Steam want´s to rip swiss people now

[Ibuprofen]

Since yesterday steam has switched the currency for Switzerland to it´s own. But they seem to have a dysfunction in math. Because Fallout 4 now costs 68€ for Swiss people and 59.99€ for the people living in the Euroregion? Didn´t they hear about the drop that the euro has going through? This is stupid as ♥♥♥♥ and I refuse to pay 8 more euro´s for a game that is cheaper everywhere, but not in Switzerland. You are just encouraging Keystores and other unwanted things with this. Thank you guys, for this stupid gift.

[Black Blade]

引用自 Loopan：

So as a swissguy thats it then!

I wont buy any steam game anymore...it was fun while it last but I'm not willing to pay 15% more for a game just over night!

valve you can *piep* my *piep* I'm buying elsewhere from this very second on.....it's a pitty though cause it was a convenient way to play games......

wog.ch I'm back again....

Good way to protest
Only take a look all around some games may be priced better by you, some will not

So or so if you keep buying the game any were you will support the publisher that set that price.. so good luck with that

[.jonviL ✈]

I han scho de steamsupport agschribe das goht jo gar nöd liebeer wider zu euro wechsle als so en scheiss zha!!

The ♥♥♥♥ is even for csgo keys i mean 1 Key= 2.19€ = 2.37 CHF --> PRICE IS: 2.55 CHF
like wtf?

or there is a game wich is 17.99€ that would be 20CHF ---> PRICE IS 22.90 CHF????

It seems like wog should make himself ready for the float of ppl if steam cant fix that

[malatonik]

引用自 schuubars：

引用自 malatonik：

GTA V is 59.99 CHF, so it's more than 10% less.

Only if you count the german version which is 65.- but the regular uk import(which many stores have on stock.) Is 59.90.-
Fallout 4 is just a black sheep in that regard of course.

I was comparing it to the old steam Euro price. Because of the 1:1 coversion rate the game is now "cheaper".

But your right, Fallout 4 is just a black sheep. Because it's so popular right now everyone is using it as a price benchmark and it's distorting the results.

Because I use Paysafe (that has horrible conversion rates) In some cases I might actually profit from the switch to CHF.

[.jonviL ✈]

I agree there are some games like H1Z1 where we actually save some money but thats very rare! On the otherside there is that what i mentioned up there where he have to pay 2-10€ more and i belive that this is not fair @ all!

Im mostly worried about the price about a csgo key and they really have to fix that!

[Start_Running]

The more specific your region the more spcific the economics the publishers will take in to account when pricings.

[LEOdf]

You cheapskate. You can't even buy a koffee for that in Switzerland. A swiss wouldn't even bend down to pick up €60 lying in the street. Steam prices are set according to income/wealth of each region. You're lucky they've increased it only 14% for you. If it were up to me I would have made your prices at least double.

[Start_Running]

引用自 LEOdf：

You cheapskate. You can't even buy a koffee for that in Switzerland. A swiss wouldn't even bend down to pick up €60 lying in the street. Steam prices are set according to income/wealth of each region. You're lucky they've increased it only 14% for you. If it were up to me I would have made your prices at least double.

You kind of hit the point in a round about way. The price of a commodity will always be as much as the seller can charge without alienating a signifacant percentage of the market.

In some reasons this will be higher than others. In a wealthy region, the price will always be a little higher as opposed to a poorer region. When your market is grouped in with other regions your pricing more or less reflects them counting the regions poorer than you along with you so they adjust the price accordingly.

Also quiote honestly, it's also a nasty trick to drive the sales of local retailers by basically making steam more expensive.. Think about it. You buy 1 copy, A retailer will order a 100 copies and if they all sell they will order a hundred more. BY always ensuring the digital price matches or is just a bit higher than the local store price the publisher actually generates more sales.

[cheavyIZspy]

Switzerland has a population of about 8 million people, a good 10% of those are endangered by poverty http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/900-000-menschen-sind-betroffen-armut-in-der-reichen-schweiz-id1721939.html

so yeah.

引用自 LEOdf：

You cheapskate. You can't even buy a koffee for that in Switzerland. A swiss wouldn't even bend down to pick up €60 lying in the street. Steam prices are set according to income/wealth of each region. You're lucky they've increased it only 14% for you. If it were up to me I would have made your prices at least double.

Most people I know would pick up 10 bucks, even 5, even 1.

[Angrymarten]

引用自 cheavyIZspy：

Switzerland has a population of about 8 million people, a good 10% of those are endangered by poverty http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/900-000-menschen-sind-betroffen-armut-in-der-reichen-schweiz-id1721939.html

so yeah.

引用自 LEOdf：

You cheapskate. You can't even buy a koffee for that in Switzerland. A swiss wouldn't even bend down to pick up €60 lying in the street. Steam prices are set according to income/wealth of each region. You're lucky they've increased it only 14% for you. If it were up to me I would have made your prices at least double.

Most people I know would pick up 10 bucks, even 5, even 1.

Aye, I would! "Wer den Rappen nicht ehrt, ist des Frankens nicht wert."

I will, as many others, look for alternatives. This is just common sense...

[Black Blade]

引用自 Start_Running：

Also quiote honestly, it's also a nasty trick to drive the sales of local retailers by basically making steam more expensive.. Think about it. You buy 1 copy, A retailer will order a 100 copies and if they all sell they will order a hundred more. BY always ensuring the digital price matches or is just a bit higher than the local store price the publisher actually generates more sales.

I do not think retailer is better for the publisher then Steam
Even if we ignore the price if a CD a
Box.. sending it, replacing faulty copys
With all that the store also takes a cut
When on Steam you have Valve cut... and... that is abut it
(Rating prices is in both so I did not include it)

[Ratchet&Clank]

I don't understand why you start to cry now, it was never equal even when you paid in € before the exchange from $ to € was always equal on steam without any proper reason, the steam arguement is that there are taxes so it's valid to charge 60€ for a 60$(this info is outdated this is how it was 2 years ago but I guess it didn't change and probably never will change) game even though it's not equal I guess they don't want to waste money on recalculating everytime the currency changes.

Addition: If I recall right someone said before it's not steam that decides the price it's the developer themself so if you want fair prices calculated for the currency you use you need to cry at all the companys that produce games.

[Start_Running]

引用自 Black Blade：

引用自 Start_Running：

Also quiote honestly, it's also a nasty trick to drive the sales of local retailers by basically making steam more expensive.. Think about it. You buy 1 copy, A retailer will order a 100 copies and if they all sell they will order a hundred more. BY always ensuring the digital price matches or is just a bit higher than the local store price the publisher actually generates more sales.

I do not think retailer is better for the publisher then Steam
Even if we ignore the price if a CD a
Box.. sending it, replacing faulty copys
With all that the store also takes a cut
When on Steam you have Valve cut... and... that is abut it
(Rating prices is in both so I did not include it)

You need to remember the difference between steam and retailers. It costs more yes but at the same time here's the thing When a retailer sells a copy of cod to you. You are not EA's customer. You are the retailers customer. The retailer who bought a case of 50 copies is EA's customer and they are frequently repeat customers.

EA has already made their profit when the retailer buys from them. So there's no cut involved. The retailer is the one that must now try to sell it in such a way as to maximize the margin of profit.. Buy low sell high and all that.

Remember the cost per packaged game is much lower than what you pay for it. . Here's a hint. Most retailers can slash as much as 50% off the price of a game and still break even as in they will lose no more money than what they spent acquiring it.

[Black Blade]

引用自 Start_Running：

You need to remember the difference between steam and retailers. It costs more yes but at the same time here's the thing When a retailer sells a copy of cod to you. You are not EA's customer. You are the retailers customer. The retailer who bought a case of 50 copies is EA's customer and they are frequently repeat customers.

EA has already made their profit when the retailer buys from them. So there's no cut involved. The retailer is the one that must now try to sell it in such a way as to maximize the margin of profit.. Buy low sell high and all that.

Remember the cost per packaged game is much lower than what you pay for it. . Here's a hint. Most retailers can slash as much as 50% off the price of a game and still break even as in they will lose no more money than what they spent acquiring it.

I am preety sure I once heard that if a game dose not sell well on retailer then it can be returned and refunded by the publisher
And yes they will have maybe more cash in hand now but how much you lose for it..
Is that making it more with for them then on Steam that also have some loyal customers?

[Mayru]

lol

[Start_Running]

引用自 Black Blade：

I am preety sure I once heard that if a game dose not sell well on retailer then it can be returned and refunded by the publisher

It can depending on the distribution contract. But there are of course caveats and limitations on time. It's generally not considered a refund as it is a promise to buy back any unsold copies for a given amount within a specific time frame. Think about it. DO you think bargain bins would be a thing if it was an unconditional buyback?

And yes they will have maybe more cash in hand now but how much you lose for it..
Is that making it more with for them then on Steam that also have some loyal customers?

They can always tweak the steam price later as they desre. see how that oworks. Steam is hiked intially to make the more profitable avenues look more attractive to the consumer. Then when those avenues dry up they drop the price on steam, if they so choose.

Again it depends on how it works out. Just remember, a non-sale doesn't cost STeam any money. If you don't buy they don't have any transaction to process which means they incur no costs.