Steam on Xbox

[Citizen Cook]

The internet is buzzing over Phil Spencer’s latest comments to Polygon with many speculating that he’s alluding to the idea of opening up the Xbox consoles to allow other storefronts like Steam to work on the currently closed platform.

I think this would be great. We see developers targeting Steam Deck and the benefits of developing for a fixed platform, the same benefits would obviously apply to Xbox.
But how would Microsoft monetise this?

Personally, I’m clambering for a Steam console and this would be the next best thing.

Thoughts?

https://www.polygon.com/24108670/xbox-epic-games-store-phil-spencer-interview

[Komarimaru]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

Komarimaru の投稿を引用：

Ya already know the answer, imagination.

Well here's one vid i was watching. Just go 16 minutes in. Very exciting stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1dAsOcO8M

Nothing in that video supports your imaginative statement.

[Boblin the Goblin]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

SlowMango の投稿を引用：

This is exactly why studies show how easy it is to manipulate people who are less internet savvy than others.

LOL, why are you always the spoiled sport? Accept PRO-gressive thinking. The future is looking great as far as gaming.

Your 'theory' isn't progressive. As explained previously.

But I guess only being allowed to play games based on a subscription model to where they can be removed from you at any time is only good if Microsoft does it.

[Citizen Cook]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

Citizen Cook の投稿を引用：

There is no way Microsoft is buying Valve. Gabe said sometime ago that he already has a yacht, he doesn’t need another one. He values his independence.
I have heard though, that Gabe only owns 25% of Valve.

Right, looking at where this seems to be going, is not that MS is going to buy Steam, but that their next machine in 2028, is likely going to be a Console/ PC hybrid.

Like those Steam Machines of the past, where you'll get the Xbox OS, and then Win 11 and access to Steam, as you did then.

I always knew given MS bonafides with Windows they would go in that direction, and so more or less a "partnership" with Steam, in access too it thru their machine, rather than buying them, which does make more sense.

At least that's what Xbox Streamers are saying.

Personally, i'd be stoked of that idea, and given the experience i've had with an Alienware with their machine years ago (that i sent back), can be a great idea, given the kinks worked out since then with controller support and the rest.

Great things coming in the future.

I heard they have a handheld coming in 2026

[xChill_Pandax]

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

eram の投稿を引用：

either way you cant just copy and paste something from 1 to the other, it would need some actual work to become playable.

Yep, even if it becomes a thing you still have to convine developers to actually develop and make the games. I mean if a developer wanted a console port of their game they already could have made one. So having "steam" on xbox wouldn't make your Steam games playable on xbox, it would let Steam sell console versions of games on xbox, something developers could already do if they wanted to via well xbox.

It would be easier for Xbox to force update Xbox with a windows 11 based update.

[Brian9824]

Chyl Panda の投稿を引用：

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Yep, even if it becomes a thing you still have to convine developers to actually develop and make the games. I mean if a developer wanted a console port of their game they already could have made one. So having "steam" on xbox wouldn't make your Steam games playable on xbox, it would let Steam sell console versions of games on xbox, something developers could already do if they wanted to via well xbox.

It would be easier for Xbox to force update Xbox with a windows 11 based update.

It would be just as easy with any OS, its just a few lines of code to check versions and force update, its not hard.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Chyl Panda の投稿を引用：

It would be easier for Xbox to force update Xbox with a windows 11 based update.

To get a Steam app (Steam Client) on the home screen, boot it up to see your Steam profile, open up that library and start whatever game you want. I'm so down for that.

Would be super helpful to play games my laptop can't run. I'd be running them on the Xbox Series X!

[Brian9824]

I find it interesting that so far everyone has ignored this

Now, the notion of subsidizing a console — and forcing players to purchase games through the official storefront to help recoup costs — might not make sense.

So expect console prices that take this approach to probably double in price if not more. Hence why its been said you'd basically be buying a PC and installing a custom OS on it like Steam OS.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

So expect console prices that take this approach to probably double in price if not more.

If they can't give me Steam on my current Xbox, I won't bother. I mean, this is the last console I'm planning to keep. I don't care for anymore future consoles. I will be focusing on getting a more powerful laptop and eventually, an actual decent gaming PC.

PC beats consoles hands down. You can play every game on PC, you can't on console. Now consoles want to bring that performance (60FPS and 4-8K blah blah) but they promised that current gen. Most games are 30FPS/Locked and we barely get games with 60FPS (sacrifice visual for performance...)

They are struggling on stuff the PC has been able to do for a good while and now, even more. Consoles are trying to catch up and that = prices going up to PC prices (with Sony's PS5 Pro cash grab, xbox going up to $600+ for extra space?)

[Brian9824]

ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ の投稿を引用：

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

So expect console prices that take this approach to probably double in price if not more.

If they can't give me Steam on my current Xbox, I won't bother. I mean, this is the last console I'm planning to keep. I don't care for anymore future consoles. I will be focusing on getting a more powerful laptop and eventually, an actual decent gaming PC.

PC beats consoles hands down. You can play every game on PC, you can't on console. Now consoles want to bring that performance (60FPS and 4-8K blah blah) but they promised that current gen. Most games are 30FPS/Locked and we barely get games with 60FPS.

They are struggling on stuff the PC has been able to do for a good while and now, even more. Consoles are trying to catch up and that = prices going up to PC prices.

Yeah don't expect it on the current console, this is something they have been talking about for their NEXT console. It will be more like a PC with a custom OS as one of their ideas.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Yeah don't expect it on the current console, this is something they have been talking about for their NEXT console. It will be more like a PC with a custom OS as one of their ideas.

Then, I'm good lol. I'll leave the Xbox for games I can't rock at the moment and Xbox exclusives (lol yeah, good one) but besides that, I'll stick to PC gaming. Best option out there + Steam Deck, if you want to take your Steam games on the go.

Which, I am sure they will probably upgrade and make a Steam Deck 2 or so for more power and this/that.

[Brian9824]

ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ の投稿を引用：

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Yeah don't expect it on the current console, this is something they have been talking about for their NEXT console. It will be more like a PC with a custom OS as one of their ideas.

Then, I'm good lol. I'll leave the Xbox for games I can't rock at the moment and Xbox exclusives (lol yeah, good one) but besides that, I'll stick to PC gaming. Best option out there + Steam Deck, if you want to take your Steam games on the go.

Which, I am sure they will probably upgrade and make a Steam Deck 2 or so for more power and this/that.

I mean personally i'm sticking to PC + Switch for portable and family gaming with kids. Consoles are getting less and less exclusives so PC all the way.

[ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ]

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

I mean personally i'm sticking to PC + Switch for portable and family gaming with kids. Consoles are getting less and less exclusives so PC all the way.

Switch isn't bad either, especially since Nintendo is stingy as hell with their IPs while they have Xbox/Sony/PC games lol. Only place to play Zelda/Mario well, while not using an Emulator, I guess.

Every (almost) Xbox/Sony exclusive is coming to PC lol. It's like Sony/Xbox/PC Trinity. PC being the main winner having everything while the consoles trying to be buddy buddy with it. Well, not Nintendo.

[crunchyfrog]

ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ の投稿を引用：

Brian9824 の投稿を引用：

I mean personally i'm sticking to PC + Switch for portable and family gaming with kids. Consoles are getting less and less exclusives so PC all the way.

Switch isn't bad either, especially since Nintendo is stingy as hell with their IPs while they have Xbox/Sony/PC games lol. Only place to play Zelda/Mario well, while not using an Emulator, I guess.

Every (almost) Xbox/Sony exclusive is coming to PC lol. It's like Sony/Xbox/PC Trinity. PC being the main winner having everything while the consoles trying to be buddy buddy with it. Well, not Nintendo.

You're not wrong.

I believe the major reason why we're seeing more console exclusives come across to PC is because of the increasingly stupid situation that triple A studios create. The costs have been ballooning for years now, for no good reason. Because of that they've become ever more risk averse, which is why we get banal middle of the road samey crap. Not much chance of weirder or riskier IPS such as what we used to see on the PS2.

So, they need to get as many sales as they can so covering these on PC or other platforms is something they can't ignore.

But the big problem for them is that they're ever rendering their platforms irrelevant.

I personally have really enjoyed Son'y s time in consoles. I used to write for some magazines. But the PS3 they made some silly mistakes for which they eventually corrected, and then now with the PS5 they're making those same mistakes again.

It always amazes me how companies like this never seem to truly learn from their mistakes.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

Citizen Cook の投稿を引用：

eram の投稿を引用：

console games would have to be ported to pc, they already do that and you can buy some of them on steam. you cant just add xbox games to steam and expect them to work on your pc.

Doesn’t the Xbox already run a lightweight version of Windows beneath a closed UI?
Couldn’t Microsoft create a series of apps (Steam/Epic/Ubisoft etc…) that access Windows directly?

one would think hopefully they will do so

[crunchyfrog]

Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD} の投稿を引用：

Citizen Cook の投稿を引用：

Doesn’t the Xbox already run a lightweight version of Windows beneath a closed UI?
Couldn’t Microsoft create a series of apps (Steam/Epic/Ubisoft etc…) that access Windows directly?

one would think hopefully they will do so

They could do a lot of things, but I wouldn't put much hope in MS, as they've always been one of those large companies that seems incapable of communicating properly between departments.

Take the original Xbox. It was an online console and it was well loved for the fact it offered a decent framework for online gaming, but you had to access things like the Arcade and such through a disc. People often asked MS at that time for a browser to be included. After all MS HAS all that ready to go and even the Dreamcast ran a reasonable browser.

Come the 360, that was far more fluid with a nice dashboard that enabled you to just connect to the shop and arcade straight up. Yet still people asked for the browser. Weirdly it never came. There were various excuses and rumours like they were frightened of exploits, which may or may not be valid. But still they were perhaps the best placed in the world to do this and yet didn't.