Should mods in the Workshop be tied in with paid Mods?

[xBCxRangers]

In some of the various Workshops, i'm seeing a ton of mods that can only be used by paid mods on peoples sites.

Personally, i was for having paid mods in the Workshop. But being many did not, it did not happen.

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one, bar certain users from using it being it van only be used by a paid mod. And two, use the Workshop as a way to advertise their paid mods?

Sincere question.

[RPG Gamer Man]

No. This should not be allowed on steam. It is fine if they do it on other sites, but they should not be using steam as a advertising platform for their paid mods.

[HikariLight]

You can advertise your paid mods on your profile.
People use the workshop for free mods and I doubt the want paid mods shoved in their faces.

[J4MESOX4D]

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one

Now? This has been going on for 12 years. If people want to create paid mods and are permitted to do so then there is nothing stopping them for creating, or having workshop content produced which may require, or be for the paid mod specifically.

[xBCxRangers]

Escrito originalmente por J4MESOX4D:

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one

Now? This has been going on for 12 years. If people want to create paid mods and are permitted to do so then there is nothing stopping them for creating, or having workshop content produced which may require, or be for the paid mod specifically.

Hm, well i wasn't using them for 12 years, so pardon me on that. But it seems if i want people to buy my paid Mod, i can put it on my website, and use the Workshop as a way to advertise my paid mod.

An example would be 'Rangers Peterbilt 389 Exhaust", and put it in the Workshop, with links where you can buy my paid mod, to access the addtition i have in the Workshop.

Or a free mod i had that i no longer support, and make it paid "Rangers WW2 mod" and have a D Day Map, that can only be accessed thru main mod on the link provided..

They can also apparently buy me a coffee lol.

My view is if the main mod cannot be accessed other than my private site, i should not be providing additions to my paid mod, as well as advertising it on the Workshop.

[HikariLight]

Steam will not allow paid mods on the workshop.
Not will the allow you to advertise them via the workshop.
They don't even allow people to advertise mods from the Nexus.

[J4MESOX4D]

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Escrito originalmente por J4MESOX4D:

Now? This has been going on for 12 years. If people want to create paid mods and are permitted to do so then there is nothing stopping them for creating, or having workshop content produced which may require, or be for the paid mod specifically.

Hm, well i wasn't using them for 12 years, so pardon me on that. But it seems if i want people to buy my paid Mod, i can put it on my website, and use the Workshop as a way to advertise my paid mod.

An example would be 'Rangers Peterbilt 389 Exhaust", and put it in the Workshop, with links where you can buy my paid mod, to access the addtition i have in the Workshop.

Or a free mod i had that i no longer support, and make it paid "Rangers WW2 mod" and have a D Day Map, that can only be accessed thru main mod on the link provided..

They can also apparently buy me a coffee lol.

My view is if the main mod cannot be accessed other than my private site, i should not be providing additions to my paid mod, as well as advertising it on the Workshop.

99% of the mods that require an external paid mods aren't really being advertised. They are a means of easy access whereby users who have created their own external mods, paid or not, have a quick way of injecting extra content without having to manually faff around with separate files which the end-users has to at best, inject. It's easy for everyone.

I've probably seen more advertising on non-paid mods looking for donations anyway. Until Valve decide to tighten up on this then it will continue. They would have to block non-official external content and then also weed out everyone looking for donations. That would be way too much and could alienate legitimate modders.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Escrito originalmente por HikariLight:

You can advertise your paid mods on your profile.
People use the workshop for free mods and I doubt the want paid mods shoved in their faces.

That is better if they advertise on their personal profiles on steam. I have seen this done before. Better off doing that method than putting on the workshop or on the forums advertising it.

[Komarimaru]

As long as said mod on the workshop isn't paid for, dependencies don't matter.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Ya, because that went over so well the first time they tried it. It lasted what? A few days as I recall.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Should mods in the Workshop be tied in with paid Mods

In some of the various Workshops, i'm seeing a ton of mods that can only be used by paid mods on peoples sites.

Personally, i was for having paid mods in the Workshop. But being many did not, it did not happen.

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one, bar certain users from using it being it van only be used by a paid mod. And two, use the Workshop as a way to advertise their paid mods?

Sincere question.

This? https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Didn't go as planned...

https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/208632365253244218

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-removed-paid-mods-functionality-from-steam-workshop/

[Coffee]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Should mods in the Workshop be tied in with paid Mods

In some of the various Workshops, i'm seeing a ton of mods that can only be used by paid mods on peoples sites.

Personally, i was for having paid mods in the Workshop. But being many did not, it did not happen.

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one, bar certain users from using it being it van only be used by a paid mod. And two, use the Workshop as a way to advertise their paid mods?

Sincere question.

This? https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Didn't go as planned...

https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/208632365253244218

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-removed-paid-mods-functionality-from-steam-workshop/

:nkCool:

that was back in 2015

Bethesda put in paid mods for their game recently and no one really cares anymore.

Skyrim has the DLSS mod that is paid walled if want to use ENB with it, no one cares barely

Sims 4 has tons of paid mods

Flight Simulator has ton of paid mods (2024 is new so I think mods have to develop for that)

Minecraft has paid mods these days

I mean list goes on

Back in 2015 people cared more to fight it, now they (mostly) understand its up to the mod author if they want to get paid or work for free.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por Coffee:

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

This? https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Didn't go as planned...

https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/208632365253244218

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-removed-paid-mods-functionality-from-steam-workshop/

that was back in 2015

Bethesda put in paid mods for their game recently and no one really cares anymore.

Skyrim has the DLSS mod that is paid walled if want to use ENB with it, no one cares barely

Sims 4 has tons of paid mods

Flight Simulator has ton of paid mods (2024 is new so I think mods have to develop for that)

Minecraft has paid mods these days

I mean list goes on

Back in 2015 people cared more to fight it, now they (mostly) understand its up to the mod author if they want to get paid or work for free.

Whelp, not here.

You are free to put your mods behind a paywall on any site that hosts mods.

[Coffee]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por Coffee:

that was back in 2015

Bethesda put in paid mods for their game recently and no one really cares anymore.

Skyrim has the DLSS mod that is paid walled if want to use ENB with it, no one cares barely

Sims 4 has tons of paid mods

Flight Simulator has ton of paid mods (2024 is new so I think mods have to develop for that)

Minecraft has paid mods these days

I mean list goes on

Back in 2015 people cared more to fight it, now they (mostly) understand its up to the mod author if they want to get paid or work for free.

Whelp, not here.

You are free to put your mods behind a paywall on any site that hosts mods.

:nkCool:

I don't have any mods, but I don't mind supporting those who do. (edited it a bit, was kinda a weird post after this sorry)

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por Coffee:

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Whelp, not here.

You are free to put your mods behind a paywall on any site that hosts mods.

I don't have any mods, but I don't mind supporting those who do. Maybe where you live its legal and maybe it will be again with bozo becoming president, but slavery is illegal in the US (at least it is now till the next guy) and WORKING with no income is slavery

It's called passion projects, hobbies and not the whatever you're on.

[xBCxRangers]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Should mods in the Workshop be tied in with paid Mods

In some of the various Workshops, i'm seeing a ton of mods that can only be used by paid mods on peoples sites.

Personally, i was for having paid mods in the Workshop. But being many did not, it did not happen.

And so why are they now using the Workshop as a way to one, bar certain users from using it being it van only be used by a paid mod. And two, use the Workshop as a way to advertise their paid mods?

Sincere question.

This? https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/aboutpaidcontent

Didn't go as planned...

https://steamcommunity.com/games/SteamWorkshop/announcements/detail/208632365253244218

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-removed-paid-mods-functionality-from-steam-workshop/

:nkCool:

Right, we know that. But it seems they're doing the second best thing, in having "additions' to those paid mods in the Workshop, and advertising their main mods, to those extensions.