Japanese PC game ports are terrible

[zoric1996]

I really don't understand this. Why can't Japanese port their games from console to PC with efforts? It's almost as if they don't have intention to make their games run great on PC.
Here are some examples.
Final Fantasy XIII and its sequel Final Fantasy XIII-2 crashes a lot and essentially broken product.
No More Heroes and its sequel No More Heroes 2 keeps crashing.
Deadly Premonition is a technical mess. The sequel Deadly Premonition 2 is playable, but with zero graphical options and still retains switch controls.
I haven't played other Japanese games, but I'm sure this bad PC ports are also present on many games from Japanese developers. WHAT THE HECK?

[Brian9824]

Not an issue with Japanese developers, its an issue with console developers. Some just suck at porting and always have. Plenty of japanese developers do great ports like NIS, Atlus, etc.

[Crazy Tiger]

You'll find bad apples everywhere, that's on developers and certainly not specific to certain regions. Plenty of Japanese games that gotten ports work rather good on PC.

[nullable]

A lot of times ports are subcontracted out. And there's a budget and time limits. And you know what happens when you do things quick and cheap?

It's a complicated issue regardless. And whether you believe it's a low priority for them, or something they don't allocate enough resources for. Or any number of combinations of things, it's not really a mystery.

[crunchyfrog]

You need to understand the situation more as there's a clear explanation for why this is so.

It has to do with Japan.

In Japan, back in the day of the early times of video games and early computers, they had their own popular devices.

Here in Britain we had the ZX Spectrum and the Atari console and so on. It went to the Amiga and once PCs took hold, it was that or consoles.

In Japan, it was similar - there were their own consoles like the NES and the Sega SG-1000 and so on, and NEC computers (plus the occasional Sharp one). Then MSX. Then NEC mostly again afterwards.

In short, they had their OWN thing going on. But the thing to remember is PCs just weren't big there AT ALL.

When I used to go to Japan, and stay in a hotel if you asked to use the internet suite even up to ten years or so ago, you'd have the rattiest, outdated PCs ever. Despite if you were in a top hotel in Ginza.

It's only been in recent years that PCs are slowly getting traction.

A large part of this reason is simple -language. OSes ain't so easy when you don't have western character sets.

So for this simple reason PC ports were never given the love they should have simply because they think of their home market FIRST.

[my new friend]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wendy4547:

Here are some examples.
Final Fantasy XIII and its sequel Final Fantasy XIII-2 crashes a lot and essentially broken product.

Never had any issues with any of the FF XIII series of games on Steam.

[SLAYER187]

Funny all those games run just fine on my PC! Sounds like a not so great PC! PC ports are just fine and i have no issues with none of them period ,although older and or not so great PC'S will have issues especially if running Nvidia their cards and drivers are just horrible.

[crunchyfrog]

Fair point. Those are not exactly known examples of PC ports being at issue. Quite the opposite from what I've experienced.

There are many though, but they are not good examples.

So it proabbly boils down to something with this guy's PC. I question what troubleshooting he's done.

[Kargor]

I rarely encounter bad ports, actually. I suspect people are usually complaining about ports that don't have ADDITIONAL features on PC,and I've seen reviews complaining about lackluster keyboard/mouse controls.

My general feeling is that, in most cases, you get 100% the same experience as on the Playstation; I don't think that's anything to complain about.

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kargor:

I rarely encounter bad ports, actually. I suspect people are usually complaining about ports that don't have ADDITIONAL features on PC,and I've seen reviews complaining about lackluster keyboard/mouse controls.

My general feeling is that, in most cases, you get 100% the same experience as on the Playstation; I don't think that's anything to complain about.

I havent' checked these days, but at least for a few years I've not seen it as that much of a problem as they seem to have caught up a lot.

But there are examples like Dark Souls that were awful ports. Not just lacking extras but basic resolutions that were anything like normal.


Some of the older Capcom games too can be a bit wonky.

[zoric1996]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από my new friend:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wendy4547:

Here are some examples.
Final Fantasy XIII and its sequel Final Fantasy XIII-2 crashes a lot and essentially broken product.

Never had any issues with any of the FF XIII series of games on Steam.

There's an awful reason FF XIII-2 get "mostly negative" reviews. Maybe you're lucky to run it without problems.

[zoric1996]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από JR APOCALYPSE aka MR E.:

Funny all those games run just fine on my PC! Sounds like a not so great PC! PC ports are just fine and i have no issues with none of them period ,although older and or not so great PC'S will have issues especially if running Nvidia their cards and drivers are just horrible.

Which games do you play that I have mentioned?

[zoric1996]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kargor:

I rarely encounter bad ports, actually. I suspect people are usually complaining about ports that don't have ADDITIONAL features on PC,and I've seen reviews complaining about lackluster keyboard/mouse controls.

My general feeling is that, in most cases, you get 100% the same experience as on the Playstation; I don't think that's anything to complain about.

I havent' checked these days, but at least for a few years I've not seen it as that much of a problem as they seem to have caught up a lot.

But there are examples like Dark Souls that were awful ports. Not just lacking extras but basic resolutions that were anything like normal.


Some of the older Capcom games too can be a bit wonky.

Now that you mention it I just remembered the AWFUL experience with Dark Souls prepare to die edition. That's the quickest refund I've ever had.

[Stutterteturtle]

The worst game is Ninja Gaiden trilogy.
the game won't support keyboard and mouse in PC lol

[SLAYER187]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από wendy4547:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από JR APOCALYPSE aka MR E.:

Funny all those games run just fine on my PC! Sounds like a not so great PC! PC ports are just fine and i have no issues with none of them period ,although older and or not so great PC'S will have issues especially if running Nvidia their cards and drivers are just horrible.

Which games do you play that I have mentioned?

Mostly SHMUPS! Cannot remember them all lol but everything i throw at my ryzen runs just fine.

[isomorphic_projection]

I have no problems with days gone and horizon zero dawn. My pc's hardware is better then that of a ps5. You just tune and tweak until it matches as close as possible.