Do you think boycotting Epic hand-me-down publishers has a negative impact on Steam?

[Kmordain]

I just can't help wondering if Epic spent as much money on development and UIX as they do on exclusivity deals to get people to use their POS launcher, would their launcher still be a POS?

I mean, steam is going to get my money every time, but I'm starting to wonder if I should skip the second-hand epic games entirely and punish the publishers for their transgression. I mean Steam is going to get my money anyway, I will just spend it on other games.

I'm not saying Valve has always been worthy, but their launcher and many of their games have been worth my time and my money for years now.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: DiceDsx

Valve managed to make Alyx at least (although some people won't admit it because it's a VR title) and said that they have multiple games in development (Valve Time still applies though).

Epic kinda abandoned every other project once Fortnite became a massive hit.

I do give Valve a smaller edge in that regard over Epic. As they developed Alyx (Although just a VR game) and tried with Underlords and Artifact.

I was really looking forward for a new Unreal Tournament. Shame Epic didn't feel like it, because IMO it would have been a Epic store hit in the same way HL2 was for Steam or BF3 for Origin.

[PocketYoda]

Автор сообщения: MancSoulja

Автор сообщения: Muppet among Puppets

Some people probably understand it better the other way around:

Imagine epic had been the usual thing.
And then steam came around, and it was better.

Steam was terrible for more than a decade. EGS is literally miles ahead of where Valve was with Steam at this point.

For me personally steam was far superior early on than it is today.. way better. That said i wont use epic because of the way they treat customers and their exclusives bs..

[Kmordain]

Автор сообщения: The

Автор сообщения: koRRupted mInd

But i also hate Epic Games. theyre dividing the PC Market, they just throw Fortnite Money at the Screen to ♥♥♥♥ Steam. Theyre not actually bringing any Value or Competition.

This sounds extremely contradictory. A competitive market requires a divide, else it's a centralised monster that consumes everything.

While I don't necessarily agree with the anger and hostility here, what I believe koRRupted mInd is saying is that the Epic store and launcher are not competition for Steam. Just because it's an alternative store doesn't make it a good one and that's not competition.

I would be ok with Epic if they brought something to market that inspired competition and created that drive for innovation, but that's simply not the case here.

Yeah I'm not a fan of exclusivity deals, but as you said, that's between me and the publisher and my initial question was regarding whether or not a mass boycott would theoretically harm Steam.

But the exclusivity deals isn't what makes Epic trash. It's the fact that they have the money, enough to buy these publishers for exclusivity. They have the ADVANTAGE of someone else's innovation and they can't even hit the market on a level playing field. They still opened with a ♥♥♥♥ launcher and store.

And btw, I don't hate them. I just want them to spend some of their money on R&D and maybe convince me to run a second non-proprietary launcher on my PC. I'm not opposed to splitting my library, I am opposed to installing trash on my computer. (And don't judge me for titles in my library with that statement :)

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: DanteYoda

For me personally steam was far superior early on than it is today..

There wasn't much to compare them with either.

Автор сообщения: Kmordain

I would be ok with Epic if they brought something to market that inspired competition and created that drive for innovation, but that's simply not the case here.

That's why I don't trust the platform to give them my money so far (Note I felt the same about Origin for a long time)
Them entering the business like a bull in a china store (Sort of like how Origin mad it's entrance, but worse). Them being highly litigious and disruptive, business-wise. Making business 101 mistakes being a business the size they are and the lack of features I could find attractive on their service (I'm not a release buyer, so exclusives bear no relevance to me, and I have a large enough library for their freebies to be irrelevant) make me not want to put my money there.

[DiceDsx]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Kmordain

I would be ok with Epic if they brought something to market that inspired competition and created that drive for innovation, but that's simply not the case here.

That's why I don't trust the platform to give them my money so far (Note I felt the same about Origin for a long time)
Them entering the business like a bull in a china store (Sort of like how Origin mad it's entrance, but worse). Them being highly litigious and disruptive, business-wise. Making business 101 mistakes being a business the size they are and the lack of features I could find attractive on their service (I'm not a release buyer, so exclusives bear no relevance to me, and I have a large enough library for their freebies to be irrelevant) make me not want to put my money there.

Imho, I don't think EGS is doing well right now:

-The free games attract people that don't really spend money in the store;
-The coupons are a loss for Epic so, ironically, they might not want people to use them;
-The exclusives aren't bringing them money: as of June 2020 only Borderlands 3, Satisfactory and probably Dauntless were profitable;
-They had to lower their revenue projections for the store from 2020 and onward.

Things aren't looking good...

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Budnick

Автор сообщения: DiceDsx

Opening the store wasn't wrong.

Aggressively taking as exclusives games that were coming to Steam while acting as the savior of PC Gaming was.

but why hate epic? i thought its the publisher/devs choice to move to EGS. just because they offer money for exclusives they dont have to take the deal.

Because they offer ♥♥♥♥ practices for consumers.
Because they lie (like when they championed taking less of a cut from devs and yet miraculously those cost savings were not passed on to consumers were they).
Becuase they can't even operate a simple store and ♥♥♥♥ over consumers when it fails. Look at what happened when people bought several games when the store started. YOu could only buy a game one at a time, and then they got targeted for fraud and so on.
Then they had a roadmap they couldn't keep to and STILL hasn't been fulfiled.

[mad69dogg]

should boycott them no matter what them stealing accounts and letting others hack accounts this company needs stopped. they let 2 of my accounts to be taken by hackers and with all info and emails when first made still says cant give back boycott them

[Katie]

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