No flash sales because all games have Flash Sale Price...

[Xylber]

I'm amazed to see how many people is complaining about "No flash sales". And I don't know if are or

Let's see:

Chivalry Medieval Warfare: https://steamdb.info/app/219640/
Best historic price: -90% during flash sale on June.
Right now: -90%

Grand Theft Auto V: https://steamdb.info/app/271590/
Best historic price: -40% during flash sale on December and -40% during spring sale.
Right now: -40%

Rocket League: https://steamdb.info/app/252950/
Best historic price: -30% during spring sale.
Right now: -30%

Even Counter Strike which is always 25% off, but 50% during flash sales, is right now 50% off. Same for Bioshock Triple Pack.

Check any game you want, and you will see that almost all (all I have checked so far) have right now the best historic price, matching the flash sale price they had (if they were on flash sale).

I repeat:

All games (that I have checked) have right now the best historic price.

But some people seems to be saying "give me more expensive prices during the whole sale, and some few flash sales prices to make me feel happy"... Humanity.


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And shifting topic, I'm always a critic of steam sales, last year were those useless gems with epople trading his items for more gems that got bugged... chaos.

This year Valve made it extremely simple: All is at best price, no flash sales, no gems, no mini games, no nothing. Come here, get the game you want and best price during 12 days, and done. Simple, easy.

[Purple Tentacle]

grand theft auto and rocket league have never been in a flash sale so making comparisons with them is missleading. counter strike has been half of its current sale price in the past so that example is even worse. chivarly and bioshock however your correct about. but when your not even right about half the examples you give alarm bells should be ringing about your argument

[ KARR™]

Sanctum 2 - 75% off... lowest recorded 85%

Deadfall Adventures - 75% off... lowest recorded 90%

Back to the Future the Game - last years flash sale 80%.. currently 75% off

Empire Total War... 75% off... lowest recorded 90%

Antichamber... 75% off... lowest recorded 90%

Mirrors Edge 75% off... lowest recorded 80%

Rise of Venice 75% off... lowest recorded 85%

The swapper 60% off... lowest recorded 80% off

Ghostbusters 50% off... it WAS 80% on the last sale

Even Counter Strike which is always 25% off, but 50% during flash sales, is right now 50% off.

Counter Strike : GO is currently 50% off... last years flash sale it was 82% off.


Plants vs Zombies on the front page is the same 50% as the last sale, but has been 78% off since then!

Natural Selection II - again on the front page at 50% off.... last sale NORMAL price was 75% off.. the flash sale was 85% off.

A LOT of games have found a 'middle ground'. Not the full flash sale discount, but maybe higher than the regular sale price.

And just to make things more difficult, 'daily deals' still happen - they're just unannounced and at the whim of the publisher!



Just Cause 2 .. was 75% on day 1 of the sale. Day 2 its 85% off

South Park .. not on sale at the start, now 75% off... and this only lasts for TWO more days

Rocksmith not on sale at the start and is on sale ONLY for 3 more days

Rainbow 6 was discounted four hours ago and is on sale for ONLY 4 more days

[Xylber]

Originally posted by K.A.R.R.:

Sanctum 2 - 75% off... lowest recorded 85%

Deadfall Adventures - 75% off... lowest recorded 90%

Which website are you using? https://steamdb.info shows the last year and some of the games of your list have the best price right now if we take into account this last year (Empire Total War and Deadfall Adventures)


PD: You are right, my mistake.

[ KARR™]

Originally posted by Xylber:

Which website are you using? https://steamdb.info shows the last year and some of the games of your list have the best price right now if we take into account this last year (Empire Total War and Deadfall Adventures)

Yes, taken from their sale page.

Along with additions such as :

Natural Selection II - again on the front page at 50% off.... last sale NORMAL price was 75% off.. the flash sale was 85% off.

deadfall adventures was 90% off September at $3.99 - currently 75% at $4.99
https://steamdb.info/app/231330/

[Xylber]

Originally posted by K.A.R.R.:

Originally posted by Xylber:

Which website are you using? https://steamdb.info shows the last year and some of the games of your list have the best price right now if we take into account this last year (Empire Total War and Deadfall Adventures)

Yes, taken from their sale page.

Along with additions such as :

Natural Selection II - again on the front page at 50% off.... last sale NORMAL price was 75% off.. the flash sale was 85% off.

deadfall adventures was 90% off September at $3.99 - currently 75% at $4.99
https://steamdb.info/app/231330/

Thanks. Natural Selection 2 was $25 as base price, and now it's base price is $10. It was cheaper anyway because at 85% off it was $3.75

But yeah, you are right, not all games have their best price right now.

[ChrisLeeNeal]

I'm grateful for the low prices, don't get me wrong...

...but there's absolutely NO point to keep checking into Steam every day this year. Part of the fun and allure was the mystery of what the daily deals were going to be.

Making it clear that the prices are not going to get any lower this time eliminates those and the eager anticipation that has always made me love checking in every day during the sale. Now I can just visit one day during the whole sale and buy what I want, knowing I won't be missing anything special I didn't already see.

Just...disappointing, somewhat.

[SDCYCLES]

There's plenty of other places you can buy steam keys, legit locations with many many years operating. All year round they are equal if not better than steam sale prices. So all year round game X is £40 on steam and £30 in the sales, yet that same game is normally £20 else where.

Valve allows the developers to dictate everything, rrp, sale prices, how long the game can be on sale for, everything.

[Hazmat Pat]

Everybody knows that the discounts could be 95% off across the board and y'all would still be pooping your pants and throwing a tantrum that they're not cheaper and don't give free stuff.

I don't like to throw around the word entitled, but y'all are acting damn entitled thinking that the developers and publishers OWE you discounts that are exactly the same as historical lows. Historical lows on other sites or by error.

[Unconditional Love]

In winter sale last year csgo was $2.50 know your info

[sonderkraftfahrzeug]

Wrong:

Assassins Creed iii is now 10$ and used to be 5$ last sale.
Assassins Creed IV isnt on sale at all this year.
Sherlock Holmes: crimes and punishment is now 15 and used to be 10.

There are many other examples' just check steamprices or steamdb sites. People are complaining because games on their wishlist actually INCREASED in price.

[tmwfte]

Originally posted by sonderkraftfahrzeug:

There are many other examples' just check steamprices or steamdb sites. People are complaining because games on their wishlist actually INCREASED in price.

Wrong. They haven't increased in price, they just aren't discounted as much as they have been in the past.

I have to ask: when you go to the grocer, do you yell at the cashiers that the bread that was on sale for $1.99 last week is on sale for $2.29 this week?

[sonderkraftfahrzeug]

Most people who were saving to purchase a game had an expectation of similar or better sales compared to last year. The grocer analogy is wrong because those are perishable products that have to remade anew and farmer costs increase over time. In this case (ac 3) you have the same code that was sold for 5 before on every sale during flash deals for years and now jumped to 10. The SALE price increased, which is the topic of this conversation. No one is talking about base price which is all over the place (30 on ubis site and 20 on steam).

Originally posted by tmwfte:

Originally posted by sonderkraftfahrzeug:

There are many other examples' just check steamprices or steamdb sites. People are complaining because games on their wishlist actually INCREASED in price.

Wrong. They haven't increased in price, they just aren't discounted as much as they have been in the past.

I have to ask: when you go to the grocer, do you yell at the cashiers that the bread that was on sale for $1.99 last week is on sale for $2.29 this week?

[AV ON]

Steam sales used to be so straight forward for me. If a game was not on a daily deal or flash sale I wouldn't buy until the last day . . .now its very hard to gauge steam sales and the sweeping discounts are not as deep as previous years :(

[Red Shift]

We forced refunds on Steam.
Anyone who didnt believe that there would be repucussions was very naive.

[Coyote30]

Originally posted by K.A.R.R.:

And just to make things more difficult, 'daily deals' still happen - they're just unannounced and at the whim of the publisher!

THIS

It's one of the biggest problems of the new format as it completely undermines Valve's argument that prices remain constant over the duration of the sale. That's just not true and a lot of "special deals" are still happening, but hidden somewhere in the swamp of the sale whereas previously daily or flash deals at least pointed you to the games where prices had changed.