, Valve is doing something wrong though they're too afraid to admit it.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Jon the VGNerd

When moderators are short-staffed

It's not really a matter of staff.

Sites as large as these cannot be effectively moderated proactively. Just like Youtube doesn't have neither time nor personnel to actively review all the daily produced content.

It's simply not feasible.

[chill out]

Автор сообщения: Rondo

Could someone explain to me why people freely uses ethnical slurs in their profiles, calls for violence, uses symbols of hate etc. Doesn't steam have an obligation to maintain order on its platform? EU/US do not require anything from them?

OP called my country "ebanaya" (means "f**ked") on Steam forums and moderators bans everybody who resented , but not OP itself.

Explain it to me, please.

US/EU law is for policing US/EU cultures.
To US/EU people, ebanaya is a funny word that sounds kinda like banana yeah.

It's unreasonable to expect someone to know every slur in every culture, or speak all the world's languages, especially for each individual game subforum. You can report the user profile and carefully explain the translation and why it's bad, but that's a lot of extra work for you. That said, if you feel strongly about it, this is the solution available to you.

Honestly, the idea that there are even "bad words" in the first place is rather a fundamentally broken pursuit, but somehow, politicking has made it so. Personally, I think a better solution is just to allow all dialogue, and teach users/people the world over not to react to words on a screen.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Jon the VGNerd

When moderators are short-staffed

It's not really a matter of staff.

Sites as large as these cannot be effectively moderated proactively. Just like Youtube doesn't have neither time nor personnel to actively review all the daily produced content.

It's simply not feasible.

Neither does Twitter. Bots spam likes on everything and their accounts only have a link to random adult sites.

[Rondo]

Автор сообщения: Majora

It's unreasonable to expect someone to know every slur in every culture, or speak all the world's languages, especially for each individual game subforum. You can report the user profile and carefully explain the translation and why it's bad, but that's a lot of extra work for you. That said, if you feel strongly about it, this is the solution available to you.

I did that, thanks. I know that mods can't be everywhere at once, that why I sent a lot of reports. But they keeps ignoring obviously ethically insult's.
Fresh example: Here is a guy who openly harassing other guy because of his nationality (Moldavian). Wanna hear best part of this case? Gabe Newell moderators deleted messages from victim of bullying, but left jokes about how stupid his nationality is. Is this official policy of Steam?

!!! Names are blurred
https://imgur.com/a/8IQdl6F

[crunchyfrog]

They do but they simply don't have the time to sit and kepp going through profiles - no business purpose to do so.

They rely on YOU to see these and report via their profile.

[rawWwRrr]

Автор сообщения: Rondo

OP called my country "ebanaya" (means "f**ked") on Steam forums and moderators bans everybody who resented , but not OP itself.

Explain it to me, please.

Sounds like a bunch of people reacted negatively, probably posted insults of their own, and rightly got moderated for it.

As far as OP and the use of "ebanaya", or "♥♥♥♥♥♥", it's not very well known as an insult. Was this explained in the reports of the OP? Calmly and collectively? Maybe it wasn't made clear enough for the moderators to fully understand.

Edit: Apparently the word filter is appropriately censoring the correct spelling.

[Satoru]

Автор сообщения: rawWwRrr

Автор сообщения: Rondo

OP called my country "ebanaya" (means "f**ked") on Steam forums and moderators bans everybody who resented , but not OP itself.

Explain it to me, please.

Sounds like a bunch of people reacted negatively, probably posted insults of their own, and rightly got moderated for it.

As far as OP and the use of "ebanaya", or "♥♥♥♥♥♥", it's not very well known as an insult. Was this explained in the reports of the OP? Calmly and collectively? Maybe it wasn't made clear enough for the moderators to fully understand.

Edit: Apparently the word filter is appropriately censoring the correct spelling.

I'd be slightly more inclined to feel sorry for the OP if they weren't actively and totally being offensive to Russians at every possible opportunity in their post history. Its more a case of "rules for thee but not for me" than a moderation problem.

[rawWwRrr]

Автор сообщения: Satoru

Автор сообщения: rawWwRrr

Sounds like a bunch of people reacted negatively, probably posted insults of their own, and rightly got moderated for it.

As far as OP and the use of "ebanaya", or "♥♥♥♥♥♥", it's not very well known as an insult. Was this explained in the reports of the OP? Calmly and collectively? Maybe it wasn't made clear enough for the moderators to fully understand.

Edit: Apparently the word filter is appropriately censoring the correct spelling.

I'd be slightly more inclined to feel sorry for the OP if they weren't actively and totally being offensive to Russians at every possible opportunity in their post history. Its more a case of "rules for thee but not for me" than a moderation problem.

Considering the conflict, I'm not surprised that we're seeing the two groups taking jabs at each other. But that aside, it's the same old reaction to being moderated for their own toxic replies.

[Rondo]

Автор сообщения: Satoru

Автор сообщения: rawWwRrr

Sounds like a bunch of people reacted negatively, probably posted insults of their own, and rightly got moderated for it.

As far as OP and the use of "ebanaya", or "♥♥♥♥♥♥", it's not very well known as an insult. Was this explained in the reports of the OP? Calmly and collectively? Maybe it wasn't made clear enough for the moderators to fully understand.

Edit: Apparently the word filter is appropriately censoring the correct spelling.

I'd be slightly more inclined to feel sorry for the OP if they weren't actively and totally being offensive to Russians at every possible opportunity in their post history. Its more a case of "rules for thee but not for me" than a moderation problem.

Yeah, because specific users (guess who) comes to thread called "Ukrainian Localization" and in very offensive manner, with tons of chauvinism and slurs says that Ukrainian language (during the genocide, and oppression of the language is part of this process) is a "pig language" and "never existed" (again — it's pure Nazism).

Yes, I'm kinda upset about that, especially if this type of messages keeps ignored for days by moderatorss. Go and dig slightly deeper by yourself who you tried to protect.

[Rondo]

Nice try to change subject guys, good tactic, but:
— offensive ethical jokes that offend specifics nation (this time Moldovans) happened
— provoked or not, instead of react on something with report/block, guy said Nazi stuff aloud in public place
— guy not banned for this, instead moderator deleted message of a victim

I can ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about russians all day long, and despite the fact that it will be 100% morally correct, I will agree with the ban, because this is a violation of the rules of the platform on my part. And now pay attention: ethnical jokes/slurs also breaks the rules of platform and those (this time it's russian dude, next time could be someone else) who said ethnical insults should be ALSO banned.

Why this guy not banned? — this is the only question that interests me.

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Jon the VGNerd

When moderators are short-staffed

It's not really a matter of staff.

Sites as large as these cannot be effectively moderated proactively. Just like Youtube doesn't have neither time nor personnel to actively review all the daily produced content.

It's simply not feasible.

They don't need to be proactive. Amazing that you (and some other people here) are assuming the op hasn't reported a post insulting their country...

[Pierce Dalton]

Автор сообщения: Rondo

Nice try to change subject guys, good tactic, but:
— offensive ethical jokes that offend specifics nation (this time Moldovans) happened
— provoked or not, instead of react on something with report/block, guy said Nazi stuff aloud in public place
— guy not banned for this, instead moderator deleted message of a victim

I can ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about russians all day long, and despite the fact that it will be 100% morally correct, I will agree with the ban, because this is a violation of the rules of the platform on my part. And now pay attention: ethnical jokes/slurs also breaks the rules of platform and those (this time it's russian dude, next time could be someone else) who said ethnical insults should be ALSO banned.

Why this guy not banned? — this is the only question that interests me.

Certain moderators like to troll users. In other words, they enjoy upseting people.