Nexures Jun 16, 2022 @ 4:58am
steam rarest achievement showcase
In my rarest achievement showcase on my profile, i have nothing but Red orchestra 2 achievements. I recently got an achievement for chivalry 2, that has 0.0% users. how come red orchestra 2 is still filling up my showcase despite being more than 0.0% ? (theyre all at 0.01%)

further more, RO2 has 3 achievements. they are:
Tank Gunnery Bronze
Destroy an enemy tank at 900 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Silver
Destroy an enemy tank at 1200 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Gold
Destroy an enemy tank at 1500 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner


Silver shows up first in the showcase, then gold. how come less people have silver achievement?

is that just steam being inaccurate?
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Lunacy Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:03am 
It based overall obtained % of the achievements you have, so likely a lot of people who have played red orchestra once never got those achievements
0.01% is definitely a very rarely obtained achievement

Just use the regular achievement showcase if you want more custom achievements being shown.
Nexures Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:09am 
doesnt answer my question at all tho. was just curious if someone would have an input on how it works. i wanna know if its a bug
Last edited by Nexures; Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:09am
Fire Angel Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:38am 
Some people may have used an achievement hacker to get the gold one is why.
Nexures Jun 16, 2022 @ 5:59am 
>achievement hacker

lol.


but still, that increases the number then. still doesnt make sense. whos gonna unlock a 1500m shot but not 1200m lol
Arkham99 Jun 16, 2022 @ 6:11am 
I've seen statistics abruptedly change for some games in the past, usually after an update has occurred... I mean them small Steam Updates on older games...:-)
Aachen Jun 16, 2022 @ 7:18am 
You’ll also notice prevalence reported differently in different areas—the percent which you saw may not have been an accurate reflection of what it actual is, currently.
Fire Angel Jun 16, 2022 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Nexures:
but still, that increases the number then. still doesnt make sense. whos gonna unlock a 1500m shot but not 1200m lol

I do that sometimes. There are games I never really played but just wanted an achievement to show on my profile and unlock the one instead of them all.
Nexures Jun 16, 2022 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Supergirl:
Originally posted by Nexures:
but still, that increases the number then. still doesnt make sense. whos gonna unlock a 1500m shot but not 1200m lol

I do that sometimes. There are games I never really played but just wanted an achievement to show on my profile and unlock the one instead of them all.
yeah but it shouldnt show up the way it does. its incorrect lol and impossible
IFIYGD Jun 16, 2022 @ 9:32am 
It culd depend on how the devs set up the achievements- some games are set up so that if there are multiple levels f an achievement (beat the game in Easy, Normal, Hard, Extreme) and you unlock the most difficult, the others will all unlock at the same time. Other games are set up to unlock the levels more specifically- beating the game in Extreme will only unlock that achievement, but not the ones for Easy, Normal and Hard- the devs want you to replay the game in each mode to unlock those achievements. It could be that the triggers for these achievements require the player to hit at those specific distances to unlock each one.

Your best bet is to ask in the game's own forums to see if anyone has tested the achievements to see how they unlock, or looked at game files to see what the achievement unlock triggers are. It could be that the devs did not set the achievements up correctly, and the achievements are broken. And yes, SAM being used to unlock specific achievements and not others can and often does throw off stats on achievements for many games.
Tsubame ⭐ Jun 16, 2022 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Nexures:
Originally posted by Supergirl:

I do that sometimes. There are games I never really played but just wanted an achievement to show on my profile and unlock the one instead of them all.
yeah but it shouldnt show up the way it does. its incorrect lol and impossible

Not with that tool in question.

Is going to be pretty obvious something sketchy did happen so if you do not want people to call you a cheater then I would stay clear of it, or at least make smart use of it.
Last edited by Tsubame ⭐; Jun 16, 2022 @ 4:01pm
Nexures Jun 16, 2022 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by ⭐ Tsubame:
Originally posted by Nexures:
yeah but it shouldnt show up the way it does. its incorrect lol and impossible

Not with that tool in question.

Is going to be pretty obvious something sketchy did happen so if you do not want people to call you a cheater then I would stay clear of it, or at least make smart use of it.
i mean who in their mind would even begin to give a ♥♥♥♥ what others think? lol

it still unfortunately doesn't answer my question. i guess theres no way for us users to know. it looks like its just a bug the way valve calculates achievements, or perhaps a one in a million: equal amount of people have both achievements therefore it just shows whichever pops first
happy Jun 16, 2022 @ 11:41pm 
Its really simple: Your RO2 achievements are rarer than your Chiv2 Achievements, its the same with my Showcase, its full of ZPS achievements, because they have a gainrate of 0.01%, The Chiv2 achievements probably already have more Achievers than your RO2 achievements do.
And no, it doesnt just randomly pick Achievements, it picks the ones you have, which have the least amount of Users that also have that Achievement. Regarding why Silver comes before first, probably the same Amount of Users have gotten both. i know for a fact its not possible to cheat RO2 achievements.
Last edited by happy; Jun 16, 2022 @ 11:44pm
Nexures Jun 17, 2022 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by koRRupted mInd:
Its really simple: Your RO2 achievements are rarer than your Chiv2 Achievements, its the same with my Showcase, its full of ZPS achievements, because they have a gainrate of 0.01%, The Chiv2 achievements probably already have more Achievers than your RO2 achievements do.
And no, it doesnt just randomly pick Achievements, it picks the ones you have, which have the least amount of Users that also have that Achievement. Regarding why Silver comes before first, probably the same Amount of Users have gotten both. i know for a fact its not possible to cheat RO2 achievements.
yeah i know you cant "cheat" them. i tried, (piece of ♥♥♥♥ game, didnt want to play it :P).

it sounds impossible that there are exact amount of people that have both achievements
Punxsutawney Jun 17, 2022 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Nexures:
In my rarest achievement showcase on my profile, i have nothing but Red orchestra 2 achievements. I recently got an achievement for chivalry 2, that has 0.0% users. how come red orchestra 2 is still filling up my showcase despite being more than 0.0% ? (theyre all at 0.01%)

further more, RO2 has 3 achievements. they are:
Tank Gunnery Bronze
Destroy an enemy tank at 900 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Silver
Destroy an enemy tank at 1200 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Gold
Destroy an enemy tank at 1500 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner


Silver shows up first in the showcase, then gold. how come less people have silver achievement?

is that just steam being inaccurate?

From memory, the developer did break this game and many of it's single player achievements (but don't quote me on that, as it's been over 10 years since I played it). The reason Silver has ended up rarer than Gold is because less players have actually achieved it. Yes, it is an absolutely counter-intuitive result, but there is no mistake in regard to which is rarer (i.e. Silver @1200 meters). Also: 0.01% is the lowest possible result that can be displayed on the Rarest Achievement Showcase - not 0.00%

What probably has happened, is those chasing the rarest achievements have probably focused solely on what they thought was the harder, more coveted achievement of the two (i.e. Gold @1500 meters) and then not bothered with Silver. We'll probably never know why, because there's too many people involved, over such a long period of time, but it's probably something like that.

FYI: player's efforts only count towards a game's completion rate stats ONLY AFTER they trigger one or more of the game's achievements. In other words, owning/playing a game without completing any of the game's achievements, means you're not contributing to the overall achievement stats. Also, resetting a game's achievements back to zero DOESN'T UNDO THIS.
Last edited by Punxsutawney; Jun 17, 2022 @ 4:32am
Nexures Jun 17, 2022 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Punxsutawney:
Originally posted by Nexures:
In my rarest achievement showcase on my profile, i have nothing but Red orchestra 2 achievements. I recently got an achievement for chivalry 2, that has 0.0% users. how come red orchestra 2 is still filling up my showcase despite being more than 0.0% ? (theyre all at 0.01%)

further more, RO2 has 3 achievements. they are:
Tank Gunnery Bronze
Destroy an enemy tank at 900 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Silver
Destroy an enemy tank at 1200 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner

Tank Gunnery Gold
Destroy an enemy tank at 1500 meters with your tanks main gun as gunner


Silver shows up first in the showcase, then gold. how come less people have silver achievement?

is that just steam being inaccurate?

From memory, the developer did break this game and many of it's single player achievements (but don't quote me on that, as it's been over 10 years since I played it). The reason Silver has ended up rarer than Gold is because less players have actually achieved it. Yes, it is an absolutely counter-intuitive result, but there is no mistake in regard to which is rarer (i.e. Silver @1200 meters). Also: 0.01% is the lowest possible result that can be displayed on the Rarest Achievement Showcase - not 0.00%

What probably has happened, is those chasing the rarest achievements have probably focused solely on what they thought was the harder, more coveted achievement of the two (i.e. Gold @1500 meters) and then not bothered with Silver. We'll probably never know why, because there's too many people involved, over such a long period of time, but it's probably something like that.

FYI: player's efforts only count towards a game's completion rate stats ONLY AFTER they trigger one or more of the game's achievements. In other words, owning/playing a game without completing any of the game's achievements, means you're not contributing to the overall achievement stats. Also, resetting a game's achievements back to zero DOESN'T UNDO THIS.

you are right about the first point. this shoddy developer has broken a ton of things in the last x years of this game. it could be the reason why some didnt achieve x achievement but achieved Y


Regarding your second point: thats actually not possible in this regard because if you receive 1500m, you automatically receive other 3 :)


sorry i dont understand your third point. if you achieve x achievement that should automatically statistically put you in the group of other people who did. The game overall% definitely triggers once you achieve a single achievement. thats been tested and proven many times :)
Last edited by Nexures; Jun 17, 2022 @ 4:43am
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