Reddit Awards Have to Go

[zzz]

Steam awards normalize bullying. It's all just appeals to emotions, I'm not necessary talking about the logical fallacy itself.

They promote ragebaiting, echo chamber perspectives and making fun of people just because they have different, often unpopular opinions. They make people with different opinions excluded, and make the most awarded things look like "the truth".

The majority of people are bad, inconsiderate actors, and there's no way around this. Isn't controversial. Take a look around, but please, don't forget good, genuine people exist too. It's not justifiable to be bad because loud people are, it's just coping. So don't be, don't make others like that. Literally how it works. We have enough evil, trust me.

Way too many people just make up lies and try to trigger others in Game Reviews, they do it to bait others so they gift them jesters. Others who write (most of the time it's copypaste) "wholesome" made up (99.99% fake) stories just exploit gullible people, and compassionate/kind people. Just take a look at literally any popular game on Steam.

Oh boy, discussions. Forums. Do I even need to talk about these? lol

What kind of place do Steam developers want? Before they added awards (in 2020-2021?) and what we have now are, like, completely different universes. Yes, trolls always exist, but why did Steam developers decide to encourage those people? Valve employees aren't stupid, so why? They want this, only care about money?

Anyway, I suggest they remove Reddit awards. At the very least for Forums/Game Reviews. Let Game Developers control whether people can gift awards on their forums or not.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The amount of engagement went through the roof. I think they're going to keep them.

[godzilliac]

Reddit needs to go. Period.

[lonelycore]

Opprinnelig skrevet av 76561198083019420:

steam should also remove these discussion forums

+1

[zzz]

Opprinnelig skrevet av godzilliac:

Reddit needs to go. Period.

So what you're suggesting is that we need to remove Steam as well?

[zzz]

Opprinnelig skrevet av wetto:

Opprinnelig skrevet av 76561198083019420:

steam should also remove these discussion forums

+1

No, just remove Reddit awards, now it's 100x times better. Bring community mods back but choose them actually carefully. AI is clearly lacking, and will always be bad.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Opprinnelig skrevet av zzz:

Opprinnelig skrevet av wetto:

+1

No, just remove Reddit awards, now it's 100x times better. Bring community mods back but choose them actually carefully. AI is clearly lacking, and will always be bad.

The latter ship has sailed and isn't returning.

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

Steam is just a microcosm of the society wide and internet wide problem of people creating platforms that then become enormously influential and disruptive to both markets and psychosocial dynamics, before then refusing to take anything but the most hands-off, milquetoast of stances when it comes to responsibility for those impacts and how other people use them.

Until/unless they decide to actually care about robust moderation and take an actual stance - which they have no incentive to do because the market, business models, user behavior, and algorithms all reward anything goes, false equivalency, middleground fallacy driven obliviousness - this is now the reality of internet discourse and engagement. And too few will care about the consequences because everyone is making money hand over fist, and most users see it as just a meta game.

[zzz]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Aikido:

Steam is just a microcosm of the society wide and internet wide problem of people creating platforms that then become enormously influential and disruptive to both markets and psychosocial dynamics, before then refusing to take anything but the most hands-off, milquetoast of stances when it comes to responsibility for those impacts and how other people use them.

Until/unless they decide to actually care about robust moderation and take an actual stance - which they have no incentive to do because the market, business models, user behavior, and algorithms all reward anything goes, false equivalency, middleground fallacy driven obliviousness - this is now the reality of internet discourse and engagement. And too few will care about the consequences because everyone is making money hand over fist, and most users see it as just a meta game.

Let's make out together. Because we need to understand what is bad, what is neutral, what is good, what is 17th century neither, and what is spectrum.

[zzz]

Opprinnelig skrevet av cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Opprinnelig skrevet av zzz:

No, just remove Reddit awards, now it's 100x times better. Bring community mods back but choose them actually carefully. AI is clearly lacking, and will always be bad.

The latter ship has sailed and isn't returning.

:winterbunny2023:

It seems like it, but I'm no prophet.

[Knee]

Seems more of a moderation issue than an awards specific one.

[Soren]

Steam forums are also archaic and have next to no good tools for moderation or running your forum properly. For that reason, many developers hate the steam forums and would prefer to use their own communities forums off site. It's why many steam forums are abandoned and used minimally or not all by the developers/publishers.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

I may not agree with everything as presented, but overall I do agree that the awards in general have done more harm than good. That's not to say I see it happening, but one can always hope.

[zzz]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Knee:

Seems more of a moderation issue than an awards specific one.

Awards increase the scale of moderation issues.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Soren:

Steam forums are also archaic and have next to no good tools for moderation or running your forum properly. For that reason, many developers hate the steam forums and would prefer to use their own communities forums off site. It's why many steam forums are abandoned and used minimally or not all by the developers/publishers.

Can you explain in details?

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sleepy Yoshi:

I may not agree with everything as presented, but overall I do agree that the awards in general have done more harm than good. That's not to say I see it happening, but one can always hope.

I'm curious with what you disagree.

[Xhoas]

Awards are fun, don't remove them.

[Cray]

Opprinnelig skrevet av zzz:

Opprinnelig skrevet av godzilliac:

Reddit needs to go. Period.

So what you're suggesting is that we need to remove Steam as well?

Actually a tempting prospect now that they've gone full steam ahead with the idea of making it the worst application in history. Bug ridden, insecure, unreliable, memory hogging, flickering, render failing bundle of random assemblies barely held toegether with gum and tape.