Take-Two TOS Change

[Void]

So this is the TOS change in Borderlands

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands2/comments/1jg5yju/bro_ive_been_playing_this_for_years_and_it/#lightbox

It basically states, that you cant critize Take-Two or Gearbox, cant sue them since this is a waiver for Class Action litigation / Jury Trial, and they will use your personal data and sell them, name, adress, ip adress, phone number, PC ID, Smarthphone ID. And so on.

They will sue you if you "misrepresent" them on youtube.

This TOS will pop up when you open Borderlands 2 even tho you have been playing this game for years.

This whole stunt from Take-Two looks highly illegal in Europe lol. Why is this even allowed on steam, letting people sign waivers years after they bought the game and preventing people playing multiplayer if you dont agree.

Edit: Hotsauce is at Section 2.1; 6.3. (3); 7.1

And for the love of god, dont copy paste that whole thing into chatgpt and act like its the definitv awnser. Even tho its powerful its still flawed since it coudlnt see how the TOS prevents you from "misrepresenting" Take-Two and their intellectual property. Section 6.3 (3)

Edit: I was wrong on some parts but im still right on others.
If you want to add something, explain atleast why. Dont just say " youre wrong" without any explantaion.


Still, this TOS Change is wet dog doo doo and you cant deny that.

[Boblin the Goblin]

It says none of that.

[sumolagann]

I just avoid anything with 2k at all, sadly you can still be randomly tricked since they own other publishers

[Void]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

It says none of that.

This is juse 3 screenshots from that whole thing

Go on the storepage and click on the eula, there it is in full lengh,
Im not opening BL2 to take screesnhots since i dont want to accidentaly agree to that bs.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

It basically states, that you cant critize Take-Two or Gearbox, cant sue them since this is a waiver for Class Action litigation / Jury Trial, and they will use your personal data and sell them, name, adress, ip adress, phone number, PC ID, Smarthphone ID. And so on.

Which youtuber did you hear that nonsense from?

By the way: BL2 forums are that way: https://steamcommunity.com/app/49520

Edit: Now reading the whole TOS I came across the part the regular suspects are reeeeing about:

When using our Services, you have the obligation and responsibility to help us ensure that Services are inclusive and respectful for all users and our employees and contractors. You must follow the User Rules in Section 6, while using the Services, Virtual Items, or your Account.

Translated to normal speak: "Don't be a ♥♥♥♥ in game"

[Void]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

It basically states, that you cant critize Take-Two or Gearbox, cant sue them since this is a waiver for Class Action litigation / Jury Trial, and they will use your personal data and sell them, name, adress, ip adress, phone number, PC ID, Smarthphone ID. And so on.

Which youtuber did you hear that nonsense from?

By the way: BL2 forums are that way: https://steamcommunity.com/app/49520

Edit: Now reading the whole TOS I came across the part the regular suspects are reeeeing about:

When using our Services, you have the obligation and responsibility to help us ensure that Services are inclusive and respectful for all users and our employees and contractors. You must follow the User Rules in Section 6, while using the Services, Virtual Items, or your Account.

Translated to normal speak: "Don't be a ♥♥♥♥ in game"

Feel free to read more than the first paragraph.

Here is just a few screenshots of it.
https://imgur.com/a/ZMcCvb8

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

Whenever I want to show that I understand a document, I take screenshots of random parts of it.

[Void]

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:

Whenever I want to show that I understand a document, I take screenshots of random parts of it.

Well, some people cant be bothered to read more than the first paragraph, so screenshoted some highlights. Whats wrong with that?

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:

Whenever I want to show that I understand a document, I take screenshots of random parts of it.

The best part is citing the DMCA section which has nothing to do with....

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

It basically states, that you cant critize Take-Two or Gearbox, cant sue them since this is a waiver for Class Action litigation / Jury Trial, and they will use your personal data and sell them, name, adress, ip adress, phone number, PC ID, Smarthphone ID. And so on.

They will sue you if you "misrepresent" them on youtube.

which does require you to provide name, address, and phone number, but since a DMCA request is an official legal declaration, you kind of have to. That's part of the process.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:

Whenever I want to show that I understand a document, I take screenshots of random parts of it.

Well, some people cant be bothered to read more than the first paragraph, so screenshoted some highlights. Whats wrong with that?

How about YOU quote the relevant sections that pertains to:

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

that you cant critize Take-Two or Gearbox

Where is this?

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

, cant sue them since this is a waiver for Class Action litigation / Jury Trial,

That, at least, is in the TOS, but that is essentially boiler plate legalese of any TOS these days. Steam had it for years before removing it just recently.

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

and they will use your personal data and sell them, name, adress, ip adress, phone number, PC ID, Smarthphone ID. And so on.

Where is this?

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

They will sue you if you "misrepresent" them on youtube.

Where is this?

[rawWwRrr]

I copypastad the entire TOS.

"Can't find the text YouTube in the entire file"

"Can't find the text smartphone in the entire file"

Search IP shows:
"We Reserve All Rights to our IP."
"You will not use IP proxying"

"Can't find the text gearbox in the entire file"

[rawWwRrr]

6.3. Code of Conduct. You agree that:

1. Do not use exploits.
2. Do not dox.
3. Do not engage in fraud.
4. Do not upload gore.
5. Do not upload/promote self-harm.
6. Do not bully.
7. Do not upload porn.
8. Do not be pdf file.
9. Do not hate speech.
10. Do not support terrorism.
11. Follow additional rules.
12. Do not do illegal.

Where is the do not criticize Take-two or Gearbox?

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

Well, some people cant be bothered to read more than the first paragraph

Indeed.

[Amaterasu]

Gonna make me read an entire EULA for you.

Ah yes, the thing you're worried about. Number 8. The DMCA and Take-Down Requests part.

8. DMCA and Take-Down Requests.
8.1. Notice of Copyright or Trademark Infringement. We respond to notices of copyright infringement that meet the requirements of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. § 512 (“DMCA”). If you believe that any Content, UGC, Custom Content, or other aspect of the Services constitutes copyright infringement or misappropriation of your trademark, please submit a notice of alleged infringement to our designated agent with the following written information:

(1) Your name, address, telephone number, and email address;

(2) A detailed description of the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed;

(3) The URL or a detailed description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located;

(4) Your statement that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or applicable law;

(5) Your statement, under penalty of perjury, that the information in your notice is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner; and

(6) A physical or electronic signature of owner of the copyright at issue or person authorized to act on their behalf.

Our designated agent contact information is:

Service Provider: Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.

Mailing Address: Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.

110 W 44th Street

New York, NY 10036

United States of America

Attention: DMCA Takedown Notice

Telephone: [phone]

Email: [e-mail]

Please note that under the DMCA, you may be liable for damages (including costs and attorney fees) if you knowingly misrepresent that material or activity is infringing. Please also note that the information provided in your copyright infringement notice may be provided to the person responsible for the allegedly infringing material.

Or basically. "If you're going to engage in legal practices with us, we're going to need information so that we can be sure you're a real person and check to see if you do legally hold this copyright instead of some random person named Seymour Asses trying to get a patent troll going".

Guess what, you gotta do the same thing if you file a DMCA takedown on Youtube or... anywhere else.

Edit: Read the whole thing and if I someone over the legal driving limit of .08 can see that there's none of this, "Don't criticize gearbox" in the EULA... sober people have no excuse.

[Void]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

I copypastad the entire TOS.

"Can't find the text YouTube in the entire file"

"Can't find the text smartphone in the entire file"

Search IP shows:
"We Reserve All Rights to our IP."
"You will not use IP proxying"

"Can't find the text gearbox in the entire file"

Your Personal Data from your Take-Two Account which includes all Data from your Google Account if you have signed in with a Google Account and agreed with their EULA.
Its stated on Section 2.1. This Section Also Includes " We Reserve All Rights to our IP".

I will post the other sections soon.

[Amaterasu]

Originally posted by CEO of Europe:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

I copypastad the entire TOS.

"Can't find the text YouTube in the entire file"

"Can't find the text smartphone in the entire file"

Search IP shows:
"We Reserve All Rights to our IP."
"You will not use IP proxying"

"Can't find the text gearbox in the entire file"

Your Personal Data from your Take-Two Account which includes all Data from your Google Account if you have signed in with a Google Account and agreed with their EULA.
Its stated on Section 2.1. This Section Also Includes " We Reserve All Rights to our IP".

I will post the other sections soon.

Bro, my Google Account thinks my Legal name is Stanley Steamer and that I was born on October 29... in 1952. Trust me when I say this. None of that is accurate. And before you ask, I am pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sure I'm not 72.