Can you sell steam gift games

[Bruh]

Hello!!!
So I was wondering if i could buy some steam gift games and i would sell them with paypal or something else is thi legal??
Have a nice day!

[Spawn of Totoro]

No, it is not.

Going by the SSA, you can not resell steam gifts or items. All you can do is send them as a gift or trade them for other games/items.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

[Bruh]

ow ok thanks

[76561198188152325]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

No, it is not.

Going by the SSA, you can not resell steam gifts or items. All you can do is send them as a gift or trade them for other games/items.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

So the people selling Steam codes on Ebay are breaking the SSA? I did not know that, thanks for the info.

[HLCinSC]

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

No, it is not.

Going by the SSA, you can not resell steam gifts or items. All you can do is send them as a gift or trade them for other games/items.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

So the people selling Steam codes on Ebay are breaking the SSA? I did not know that, thanks for the info.

gifts are different from cd keys.

[76561198188152325]

Originally posted by CharlestONE:

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

So the people selling Steam codes on Ebay are breaking the SSA? I did not know that, thanks for the info.

gifts are different from cd keys.

OK so I'm confused. About a year or so back, I bought Dishonored from a reputable seller on ebay. He required either we become friends or my email or steam id. I gave him one, can't remember which, and he sent me my game no problem. I just assumed he had purchased 4 copies of the game with the intent of selling the others. Was this legal?

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

So the people selling Steam codes on Ebay are breaking the SSA? I did not know that, thanks for the info.

As CharlestONE said, those are a diffrent issue.

A Steam gift is purchased on Steam and in the user's inventory.

A Steam code is purchased at retail. Resale of such codes are subject to the terms of that retailer.

E-Bay it's self may even have a policy on selling digital content. I think, as it is digital and impossible for them to track, they don't even allow the sale of such content. They may have a diffrent idea about physical code, but, again, you will need to check their policy on the matter.

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

OK so I'm confused. About a year or so back, I bought Dishonored from a reputable seller on ebay. He required either we become friends or my email or steam id. I gave him one, can't remember which, and he sent me my game no problem. I just assumed he had purchased 4 copies of the game with the intent of selling the others. Was this legal?

That was him selling a Steam Gift, not a Steam Code.

That was against the SSA, yes.

[HLCinSC]

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

Originally posted by CharlestONE:

gifts are different from cd keys.

OK so I'm confused. About a year or so back, I bought Dishonored from a reputable seller on ebay. He required either we become friends or my email or steam id. I gave him one, can't remember which, and he sent me my game no problem. I just assumed he had purchased 4 copies of the game with the intent of selling the others. Was this legal?

That would be against Steam's policies. I avoid the use of "legality" as that is based on a countries laws.

[76561198188152325]

OK thank you all. Didn't mean to hijack but it seemed related and pertinent.

[R.A.T. Army *MST3K*]

But you can get Steam gifts from other players through Steam for stuff, that's selling. "I give you this if you give me that." "Sold!"

I guess you can't trade directly for wallet money, you would just have to buy another game that the person wanted for tha value they they were willing to accept for the gift they were giveing you. Then "trade" the two gifts.

Just always be careful with Steam stuff not on Steam, there are a lot of scammers out there.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by R.A.T. Army *MST3K*:

But you can get Steam gifts from other players through Steam for stuff, that's selling. "I give you this if you give me that." "Sold!"

The SSA makes exceptions for the trade system, though you can only trade what the system allows.

Trading is diffrent from selling as well. Trading, you are reciving other licenses/subscriptions in return for the same and it is all contained with-in Steam.

Originally posted by R.A.T. Army *MST3K*:

I guess you can't trade directly for wallet money, you would just have to buy another game that the person wanted for tha value they they were willing to accept for the gift they were giveing you. Then "trade" the two gifts.

That is trading out-side the trade system. There is a 30 days restriction on bought games for a reason, it prevents people from trading a game and doing a chargeback for it, there by getting the offered items for free.

Trading out-side the system takes away any protection you would have had as well, so those items would be gone. Trading in-side the trade system, with a game that is tradable (past the 30 days), then Valve would return the items that were traded in that single trade.

[76561198188152325]

Right I think there is a genuine distinction between the exchange of goods vs the exchange of funds.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by .XoD|Sir.Invictus.VII-II:

Right I think there is a genuine distinction between the exchange of goods vs the exchange of funds.

Yep. Trading of goods isn't taxable, trading for money is.

That is why there needs to be that seperation.

[Bruh]

So if I uderstood that right if i buy a game and have it more than 30 days and trade it with somewone is like alowed. But i dont understand that Valve would return the items. Like if you trade the game for money if you can how do you do it??? And if you trade the game for something like a tradin card (or more) what would Valve do??????

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Ak_Blaze87:

So if I uderstood that right if i buy a game and have it more than 30 days and trade it with somewone is like alowed.

Yes, as long as it is done with-in the trade system, as that is the only allowed method.

Originally posted by Ak_Blaze87:

But i dont understand that Valve would return the items.

That is if one is scammed and the other user does a chargeback (buy bank/card complay). Since the game was fraudulently obtained, the one who traded for the game would get the items they traded back.

Originally posted by Ak_Blaze87:

Like if you trade the game for money if you can how do you do it???

You can not. Trades are only form other games, in-game items or coupons. Basicaly only what you can put into the trade window when making a Steam trade.

Originally posted by Ak_Blaze87:

And if you trade the game for something like a tradin card (or more) what would Valve do??????

About what? If you are trading the game for a trading card, with in the Steam trade system, then nothing can/will be done as that is allowed in the trade system and they are both Steam items.

If it is a physical trading card (such as Pokemon) then that is trading out-side the trade system and you will get no assistance if anything goes wrong, not to mention against the SSA.

[Bruh]

Ok i get it now. But if he/she that i am trading with that i scam him/her or someone else and she/he wants a chargeback and gets the eg. Cards back will i or the scamer get the game back